• tingfang_k

    Why is there a picture of a member of EXO in this post o.O If it’s park kyung it sure doesn’t look like him…

    • nuunuu

      It is Kyung. It’s not an EXO member.

    • anonymous

      I bet you thought it as Chanyeol lol…but I recognized it to be Kyung

  • http://twitter.com/JenLuvsJen Jen

    If they’ve been treated like that, they are better off in another company.  I am pretty sure there would be many companies interested cause we all know Block B is very talented, and they have a huge advantage on other groups cause they can compose their own music.  Fighting!

  • KrisMyStar

    I hope another company will be willing to take them in as a group. It would be extremely sad if they have to disband because of their company’s irresponsibile actions.

  • Streby

    Its just sad to see so much politics coming in the way of talented individuals making good music. 

    • RiceCrispy

      Its not politics its the industry period its cold no matter where as you can see alot of stuff like this happenes to stars especially when you dont do your research its really angering but most companys are all.after money off of you. If your popular enough they would promote you and put all the other artists on the back burner. Its really everyman for himself and it doesnt have to be that.

      • Streby

        The whole industry may be politics but it is after all what drives people I suppose. Wherever there is stardom (get the pun?) and money, there is bound to be people who think they deserve more, people who actually deserve more and those who just dont keep up their commitments.

        • RiceCrispy

          TRU TRU…BUT THAT DONT MAKE IT RIGHT.

  • kpopfan6

    Well, this is truly a big mess. Block B is too talented to be facing all these problems :(

    And I think Stardom is just ridiculous. Block B has the most potential for making the company very successful, but still Stardom had the nerve to mistreat them for so long. If they lose Block B (which they deserve to, tbqh) then they have no one to blame but themselves. No group should have to take this kind of nonsense from any company.

    I wish Block B all the best, and I hope any other idols in situations like these seek justice too.

  • muggle87

    hopefully this lawsuit isn’t as long as jyj lawsuit…. and they don’t get block if they sign up with a new company and promote as a group.

    • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

       I think they will have an easier time of it than JYJ though. Stardom has a lot less power than SM.

      • http://twitter.com/jenn__aay Jenny

        Agreed. If they can’t even stop allkpop from publishing a story about Hwayoung/Zico “dating”, they certainly can’t do anything to Block B.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3A5VXTZXZOEH62VXL4FJ7AT7Q Xinran

         And they don’t have anyone else to leech money from; if block b leaves, the company will fold.

  • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

    Not paying employees seems to be a huge problem in South Korea. I see a lot of this in Kpop and with actors/actresses.

    I applaud Block B for standing up for their rights. It certainly makes me respect them more.

  • http://twitter.com/jenn__aay Jenny

    A lot of BBCs believed that Stardom was a great company and that they had created a family environment where artists could learn and enhance their musicality. This was a huge slap in the face to the fans. And to know that they’ve been treated like this for so long yet they always have a smile on their face? Wow. What makes it worse is that they always joked about how poor they were (not being able to pay their cellphone bill, only have $7 in their pocket, and not even having $100 in their bank account), yet fans never thought anything of it because they thought Block B were just being trolls. Turns out they were just leaving hints. I hope Block B wins the lawsuit and that another label is willing to take all 7 of them. They’re too talented to have to disband because of their idiotic company.

    • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

       Makes you wonder what other bands are being mistreated as well? They hide it so well it’s hard to tell.

      • http://twitter.com/jenn__aay Jenny

        I’m pretty sure there are other bands that have been mistreated (see Nine Muses’ documentary), even soloists. Did you see the article about E.via? Her company screwed her over. Didn’t pay her for 2 years, then ‘automatically extended’ her contract when she tried to leave. It’s such bullshit.

        • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

           I didn’t hear about E.via or Nine Muses. I did read recently than Park Jungmin (SS501) sued and left his company for not getting paid. Even Kevin of U-Kiss sued and left his original entertainment company over contract issues. One of these days someone should count up the number of successful artists that sued and/or left their entertainment companies. You’d think those companies would take a hint and stop mistreating their singers. I think it’s being proven that idols are not willing to roll over and take it anymore.

          • http://twitter.com/jenn__aay Jenny

            You can read a translation of E.via’s tweets here: http://www.allkpop.com/2013/01/e-via-explains-why-she-changed-her-stage-name-to-tymee-experienced-similar-situation-as-block-b

            As for Nine Muses, you can read about it here:
            http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/9-muses-of-star-empire-shocking-documentary.78327/

            It’s absolutely sickening that these companies mistreat their idols even before debut. And even if/when their group becomes popular, they continue to mistreat them by taking all of the profit for themselves and not rewarding them for their hard work. I pray to God that Stardom loses this lawsuit. They really don’t have as strong of a case compared to Block B.

          • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

             Yes. I think Block B has a really good chance of winning and being able to still promote as a band. I lot of people said that all of JYJ’s lawsuits were a bit pointless the way it ended, but I think with JYJ and other artists and now Block B that are refusing to continue to be mistreated, I think that it is a good example for the rest of the idols. It can give them courage to know that if they are being mistreated badly enough, there is a way out.

            I do think that there needs to be much harsher laws to protect minors. It seems so many children are signing on to become idols, and from the very beginning they are being taught that they signed their life away, that it’s part of being an idol to be mistreated, abused, under paid and overworked, and in some cases even raped. Most contracts are designed to make it practically impossible for the trainee/singer to leave (the fines for breaking the contract are extraordinarily high). Most of these idols had to give up an education, so they don’t even have that to fall back on. I’m sure a lot of idols that are being mistreated feel trapped and unable to get out.

          • Black_Plague

            Just a correction – E.via is not an idol but aside from that, I have to agree – the way these companies (if they should even deserve that title) treat them is outright slavery. 

          • http://twitter.com/jenn__aay Jenny

            Oh I know she’s not an idol. I was just using her as an example of someone being mistreated by her company.

  • regina_filange

    They should do a kickstarter or something for studio rentals or something and produce their stuff alone or work with others in a freelance way- they’ve basically been doing that the whole time… what I’m saying is that I really do not want them to sign with any one else at this point. I doubt they’ll be going to somewhere that’ll give them the musical freedom and money that they deserve.   

  • regina_filange

    They should do a kickstarter or something for studio rentals or something and produce their stuff alone or work with others in a freelance way- they’ve basically been doing that the whole time… what I’m saying is that I really do not want them to sign with any one else at this point. I doubt they’ll be going to somewhere that’ll give them the musical freedom and money that they deserve.   

  • http://dvqd92.tumblr.com/ Elizabeth

    i honesty hope for the best for block b during this lawsuit between them and stardom entertainment and find another company provide what they want or going independent if block b wants to leave stardom entertainment and still making/performing/releasing music by filing against stardom because of money (and the entertainment industry in general is business and is about money) i guess i’ll have to see about this lawsuit i guess 

  • http://twitter.com/PhanTheHotness Jenny

    these guys can’t get a break, can they?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3A5VXTZXZOEH62VXL4FJ7AT7Q Xinran

    Judging by the statements made by both sides, it seems that Block B’s contractual terms determine earnings through company profit instead of revenue, and unfortunately such contracts are quite common in the entertainment industry. Too many aspiring singers and actors/actresses are simply not in a position to bargain for better terms and agencies can easily make use of that to their advantage. They can artificially inflate costs by claiming to have used excessive amounts of resources for promotions, and by the time the pay is about to be distributed, the company would need it for the next round of promotions so the artists may never get their paychecks from music sales and promotions. The crux of the issue though, is that these artists should be able to renegotiate the contractual terms once they are able to prove their commercial value in the industry, but given how long these contracts typically last, they typically don’t get much of a chance to advance their interests.

    I find it commendable that the group are willing to put their careers on the line to put an end to the unfair treatment instead of waiting for some sort of internal resolution, and I suppose the public sentiments turning in their favour is the silver lining in all of this. However, judging by Stardom’s statement, they seem intent on engaging in a fair bit of mud-slinging to absolve themselves of all responsibility, then make themselves out to be the victim of CEO Lee’s crimes and depict Block B as the greedy and unappreciative bastards who have brought in more trouble than revenue for the company.

    Fortunately it seems that the people the members have previously worked with are speaking up in their defense. I came across a translated tweet of a producer (I think) who has worked with Zico on his solo material and he mentioned that Zico had to pay for the cost of producing his own individual work. Apparently zico was so broke at the time that he couldn’t bring himself to ask how much it takes to hire that producer for his services. Given the fact that the group has survived all this time with practically no support from their agency and still manage to produce good albums and performances, I don’t see too much of a problem in establishing themselves outside of Stardom. While most people are hoping that they accepted into another agency, in reality that’s not likely to happen. Nearly every other decent agency are already operating at maximum capacity and there will definitely be new conflicts arising from the differences in opinions. Since the group has been managing themselves for the most part, I can definitely see them becoming independent artists of some sort. Even though that would entail a lot more work on their part, i would rather they struggle on their own than be tied to a more established agency (not that they’ll accept all seven of them in the first place)  and be forced to accept greater limitations in their activities or in the production of their music.

  • Black_Plague

    As far as I see it, Stardom’s statement sounds like absolute bullshit and the typical excuse of blaming everything on some third party that probably doesn’t exist or has little to no important role in this whole affair. 

    At this rate, the South Korean government SHOULD be pressured further and further to make up some harsher laws in regards to cases such as this in the entertainment industry. Wonder what Cho PD has to say about this whole debacle. He’s the guy who created Block B in the first place, founded Stardom and then shit like this happens. 
    This actually makes me wonder how tough other successful rookie groups have it also behind-the-scenes. I doubt that Block B are the only ones affected of being unpaid for what they do for God knows how long. 

    Well, time to get the popcorn ready and see how this turns out. As some here pointed out, Stardom isn’t as well-off as companies like SM and the guys have a pretty strong fandom for a rookie group (at least that’s what it seems like) so it’s doubtful they’ll face blackmail. Though judging from this article, I’m assuming it might end up similar to KARA’s situation or a more subtle one of JYJ or Hangeng’s case. At least there’s no word of physical mistreatment because that would definitely spark things up even further. Being unpaid for long is one thing but  if it’s accompanied by beatings and such, then there’s a big shitstorm coming down. 

    Now, who wants to bet CCM’s KKS will pop out of his dungeon office and blabber crap out of his mouth to the public that Block B should be blacklisted from the industry just like what he said about KARA long ago?

  • https://twitter.com/appropriation_dongho_style True face of hip-hop

    I don’t know what would happen in the future but it doesn’t seem like the members are planning on disbanding. As I was writing this a twitter notification appeared my screen that B-Bomb tweeted about having his account verified. So there are no more doubts from my side that they are determined to stay together as a 7-member group. 

    And it would be a tragedy if no other agency would pick them up if they ever should leave Stardom. Their Daum fancafe ranking is 13th and the are 9th among boy groups so they should have a fairly loyal fanbase that maybe other agencies should consider…

  • http://twitter.com/lily_of_west Everybody Lies

    It’s a shame these kids can’t catch a break, some of it being misunderstandings, some of it them being too loose and inexperienced in interviews and apparently some of it due to bad managing. I think it’s still too early to think of the outcome and frankly none of us knows the truth, the company might be at fault but it’s also possible that the boys are really being played by a third party. Everyone jumping to conclusions doesn’t help either.

    Another thing is I see a lot of people comparing this to JYJ vs SME issue. I fear (and this is not me trying to sound pessimistic) that if push comes to shove, Block B might get out of this with a shorter end of the stick. The two situations are incomparable since JYJ members were already extremely famous, had money and well an enourmous fanbase all around Asia, and even with all of it still struggled. Block B doesn’t have any of it. Even though it’s been 2 years since they debuted they’re still (and again I hope no one takes this the wrong was) irrelevant there. Yes, they have some fans internationally, but as far as Asia and especially Korea goes, they’re nowhere near as important as JYJ was when they started their lawsuit. Stardom might be nowhere near SME, but it doesn’t mean they don’t have more influence than Block B members.

    They are a good group with a lot of potential, but I’ll be honest here, if they don’t patch up things with their company and come to a mutual agreement, they have one option, and that is to disband and well every man for himself. That is each of them trying to get picked up by another company, training again to eventually debut under another group. Because I honestly don’t see them all being picked up as a group by another company (I hope I’m wrong in thinking so). And to be more blunt, if that does (God forbid) happen, I can only see some of them being taken by other companies, those people being Zico, Kyung, Taeil and maybe Ukwon.

    What’s troubling here is something I don’t see anyone addressing: the fact that both Zico and Kyung dropped BlockB from their twitter accounts. Now I see most of you don’t see it as anything serious in the light of recent events, but what I don’t get is if their beef is with the company and the management and not anything internal by the group why do that? If they decided to sue as a group why do it, you have problems with the company, you’re apparently sticking together so why? Unless there’s something deeper in this whole situation. Now I’m not saying the members are fighting amongst each other, but I wouldn’t be surprised if those two decide to leave the group because they want to pursue something they might not be able to do in a group.

    Anyways I hope everything works out well for all of them, they’re good kids who were thrown into fire too soon. I hope we get to see them in the future if not as a group, then at least individually.

    • http://twitter.com/babycokes K-popping Dem Pills

      There was a *massive* discussion about the dropping the name thing.

      People came up with the idea that the Block B name was probably owned by the company and not a name they made for themselves. Also I can’t remember who but on their twitter, they wrote ” 7 of us together always” or something along the lines of that.

      • http://twitter.com/lily_of_west Everybody Lies

        Yeah I get that, but the thing is, they just started the lawsuit, they’re still under the contract and they’re still Block B. If they do get out of the contract and leave the company, then I would understand that move, but I don’t understand that being done almost at the same time (if not before) we heard about the lawsuit and the troubles. But like I said, I’m not trying to imply the members have discord internally, I just find it interesting and intriguing, that’s all.

        • http://twitter.com/babycokes K-popping Dem Pills

          Yeah I get ya, but I honestly think its more of a message to the company than anything else. More of a “we don’t want anything to do with you right now and we mean business”. 

          Who knows, who knows *shrug* let’s see how this pans out, I’m really interested…

        • Miyuki

          I thought the same thing. I hope it’s about the copyright of their name too, because only Zico and Kyung have dropped the Block B in their name. The others who have twitter still have Block B in their name. I’m afraid Kyung and Zico will return to being underground rappers, leaving the others to do whatever they want–in other words, disband.

    • ZAYA94

      Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t personally think much of Zico and Kyung updating their twitter bio and username. For one, Kyung changed it a couple times in the past. At this moment, I think it’s pointless to look too deeply into things like that and make assumptions.

      I agree, that even though they’re filing this injunction together, it’s unrealistic to believe disbanding isn’t in their future. For example, it’s to my understanding that DBSK sued SME together but in the end two members had withdrawn.

      Call me delusional, but I find hope in the fact that Zico said Block B is the one thing he has pride in. ^^

      • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

        Yunho and Changmin never sued SM. I’ve heard that JYJ has claimed (or their parents, or lawyers) that Yunho and Changmin said they would, but backed out in the end. 

        But HoMin never sued SM.

  • http://twitter.com/babycokes K-popping Dem Pills

    The fact that #ISupportBlockB was trending worldwide just proves that no matter what happens they have people that appreciate their music and their talents, people want them to continue and like it says it on the tin –  continue to support them. Whatever happens they will be fine but it’s so sad that they have gone through so much but heart warming at the same time that they are still carrying on. Shows that they actually love music and what they do and not doing it just for the money. But anyways #ISupportBlockB, always have and always will. I also hope they sue THE SHIT out of Stardom and that man gets arrested how can he take the parent’s money (and to think we knew nothing about this! Professional people man.)

    P.S. He REALLY must have had $7 on him :S

  • http://twitter.com/babycokes K-popping Dem Pills

    The fact that #ISupportBlockB was trending worldwide just proves that no matter what happens they have people that appreciate their music and their talents, people want them to continue and like it says it on the tin –  continue to support them. Whatever happens they will be fine but it’s so sad that they have gone through so much but heart warming at the same time that they are still carrying on. Shows that they actually love music and what they do and not doing it just for the money. But anyways #ISupportBlockB, always have and always will. I also hope they sue THE SHIT out of Stardom and that man gets arrested how can he take the parent’s money (and to think we knew nothing about this! Professional people man.)

    P.S. He REALLY must have had $7 on him :S

  • http://twitter.com/PlumAusten Plum Austen

    Sad that this is happening to Block B. They are truly an awesome group .They have real rappers, real singers, real composers and it would be a pity for them to stop making music. Best wishes to them so that they can get through this successfully.  

  • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

    I’m just glad they’re sticking together. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/226QWUQJ5MSXZFXNWEWTFMW2EA Diana Merino

    I’m also glad that they’re sticking together and I hope that after all, despite what happens, they don’t disband because they really are a talented group and they work hard. They don’t deserve all this crap.

  • haiitsvi

    This is sad news to a new Block B fan :(

    I only recently got into their music with Narina and Nilli Mambo and it would be horrible if they end up disbanding. I believe they have a lot of talent, especially with composing members.

    I just find the Kpop music industry and corporate structure so despicable. The way they conduct business is so shady and not very transparent. From what I’ve learned in my business studies and watching Kdramas, it seems that Korean and Asian business practices in general involve a lot of bribery and scamming, which is completely different from U.S. practices. I think this calls for some kind of new regulation in the industry or something along those lines.

  • haiitsvi

    This is sad news to a new Block B fan :(

    I only recently got into their music with Narina and Nilli Mambo and it would be horrible if they end up disbanding. I believe they have a lot of talent, especially with composing members.

    I just find the Kpop music industry and corporate structure so despicable. The way they conduct business is so shady and not very transparent. From what I’ve learned in my business studies and watching Kdramas, it seems that Korean and Asian business practices in general involve a lot of bribery and scamming, which is completely different from U.S. practices. I think this calls for some kind of new regulation in the industry or something along those lines.

  • spark0512

    I am a very new fan, and am so sad to see that Block B has been suffering behind the scenes. They always came off as fun loving. goofy guys that genuinely love what they’re doing. (They also have a few jerks in the mix, but whatever lol) I hope this lawsuit is solved with justice prevailing. I have no idea what Block B will do after this lawsuit is over, but I hope they stay together and continue to make great music.

  • spark0512

    I am a very new fan, and am so sad to see that Block B has been suffering behind the scenes. They always came off as fun loving. goofy guys that genuinely love what they’re doing. (They also have a few jerks in the mix, but whatever lol) I hope this lawsuit is solved with justice prevailing. I have no idea what Block B will do after this lawsuit is over, but I hope they stay together and continue to make great music.

  • spark0512

    I am a very new fan, and am so sad to see that Block B has been suffering behind the scenes. They always came off as fun loving. goofy guys that genuinely love what they’re doing. (They also have a few jerks in the mix, but whatever lol) I hope this lawsuit is solved with justice prevailing. I have no idea what Block B will do after this lawsuit is over, but I hope they stay together and continue to make great music.

  • goldengluvsk2

    I feel so so so so sorry for Block B… I’ve been following them since the beginning and they have been swept in all sort of misunderstandings and faced irrational hate in every way possible and now to think they have been dealing with their own issues is horrible. When I first saw the articles about their lawsuit, i was in denial thinking they would split but I was a bit relieved to see they were together in this.
    Their agency are clearly talking BS and just want to wash their hands just blaming the shady CEO when they know they did wrong… how can you possibly think someone would work for a year and so without getting paid? thats INSANE! and even if they say that during their hiatus they had no performances or public appearances, I remember clearly they released an OST “burn Out” -for Ghost i think- during that time and i’m pretty sure they wont throw themselves to make BLock B record an OST for free!! just with that you can tell they’re lying… i’m just crossing my fingers everything works out and they can find a new trusthworthy label that gives them space to continue what they were doing. 

    PS: I feel bad for the Evol girls too, I dont know what they would do now and I bet they must be on a similar or worst situation since they jsut debuted :S

  • goldengluvsk2

    I feel so so so so sorry for Block B… I’ve been following them since the beginning and they have been swept in all sort of misunderstandings and faced irrational hate in every way possible and now to think they have been dealing with their own issues is horrible. When I first saw the articles about their lawsuit, i was in denial thinking they would split but I was a bit relieved to see they were together in this.
    Their agency are clearly talking BS and just want to wash their hands just blaming the shady CEO when they know they did wrong… how can you possibly think someone would work for a year and so without getting paid? thats INSANE! and even if they say that during their hiatus they had no performances or public appearances, I remember clearly they released an OST “burn Out” -for Ghost i think- during that time and i’m pretty sure they wont throw themselves to make BLock B record an OST for free!! just with that you can tell they’re lying… i’m just crossing my fingers everything works out and they can find a new trusthworthy label that gives them space to continue what they were doing. 

    PS: I feel bad for the Evol girls too, I dont know what they would do now and I bet they must be on a similar or worst situation since they jsut debuted :S

  • goldengluvsk2

    I feel so so so so sorry for Block B… I’ve been following them since the beginning and they have been swept in all sort of misunderstandings and faced irrational hate in every way possible and now to think they have been dealing with their own issues is horrible. When I first saw the articles about their lawsuit, i was in denial thinking they would split but I was a bit relieved to see they were together in this.
    Their agency are clearly talking BS and just want to wash their hands just blaming the shady CEO when they know they did wrong… how can you possibly think someone would work for a year and so without getting paid? thats INSANE! and even if they say that during their hiatus they had no performances or public appearances, I remember clearly they released an OST “burn Out” -for Ghost i think- during that time and i’m pretty sure they wont throw themselves to make BLock B record an OST for free!! just with that you can tell they’re lying… i’m just crossing my fingers everything works out and they can find a new trusthworthy label that gives them space to continue what they were doing. 

    PS: I feel bad for the Evol girls too, I dont know what they would do now and I bet they must be on a similar or worst situation since they jsut debuted :S

  • http://twitter.com/MissMirichan Alana Mirikitani

    Wow. This is seriously messed up. Entertainments need to know that their groups aren’t stupid and will not be easily conned out of their money. I completely support Block B in taking this to court, if not this would have carried on and us, their fans, would have never noticed. We would have kept supporting them, but in reality, only supporting their company. Block B worked so hard and they deserve so much better than this treatment.

  • lilly

    the company took 70,000,000Km or 66,000 US money for their familys