• http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003152026637 Alex Huszagh

    I wouldn’t exactly agree with your statement that they are a second tier girl group. They had star power and Lovey Dovey was a smash hit in the beginning of the year, and they commanded considerable star power. Yes, they are definitely second to SNSD, 2NE1, and likely Sistar, but other than those, they were still among the top groups in Korea. Funky Town was the peak of popularity, they had many endorsement deals and chart toppers domestically, and Lovey Dovey was one of the top songs of the year.

  • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

    I don’t think T-ara has the talent to back up the scandal. The reason Block B and Big Bang have continued to have success after their scandals is because they had talent that netizens can’t seem to refute. (Also, in Big Bang’s case they were popular enough and in Block B’s case they made sincere efforts to explain themselves and apologize.) But the impression Netizenbuzz has given me is that T-ara is still completely hated in S. Korea. Completely. 

    I have a feeling Hwayoung might have a future in the industry, but I don’t think she’s as talented as Jay Park, so we’ll see. :/

    But T-ara wasn’t a second tier girl group. They were the third or fourth most popular girl group (after SNSD, 2NE1, and SISTAR after “Alone”).

    • SB_Mark

      Not that I’m trying to nitpick, but top tier to me is those acts that come back once a year or so and get all kills and number ones by putting out basically anything. Wonder Girls, anybody? Sistar and T-ara are definitely approaching that plain, but the controversy might have derailed T-ara temporarily (or permanently, who knows?).

    • SB_Mark

      Not that I’m trying to nitpick, but top tier to me is those acts that come back once a year or so and get all kills and number ones by putting out basically anything. Wonder Girls, anybody? Sistar and T-ara are definitely approaching that plain, but the controversy might have derailed T-ara temporarily (or permanently, who knows?).

      • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

        Well the controversy has definitely permanently derailed T-ara at this point, if you ask me, but before the scandal their digital sales were consistently on par with or better than other girl groups.

        We have a different definition of top tier though. 

        • hapacalgirl

          Nothing is permanent in kpop. To say they are derailed permanently is a bit rash. They are still selling well and who knows what will happen over time. I have seen many solos and even groups bounce back from worse. Hell look at Baek Ji Young and Ivy , both had significant scandals , Baek Ji Young had a sex tape scandal for goodness sakes, and she is now the queen of ballads. What T-ara needs to ltake a hiatus and give the public some time to cool down. Also while I am not a fangirl or anything, they have a lot more talent then you give them credit for and a lot of their B sides are really good, a lot better than any of their title tracks.

          If the worst does happen though and they never succeed in the long run, a couple of them will have acting to fall back on. Eunjung definitely can go back to acting if the idol life doesn’t work.

          • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

            I’m a huge fan of T-ara’s music; I think they have some of the best music in Kpop. But I also think that they’re inconsistent singers at best, and I really don’t see how you could deny that based on their MR Removed videos. 

            And I’ll stand by what I say, because Baek Ji Young and Ivy really are much better singers and performers. I think 2PM really is a better comparison, taking into consideration popularity prior to their scandals and their level of skill. 2PM after the scandal has done alright, but they just haven’t been able to match the height of their popularity when Jay Park was in the group.

            So maybe T-ara can make a comeback. But I don’t think they’ll come anywhere close to their former glory. 

          • Black_Plague

            Baek Ji Young and Ivy however went on hiatus for a couple of years – while I do fully agree T-ara needs to take an extensive hiatus (or just stay out of Korea), the central problem is that CCM won’t even let them take as much as a month’s worth of a break, not to mention they’re seen as ‘lazy’ and replaceable on a whim in the eyes of that crazy whacko in charge. 

    • animefreakhq

      T-ara is most definitely the Second-tier girl group. If first is SNSD, 2NE1, then T-ara is in with Kara, SISTAR, SECRET, F(x) 

      • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

        But T-ara was far more popular than Secret and f(x) and Sistar before they came out with “Alone”. :/

        • animefreakhq

          Popularity changes, so there isn’t a fixed position. 

          • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

            Then how can you argue T-ara was “most definitely” a second-tier group? 

          • animefreakhq

            This year, their album sold extremely well and their singles won multiple awards.

      • WonderfulZingMin

        i don’t know if this has to do with what you said 100% but the current fancafes ranking is:
        1. SNSD 270,0002. IU 140,0003. Wonder Girls 90,000 4. 2NE1 90,0005. f(x) 60,0006. KARA 50,0007. A Pink 40,000 
        I don’t see T-ara

        • animefreakhq

          Fancafes isn’t a reliable source. Most of them don’t buy the albums so it’s hard to use those numbers as sales.

        • Janee’

          Something crazy happened w/their fancafe a few years ago so there’s really no telling 

    • hapacalgirl

      Even though Hwayoung came out of this the cleanest and with all the sympathy, I don’t think she will have much of a future in the music industry simply because while likable and somewhat talented, she doesn’t have the abilities to go solo and with her T-ara past no company will risk putting her in a group. If she can act, there is a possibilty she can stay on the entertainment industry via acting, but at the moment noone knows if she can even act.

      The ironic thing is regardless of what happens to T-ara as a group, the people that I see being the ones who will stay in the entertainment industry are actually the three that took the most criticism : Eunjung/Jiyeon/ and Hyomin. Eunjung and Jiyeon have acting futures regardless of the fate of T-ara. Hyomin has the vocals to go solo, the experience to go variety, or if she works more, she can go acting.

      • WonderfulZingMin

        Hwayoung already entered a famous well known acting company. Moon Chae won and son ye jin became her label mates <3 I thought seoulbeats will mention it. didn't they know?

    • Demizzletodo

       Sistar is still mid tier just  because they had a great year  does not make them a top tier  they still have a long way to go they have to be consistent they’re maybe on the same level f(x) and Miss A. but you could say they’re at least relevant

  • animefreakhq

    Jay Park did not resign from JYPE. He was forcefully kicked out of 2pm.

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      Unless you believe the rumors… :P

    • http://twitter.com/Uranium222 Uranium

      Let’s go to the facts and not what fans believe. On record, Jay Park left the group on his own.

      • animefreakhq

        His contract was terminated. That is basically kicking out an artist.

        • SB_Mark

          For the record, there was no mention that Jay Park “willingly withdrew.” The line “We’ve seen this before - group members who were either forced out or willingly withdrew” implies an either/or for Jay Park’s case, and the “willingly withdrew” part can also be viewed as a foreshadowing to HyunA’s situation which is mentioned later on. Just wanted to clarify.

          Interesting thread, please continue!

    • Streby

      In retrospect, it seems like he was totally out of place in 2PM, I mean he just isn’t a group player and many people perform better alone, and he is definitely doing better without them like they are without him. 

      • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

        I would definitely argue that 2PM is a lot worse off without Jay Park. 

        • Streby

          Well I think there were too many of them and though 2PM isn’t exactly a supernova of talent their music got a lot better after Jay left. Its probably a coincidence but whatever it is, I like their music after he left over their music when he was around, sans ’10 out of 10′ and some stuff like that. 

          • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

            Ah. I guess I’m partial to “Again and Again”. :P

          • Streby

            Its that awesome moment when you recognize Jaeboem’s voice in the song and realize he used to be in 2PM. 

  • http://twitter.com/Uranium222 Uranium

    I don’t think T-ara will ever get back to where they were. Yes, Block B rebounded really well. But their issue isn’t really as controversial as T-ara. Also, T-ara and the company’s image is so ruined that they lost the respect not just fans but also by people in the entertainment world. With the addition of that pre-teen, I will assure you that T-ara will implode. 

    They just don’t have the raw talent to impress people again.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3A5VXTZXZOEH62VXL4FJ7AT7Q Xinran

      I think Block B’s case was a bigger issue at least at the start because they screwed up overseas and apparently ‘tainted’ Hallyu’s (or Korea’s) reputation. They incurred the wrath of netizens in both countries and stirred up quite a bit of nationalistic emotions, which is never a good thing. T-ara’s case is at least more of a local issue; but what made it more controversial later on was the fact that most of what really happened has still not been disclosed, which spawned a lot more rumors. They also didn’t go to great lengths to appease netizens and KKS of course just makes things even worse.

      • hapacalgirl

        What also didn’t help T-ara was that their scandal was right after the suicide of a bullied korean student made international news (I remember reading about it both on cnn and bbc).. We know how sensitive Korea is about their image and being embarrassed internationally, so to have a well known problem make such news everywhere made bullying in general such a hot issue at the time. Had the T-ara scandal happened any other time, it wouldnt have been as bad.

      • http://twitter.com/Uranium222 Uranium

        I don’t think the Block B incident is that bad. They were able to rebound. And what they have now is much more than what they have before the scandal. T-ara on the other hand is on their way out. Consistently declining. You can actually tell it from the lack of attention they are getting on the yearly shows. Considering Lovey Dovey was such a hit. With the addition of that pre-teen, you can bet T-ara would go south even more.

        • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

          I didn’t pay attention to the Block B thing when it was happening, but I knew there was a lot of media frenzy about it. A few months after the fact, I started to read about it, and was honestly completely shocked that people made such a fuss about the incident. I didn’t see what the big deal was, tbh. :/

        • FreakyFlyBri

          The Block B incident was horrible, don’t kid yourself. The members received suicide petitions, death threats, and one member even had to be hospitalized due to a psychotic episode brought about by the stress of the scandal. The only reason you heard more about the T-ara scandal was because T-ara, as a whole, are a much more popular and notorious group than Block B.

          Seriously, this talk of “T-ara is on their way out” is asinine, considering that they’re still doing much better than several top-tier acts in Korea right now. All this tells me is that you’re only paying attention to their status in Korea, which yes, is very tarnished right now, but you haven’t looked at how they’ve fared in Japan, or in any of the other countries they’ve had showcases in the last several months.

          Too long; didn’t read: Do your homework before making silly assumptions.

      • Black_Plague

        Additionally, T-ara and CCM had gotten some negative press time to time before as well – even before the scandal, there was the alleged Jiyeon strip cam which pretty much put a huge dent on her popularity and was resurfaced again months ago, Boram’s supposedly ‘depressing’ tweet, members collapsing from exhaustion and being overworked to the bone and most importantly, KKS  publicly calling the members ‘lazy’ and announcement of two unnecessary members, one of them a pre-teen. 

        5dolls bully scandal probably also did a contribution in people doubting CCM even more before T-ara followed a similar fate. 

        Block B on the other hand, remained pretty clean before their controversy became a wildfire and their CEO Cho PD is far more respectable (and an actual music producer) than KKS in comparison. Despite being younger, the guy seems to know how to actually manage the group i.e. not treating them like cashcow slaves up to the point they end up in hospital or with serious health issues.

    • Streby

      Being insensitive to people suffering from floods and crises is a lot more serious than bullying. I’m not saying bullying should be taken lightly but Block B was representing their nation and when you act like they did, it definitely won’t be taken casually. 

      • http://twitter.com/Uranium222 Uranium

        Insensitivity is not as bad as destroying someone’s dream. Did Block B made the floods in Thailand? No. Hwayoung’s case was so much severe. She was kicked out from the group she worked hard to get into and she was bad mouthed on her way out. 

        • Streby

          I get where you’re coming from and this can be argued to death but I still feel that you can’t behave like they did in front of a whole nation ravaged by floods and death, yes, Block B didn’t cause them but that does not make it okay for them to behave like they did. They were representing the whole of SK when they made that comment and though that would not really have a large physical effect on the nation, it does change the general public’s perception of the whole nation.

          I am not saying that what happened to Hwayoung is right in any way but in every situation both parties contribute in some way or the other and I am sure she was bullied and kicked out but whatever ‘proof’ we have is very shady. But I must say that irrespective of whatever happened behind closed doors, she has handled it much braver than I would probably be able to handle the situation and put herself in a higher position even by not dissing her ex company, making her vulnerable to being called ungrateful and leaving gracefully and without a fuss. I doubt her dream is destroyed, disheveled  maybe, but she hasn’t revealed plans about dropping out of the industry. 

          • http://twitter.com/Uranium222 Uranium

            I think you have something against Block B. Anywhere you look at it, the T-ara thing was more disgusting. And the fact that T-ara lost a lot i that controversy means the controversy is more pivotal to their careers.

            Block B came back stronger than they ever did. T-ara lost all glimpse of hope in getting their popularity back.

          • Streby

            I love Block B, in fact, heck I even spend money on them. Its just that I’m able to look at what they did and say I felt it was wrong without it affecting my love for them (especially Zico and Kyung!). 

            You’re right about how the controversies were handled, T-ara really lost out while Block B made it an opportunity to grow. 

    • FreakyFlyBri

      Nah, T-ara will be fine. This sounds more like wishful thinking on your part than anything else.

      • http://twitter.com/Uranium222 Uranium

        Your word against mine then. 

  • goldengluvsk2

    if I back up my opinion on the comments people post about T-ara online, we might get the idea that theyre hated by every single k.netizen but since k.netizens seem to hate everyone  especially girl groups -and they even have what I like to call “closeted fans”.. those who in reality like the group, buy their singles but for some strange reason bash them- then i’ll only back up my comment in sales… they did incredibly well with sexy love… and if they did well when they were in the middle of their biggest “scandal” then they can only do better. of course there might be the obnoxious reporter that would write about the scandal again in the future but i think they can recover. I wish hwayoung find her way to return to the industry… no matter how..!

    Even when Block B and Big Bang are my biases, the fact that theyre male groups easily make fans to forget quicker about their so called scandals… besides, people bashing them can say whatever they want but they cant say they arent talented… in big bang’s case with their overseas concerts articles and awards, haters dont even have the courage to go bash them. and in Block B’s case when their new album did well and Zico’s mixtape tracks were well received… even when they dont compose their own songs and stuff like that like the groups mentioned earlier, I think T-ara can shut their mouths since they release catchy tunes everytime.

  • goldengluvsk2

    if I back up my opinion on the comments people post about T-ara online, we might get the idea that theyre hated by every single k.netizen but since k.netizens seem to hate everyone  especially girl groups -and they even have what I like to call “closeted fans”.. those who in reality like the group, buy their singles but for some strange reason bash them- then i’ll only back up my comment in sales… they did incredibly well with sexy love… and if they did well when they were in the middle of their biggest “scandal” then they can only do better. of course there might be the obnoxious reporter that would write about the scandal again in the future but i think they can recover. I wish hwayoung find her way to return to the industry… no matter how..!

    Even when Block B and Big Bang are my biases, the fact that theyre male groups easily make fans to forget quicker about their so called scandals… besides, people bashing them can say whatever they want but they cant say they arent talented… in big bang’s case with their overseas concerts articles and awards, haters dont even have the courage to go bash them. and in Block B’s case when their new album did well and Zico’s mixtape tracks were well received… even when they dont compose their own songs and stuff like that like the groups mentioned earlier, I think T-ara can shut their mouths since they release catchy tunes everytime.

  • muggle87

    ccm needs to take this old saying to heart, out of sight, out of mind.

    stop trying to rush t-ara return and focus on their other acts. if t-ara stay low long enough then the public might forget or no longer have intense feelings about the scandal.

    but as long they keep appearing then their scandal will be consistently on the public mind.

  • Streby

    I think CCM’s policy must be ‘some attention is better than none’, he seems to do all these things hoping to gain the sympathy of the public towards the existing T-ara girls and hoping people will support them and buy their stuff on this pity.

  • Daniel Wang

    they should just boot out KKS and find another guy who can actually run a company

  • infernolevel8

    Well, I think it’s a shame for T-ara.

     I, for one, really like their songs. Despite what other people say, T-ara does have a fair amount of talent that their songs don’t show. But there’s no denying that starting from day 1 this group has worked hard. I don’t want to see their hard work trivialized by angry netizens in the face of some bullying rumor that was never confirmed…

    • Black_Plague

      Yea. Relying too much on Shinsadong :/ Granted, his stuff for T-ara is catchy and all but they all sound like chipmunks and you can barely hear them in most live performances (added that they’re also probably too tired)

  • http://dvqd92.tumblr.com/ Elizabeth

    great article Mark :)

  • http://twitter.com/catEYEx3 Clairi

    T-ara performed on last night’s Gayo Daejun (and might perform on others, I don’t really look at performer lists), are doing pretty good in Japan (they had a Christmas event there & a lot of fans showed up), and Sexy Love didn’t do horribly. They’re not the most stable group but some of them are really talented and they still have fans left. . .I think they have a future. If they continue focusing on Japan I think there future would be even better. *shrugs* That’s just my opinion though.

  • starsinourdreams

    >>Most importantly, history has shown that if a group is popular enough,
    has an established track record, and a strong fan backing, it will rise
    from controversy stronger than ever. 

    Wouldn’t KARA be a stronger example?

  • Guest

    Hwayoung goal is to be an actress now i believe.

  • Black_Plague

    Ah yes, I was wondering when Seoulbeats would cover on this. 

    The way I see it, T-ara as a group would be better off staying in Japan for the time being while their rather negative image in Korea can slowly – and by that, very slowly – calm down. I still have my doubts whether if that would actually work but it’s a lot more preferable than having to make public statements in Korea or hit the headlines on a weekly, hell, or even monthly basis. 

    Had it not been for that recent stupid move of CCM claiming they rejected an alcohol CF for image reasons, T-ara wouldn’t have gotten boiled over by netizens again and see their image tarnished the second time. But as usual, T-ara gets the bulk of the shitstorm compared to that retardation of a CEO of theirs who’s the real nutter that needs to be blackmailed from the industry itself. Actually, send him to North Korea for all I care. Kim Jong Un would love to have him. 

    Honestly, I think this may be it for CCM. With SPEED’s comeback (as well as Co-Ed’s early next year), it actually seems more like a sign of desperation on CCM’s part to stay afloat as Co-Ed as a whole has gone through many member changes and been inactive for so long that most people probably won’t even care, not to mention sub-unit 5dolls was known for bullying too, only that it was more clear-cut and black-and-white. Korea is still the main income source for CCM and financial-wise, from looking at this year, with T-ara’s DBD promotions cut horridly short, loss of advertisement deals and Sexy Love not selling too well as previous material, that is a massive loss and I don’t think promotions in Japan and elsewhere are going to be able to provide a long-term solution, even if it’s safer for them to stay away from Korea as the bitterness cools down. One controversy is bad enough but to get in another one only 5 months after? Not good at all. 

    Popularity-wise in Japan, they’re also overshadowed by bigger rivals such as Kara and SNSD. The way I see it, CCM’s making T-ara do comebacks despite the negative attitude because of money shortages – and maybe even attempting to delay the inevitable of collapsing. With a meglamaniac like KKS, he’d do anything to deny such a scenario from happening no matter how much mud is thrown at T-ara, while saving his own self in the process. Truly disgusting. 

    Regarding Hwayoung, although I’m skeptical of her going for acting, it is good to see that she’s managed to get back up on her feet and show that she’s ready for a second try in the showbizz (even though I think it’d be best she live a normal life). Though on one thing, generally, Koreans seem to look up to actors/actresses very highly compared to idols so that may be something for Hwayoung’s road to trying out for acting, not to mention she has significant public sympathy. 

    Hopefully butthurt KKS won’t try to interfere with Hwayoung’s new decision. 

    Lastly, Dani needs to stay the hell out of T-ara and I’d bet that her parents are probably full of regret every passing day. If I was a parent whose kid was to be put in an idol group that’s probably the most hated in the country, I’d do everything to get him/her out ASAP. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

    Predictions:

    1) Hwayoung comes back and has some success. Most likely not explosive, but somehow she manages to bleed a little out of the wound CCM created and use it to her advantage.

    2) T-ara comes back and has some success. (The rest same as above).

    3) Kim Kwang Soo gets punched right in the balls and sheds crocodile tears like a 3-year-old in Target.

    That last one isn’t precisely a prediction — more of a wistful hope. 

  • kpopalypse

    T-ara will be fine.  The performace of Sexy Love chart/popularity wise shows that netizens like to talk loud on the Internet but it doesn’t have much impact in real terms, and most fans have by now seen the bullying controversy for what it really is – a highly-inflated netizen beat-up.  (Especially after the only person claiming to have an eye-witness account of any such thing was recently arrested and charged with defamation.)  In 2013 T-ara will release a comeback, promote overseas a lot and gain some surprising high-profile new endorsements.  Financially they will have no problems.  Popularity wise they may not ever recover completely in the eyes of the general public in Korea (not that they even honestly took much of a hit – for all the hate comments they get, the latest Gallup poll released only a few days ago shows them as #7 most popular music stars in Korea) but they have a strong enough existing fanbase for it not to matter, and international sales will more than cover the shortfall, especially in Japan where their popularity is only growing.  The only thing that truly threatens the group is that some of the members’ contracts expire in 2013 and they may not renew.  This is probably the real reason why KKS brought in new members.  So T-ara may change (again) but it’s unlikely to disband.  If T-ara persist (and they will – after all, it’s not like they have a choice) they will be fine.

    KKS will continue to do his thing, much to the displeasure of just about everybody.  Remember that CCM is a subsidiary, which means that he has a boss, too.  If his boss wasn’t happy with his performance, he’d be gone by now.  Put that in the context of the entire scandal and think about what that means for a moment.  Love him or hate him, KKS isn’t going anywhere.

    Hwayoung has a lot of stock in terms of netizen popularity, but as we’ve seen, netizen opinion actually means almost nothing (most of T-ara’s negative fallout with losing endorsements etc was because companies scared by the media storm thought netizen opinion MIGHT be important, not because it actually WAS).  Where she may be a lot less popular is within the industry itself.  If KKS’ allegations of her acting up behind the scenes are true (and even with his poor track record of honesty, they’re still a lot more believable than anything netizens came up with during this whole mess), then she may now have a black mark against her name as someone difficult to work with.  That can be utterly fatal in the music industry, and it may be the real reason for her diversifying into acting.  I hope that she does well and finds her niche.

  • kpopalypse

    T-ara will be fine.  The performace of Sexy Love chart/popularity wise shows that netizens like to talk loud on the Internet but it doesn’t have much impact in real terms, and most fans have by now seen the bullying controversy for what it really is – a highly-inflated netizen beat-up.  (Especially after the only person claiming to have an eye-witness account of any such thing was recently arrested and charged with defamation.)  In 2013 T-ara will release a comeback, promote overseas a lot and gain some surprising high-profile new endorsements.  Financially they will have no problems.  Popularity wise they may not ever recover completely in the eyes of the general public in Korea (not that they even honestly took much of a hit – for all the hate comments they get, the latest Gallup poll released only a few days ago shows them as #7 most popular music stars in Korea) but they have a strong enough existing fanbase for it not to matter, and international sales will more than cover the shortfall, especially in Japan where their popularity is only growing.  The only thing that truly threatens the group is that some of the members’ contracts expire in 2013 and they may not renew.  This is probably the real reason why KKS brought in new members.  So T-ara may change (again) but it’s unlikely to disband.  If T-ara persist (and they will – after all, it’s not like they have a choice) they will be fine.

    KKS will continue to do his thing, much to the displeasure of just about everybody.  Remember that CCM is a subsidiary, which means that he has a boss, too.  If his boss wasn’t happy with his performance, he’d be gone by now.  Put that in the context of the entire scandal and think about what that means for a moment.  Love him or hate him, KKS isn’t going anywhere.

    Hwayoung has a lot of stock in terms of netizen popularity, but as we’ve seen, netizen opinion actually means almost nothing (most of T-ara’s negative fallout with losing endorsements etc was because companies scared by the media storm thought netizen opinion MIGHT be important, not because it actually WAS).  Where she may be a lot less popular is within the industry itself.  If KKS’ allegations of her acting up behind the scenes are true (and even with his poor track record of honesty, they’re still a lot more believable than anything netizens came up with during this whole mess), then she may now have a black mark against her name as someone difficult to work with.  That can be utterly fatal in the music industry, and it may be the real reason for her diversifying into acting.  I hope that she does well and finds her niche.

  • takasar1

    KKS is very smart. he is an effective, intelligent and ruthless ceo, who could easily be removed if his superior wished it (CCM is a subsidiary). the man’s usage of the media was insanely clever (or at least i believe so), due to the fact that prior to his major ‘blunders’, t-ara were taking the vast majority of the criticism, whilst afterwards, he personally was blamed far more than they were. he effectively created a character for himself that could help to alleviate blame from the t-ara members. the fact that he was not sacked must mean that this could very well be an ingenious form of strategic thinking on ccm’s behalf.

    in addition to this, who is saying that hwayoung is completely faultless? everyone loves an underdog and are much more willing to believe her side of the story because of that fact, yet if she did indeed cause a major ruckus backstage then i can see the reason why she was removed. i dont think she ever grew close to the other members, especially since tara is a group where there are two distinct internal ‘groups’ (hyomin, jiyeon, eunjung and soyeon, boram, qri).

    if people are upset because tara is being overworked, then do something about it. all this over-the-internet moaning is not going to do anything besides waste time. i am quite sure that almost everyone who makes the argument that kks is mistreating tara will continue to pay interest to the group. the korean entertainment industry is primarily concerned with making money and they manipulate pretty little girls and boys to help them achieve this aim. if the ‘pretty little girls and boys’ have a problem with this then the answer is simple, leave.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lucaswoodstock Lucas Oliveira Dantas

    i really hope hwayoung comes back successfully. it was a pity this all happened right when she was beginning to finally shine as a rapper in t-ara: her turns on “day by day”, “don’t leave” and “holiday” – all from the day by day mini – were more than wonderful and it showed of relevancy of her stay on the group.

    but everything happens for a reason and during “sexy love” promotions ahreum seemed to be taking her own place in t-ara just fine, by being the best frozen-eyed sexy doll after hyomin. she still has a lot to prove, but whoever actually cared about t-ara as a girl group saw the potential.

    i mostly agree with the article’s author and some commenters about ccm/kks’s behaviour towards the whole controversy; in the end, most of the shame is still on the netizens overexagerated reactions on the whole scandal.

    bullying is a very high profile topic nowadays, of course that media will be milking a cow until it starts splashing blood all over.

    there are also a lot of other issues about how the media chooses to cover or turn into “big news”. i mean, the whole 2PM’s nichkhun DIU thing was far more controversial and dangerous than netizens made up proofs on t-ara bullying hwayoung – still the latter received more converage than a REAL misdeed by an idol. why? was the media trying to “protect” jyp/nichkhun by mostly fueling the whole t-ara controversy?

    plus, what would give more hits and access to a k-pop media outlet: a DIU scandal that could easily be resolved by PR damage control and fade into the time run of police investigations and crap; or a self-feeding netizen espontaneous crusade against a misinterpreted girl group on the rise?

    i know it sounds too conspirational, but hey, i’m a journalist and media student and history’s proved that one should not underestimate the media’s power of molding reality to whatever interests it may have.

    another interesting thing is that, even though t-ara has gained HUGE popularity during 2011 it’s still far from being a high profile all-kill status group from the likes of snsd. so, despite t-ara love is still on full development especially around foreign k-poppers in korea they’re image is not as strong as it seems by netizen/internet media fed reality.

    so, was t-ara image tarnished with the scandal? yes, but instead of destroyed i think they only got slowed down on their path to stardom and cultural relevancy. they are very hardworking young women, very talented and have a better consistent discography and song catalog if you compare to some contemporary and same-level groups [say f(x) or girl's day for instance].

  • FreakyFlyBri

    I think he thought you were actually saying that T-ara was a third or fourth TIER group. Just a misunderstanding.

    Before the scandal, T-ara was arguably a top-tier group that many thought could have feasibly usurped 2NE1′s place behind SNSD. Then KKS announced the crazy lineup additions, Sistar blew up, the Hwayoung controversy happened, and T-ara took a nosedive on those “Top Girl Group” charts.

    At this point I’m not sure it’s possible for T-ara’s popularity to be objectively defined. Netizens are too subjective nowadays when it comes to T-ara to fairly rank them (not that it was ever a truly objective list to begin with). 

  • Demizzletodo

    T-ara will be  just fine. their fanbase is steadily coming back up They are still doing better than a lot of girl groups out there. even with the worst scandal they still  ranked at  #7 most popular act in korea  in Gallup poll .  netizens may say what they want but t-ara ain’t going anywhere