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WTF Moment: Teen Top’s C.A.P and Misogyny

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Written by On January 16, 2012

My general thoughts on Teen Top are that of indifference. I am not a big fan of their music, but I don’t dislike them. I was side eyeing them when they came out with “Noona Don’t Wear Perfume“, but other than that, I shrugged my shoulders and moved on. But one of Teen Top’s members, C.A.P, reminded me of a Korean Richard Cypher, so I developed a soft spot for him. Then I came upon this gem.

What exactly did he say? On Mnet Wide’s “Open Studio,” Teen Top’s C.A.P  is asked how he would raise his children. He replied that he would dote on his son and give him everything he wants. And how would he treat his daughter?

As for my daughter, I would hit her and keep her locked up at home.

WTF, C.A.P. And all this was said with a little smirk on your face?

I used to like you C.A.P. I thought you were a decent guy, but I thought wrong. Do you see that? That’s my respect for you flinging itself out the window. This comment — made by Teen Top’s dear leader, no less —  is abhorrent and downright misogynistic . Even his group members gave him a look of that says “What just came out of your mouth?” I cannot even begin to describe how utterly wrong these 35 seconds were.

Not only does C.A.P say that he would physically beat his daughter but he claims that that’s just his “cool” parenting style.

First of all, just because he is nineteen does not mean he doesn’t know about how one should treat other humans. One also can’t base his ignorance on the supposed culture of the country. While South Korea is a patriarchal society, one also tends to forget that South Korea does not condone violence against women. During the late 90′s, Korea passed the Law to Prevent Domestic Violence and passed more legislation to  in an effort to protect women’s rights. While the nation still has ways to go regarding women’s rights, they are not stuck in the Medieval Era where male chauvinism can always be excused.

And while spanking your child is seen as normal in many countries, his blatant misogyny is repulsive. What’s even worse are the fans who defend his statements. There is no ambiguity in his statements; it is blatantly sexist. You could even see the discomfort of the MCs and other Teen Top members because they know what he said was out of line. I understand that in Asian cultures physical discipline is part of the parenting style but if that’s true why would he dote on his son but keep his daughter locked up at home because it’s dangerous outside?  It’s male chauvinism at its finest.

I have seen people defend his statement about treating his daughter more harshly, because the outside world is dangerous and it is necessary to receive such treatment to survive in the world.  I beg your pardon? That is one of the weakest refutations I have seen in my life.  It’s because people make those kinds of excuses that women still aren’t respected and still refuse to hold themselves to a higher standard of morality. Other fans have claimed that C.A.P.’s remarks were nothing but “just words” that would not translate into actions. That’s yet another weak argument, because words do have power and just because we haven’t seen him actually hurt anyone doesn’t mean his remark wasn’t out of line. We take offense to racist remarks, so why should C.A.P be excused for his sexist ones?

C.A.P.’s popularity amongst fans does not excuse him from being  called out for things like this, and making excuses for outright sexism can be as bad as the deed itself.

What are your thoughts on it? Leave your comments below.

(Amnesty International)

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  • maldita

    Ugh. I grew up in a totally Asian household and never have I ever been so offended of what an idol has said. Yes, worse than any of the shitty things Leeteuk, Shindong, Seungri, etc., have ever said. Corporal punishment is big in Asian cultures, of course, but what pissed me off was that it was only meant for CAP’s daughter while his son gets to be a pampered little shit. When my siblings and I were growing up, my parents enforced the same rules on all of us, regardless of whether one was a girl or a boy. Yes, they’re more protective of me and my sister and a little bit tougher on things like curfew or whatever, Daddy’s precious little princesses and all, but we got spanked/punished just as they would punish our naughty brothers.

  • kc

    I read about this on another site and looked down at the comments and while most of them were similar to my own and this sites there were still a few that were “oh, he was just joking” “he didn’t really mean it” 

    You don’t joke about this kind of thing, if this was really a joke perhaps he should take a back seat to comedy cause NO ONE is laughing.

    child/domestic abuse still runs rampant today and to those fans that are defending him how about they think to them selves what it would be like if they were a victim of abuse -.-

    this kind of topic should never be a laughing matter.

  • Aii

    he apologized recently..please let’s clear any misunderstandings =)

    • maldita

      Just because he apologized doesn’t mean he gets cleared of what he said. He’s doing damage control now because he’s gotten a lot of flak for it, even from fellow Koreans as well.

      Besides, his apology basically means he’ll refrain from speaking so carelessly ever again. He could go on and still have the same sexist beliefs from here on out. We just won’t hear about it anymore.

      • asdf

        Exactly. Though he may be truly sorry for ruining the group’s image by running his mouth irresponsibly (note: I still think his company just put him up to it), I don’t think he really understands why his words were wrong in the first place, which I think is what bothers everyone. 

      • guest

        But the oppositional standpoint could also hold true, no?

        Anyways this is exactly the reason why, despite my disagreement with his statements, I felt more sad than angry towards him. Because he had a single moment of idiocracy, he will be forever branded, just as Siwon will be forever branded a homophobe, and other idols for their “sins.” And should he apologize sincerely and realize his wrongdoings, no one will believe his sincerity and no one will forgive him. Kpop fans do not forgive their idols easily and in their eyes, C.A.P. will never change and there is pretty much nothing he can do that will allow him to atone.

  • Anonymous

    in a country where even a well loved and recognised actress like Choi Jin-si, beaten to pulp by that good for nothing husband, had to apologize for ‘ruining the image’ of the agency she was endorsing for publicly denounce domestic violence (action who hunted her even after her tragic death!), image how women are seen and how young males are risen if a little fart like this CAP kid felt free to talk this way about his future daughter’s education on public broadcast…way to encourage such a behaviour.
    i know i’m generalising here, but still.

    and no, i really dont care if he had apologised.

  • Music=Love

    He is 18 years old it’s not like he really knows anything about raising kids. I’m not saying what he said was right, but I’m pretty sure he only said that to be funny (but it failed) and I doubt he would actually do that. Remember he is 18 believe it or not guys are not actually that mature at that age.

    • Anonymous

      Please stop generalizing teenage guys to be stupid, immature, and silly.

      Many of them at 18 years old already know that it’s not right to hit a woman. Their fathers teach them from a young age that women are to be respected and never laid a hand on in violence. 

      He’s not a child. At his age, he is seen as an adult in most countries. He shouldn’t be excused for comments like this since it’s very possible that he actually means what he says.

      Some people always say that there’s a hint of truth in jest..

      • Music=Love

        I’m defending what he said I agree it was f@*%ked up, but it’s true most teenage boys are pretty immature. I’m surrounded by teen boys almost 24/7 (my brothers and their friends) they say a lot of stupid and ignorant things, even my dad used to say stupid things when he was CAP’s age, but with ageing and maturity he became the best father anyone could ask for. What CAP did was wrong I agree I just think it is too early to call him a child abuser. 

        • Music=Love

          *not ( i meant not defending what he said, sorry)

          • Ken

            I don’t think that is something you joke about because it’s a serious topic. And he is an idol so he should already know that he has to be careful about what he says….obviously he didn’t realise that till now.

          • Music=Love

            Have you ever heard of a show called Family Guy, if not I’m pretty sure you would be shocked about what they joke about. C.A.P’s comment is just a bunch of bunnies and kittens compared to this show and it’s ridiculously popular in America.

          • Arbitrary_greay

            But in Family Guy, you know that it’s a joke. Hell, the joke is that it’s so wrong. Shock comedy. 
            With CAP, we don’t know if it’s a joke or not, and that’s why he shouldn’t have said it. Context is important. 

          • Music=Love

            I never said it was definitely a joke, I don’t agree at all with what he said, if I was his mom I would beat his ass, but not hate him and call him a child abuser….at least not yet.

  • Bookthiefj

    I grew up in an Asian household and the very few times i was spanked , was for bein shy and not bein bold in public . So I am really surprised that there are still guys who tend to lock up women cos the world is ‘dangerous’ … And worse still , he is talking about it on television . This boy really needs some counselling !

  • Arbitrary_greay

    EVEN IF his comments were a joke:

    1) Jen’s comment

    2) “Get back in the kitchen” jokes are only acceptable as good fun in a setting where everyone is in on the joke and everyone is aware of why it’s wrong. (The joke in a “Get back in the kitchen” joke is that people are aware that it’s wrong and that the joke teller is saying it as a sort of sarcasm.) 
    CAP is an idol. He is not a comedian. This automatically means that not everyone is in on the joke, and that a good deal of people will take him seriously, disagreeing and agreeing with him.  The fact that he did not immediately retract his comments as a joke, and that the MCs immediately moved on instead of calling him out or riffing on his comments as a joke, proves that they were basically taking him seriously. That means that EVEN IF he doesn’t actually believe in his joke, he shouldn’t have told it.

  • Anonymous

    what irks me more is that he said this is a “cool” way to raise his children.

  • whatthefrell

    I agree with you 100%.
    There is absolutely no excuse what-so-ever.
    The reactions of others clearly demonstrate
    that there was absolutely nothing funny about what he said.
    I haven’t been online for a few days so
    I don’t know if anyone in the entertainment industry
    has stepped up and made a statement against his comments.
    Don’t these idol groups have handlers;
    you would think Teen Top’s would have immediately taken
    steps to correct this.
    He is a “leader” of a group with tons of female fans, young and old.
    He is old enough to know better.
    How can this be okay…
    Maybe Teen Top needs a different leader.

  • Kittywalk

    I think he was just joking 
    because its the girls that you pamper and adore and treat like little princess and its the boys that you give” fatherly love” and spanking so when he said that he wants to be a cool parent I think he meant that he wants to be a Father who does not treat his  son and daughter differently 

    that was my initial thought after seeing the video clip 
    =)

    • Disgusted

       really? but he said explicitly that he will dote on his son and harshly treat his daughter. Is that not differently to you? 

    • yuck

      hmm, I dunno. It’s a curious thing, but in older asian culture it seems like sons were more appreciated than daughters. As if it’s a greater accomplishment to birth a boy than a girl. I guess, maybe the whole carrying on the family lineage, name, and whatnot. But come on. Can we get a little educated?? Domestic violence and sexist comments aren’t funny.

    • annoyed

      … are you that ignorant?

    • whatthefrell

      So then it’s okay as long as you abuse both your male and female children…

  • Anonymous

    C.A.P.’s comment doesn’t just stem from stupidity and teenage immaturity. This type of comment usually stems from a deeper, darker place where some people see violence and develop a tolerance and even a preference for it, along with a twisted logic that it is okay to inflict violence on others, especially on women, as long as they think it’s done in the name of “protection” and to guarantee women’s obedience.

    I mean, he was asked what he’d do if he had kids, and he answered right away that he’d dote on his son and beat his daughter. Now what kind of normal, decent person has that thought process and immediately offers up an opinion about abusing someone else, especially a child? 

    Most people, even teenagers, won’t consider such a thing when asked how to be a parent. They’d just say, “I’ll buy them this or that. I’ll be the best parent ever.” but certainly not entertain thoughts of hitting and beating up a child. There is nothing common or normal in that type of comment at all. Someone who thinks abuse is funny should set off alarm bells in peoples’ heads.

    It is time we start to reflect on when we can hold teenagers accountable for many things they say or do because often times, they do mean what they say. Their views may be unenlightened, but it’s not like they have no conviction no matter how misguided it is and they might grow up having the same views on women if they’re not called out on their behavior. Oft, they do mean what they say and it’s not all, “LOL! Psych! I was totally kidding.” 

    If an 18-year old can be tried in the court of law as an adult, we can consider someone like CAP to be an adult who should have enough wisdom to know right from wrong, and that even thinking about abusing someone is grossly offensive and inappropriate.

    We can’t always call some teens’ actions as “normal for a teenager”, since this kind of behavior and opinion aren’t shared by every teenager. At least, there is not enough evidence to suggest that violence against women is something that every teenage boy considers as acceptable and funny. 

    IMO it is because they’re always seen as stupid and immature that some teens think they can get away with making offensive and inappropriate comments. They know that someone will always excuse them for being teenage brats who don’t know any better. 

    When do some people think that teenagers actually mean it when they say they’d have no problems beating a woman up and it’s not a joke anymore? 

    When they’re knocking and pushing their girlfriend around just for fun?

    When they’re bashing their sister’s head against the wall for wearing a short dress? 

    When they’re smashing their mother’s face with their fists for not cooking the food the way they like it? 

    We can’t take this kind of comment as just a joke. It’s never funny and should never be thought of as funny, and it shouldn’t be condoned and dismissed as a guy being a stupid teenager. This kind of comment should be treated seriously and “nipped in the bud”, and the person who made it should be told as to why such comments are inappropriate. 

    Many abusers start their history of violence by joking about hitting and harming others, too. Some people dismiss it as stupid talk, until the guy/girl is arrested for actually abusing someone.

    Remember this, the next time someone says that abusing someone is just a joke:

    It isn’t even 60 years ago that men still had the power to lock up their wives and daughters in mental asylums for being “bad” and acting up, and they had the power to keep their wives or daughters in mental asylums for however long they wanted. Some were locked up until they were ‘cured’ and became obedient. Some were locked up until they died.

    It isn’t 60 years ago when many women were lobotomized as a ‘cure’ for their “misbehavior”, to make them obedient and submissive to the wishes of the men in their families, and they were made that way by the same men who had the power to decide their lives for them: husbands, fathers, sons, brothers, grandfathers. Many of them became ‘zombies’ with no life, no emotions left…

    It isn’t even 60 years ago when it was fine for husbands to beat their wives. The police wouldn’t take the abuser into custody and would even reprimand the wife for ‘provoking’ her husband, and many people considered domestic violence as acceptable. When women would file for divorce, they were the ones ostracized for it.

    It isn’t even 60 years ago that ads like these were actually made to sell products:
    http://www.businesspundit.com/10-most-sexist-print-ads-from-the-1950s/ 

    And these instances were all in the US, a country that was already considered to be “civilized” by the time the 1900s came about.

    History is littered with abuse and violence towards women often perpetrated by their own family members, and others either excused it or turned a blind eye to it because women were seen as property with no rights, and that men owned and had complete control over them. 

    Even now, in many countries all over the world, women are still under the control of the men in their families, and they can be killed by their own father/son/brother if they deemed it fit to murder their own relative for a perceived wrongdoing. There are still countries around the world where a girl who is a rape victim is stoned to death and considered to be the one at fault while the rapist gets away scot-free.

    The world is a f*cked up place. We shouldn’t add to it by brushing off comments like “I’d hit and lock up my daughter while I dote on my son” and just say it’s a teenage boy being normal.

    Some serial killers start off by maiming and harming small, helpless animals at a young age. Some abusers display patterns of abusive behavior with comments and actions like hitting someone and claiming it’s all a joke.

    I can never take this type of comment as funny, especially when I have someone in my family who was “lucky” enough to escape from her husband’s abuse. 

    I can’t see any humor in this when I know that someone somewhere in the world is suffering at the hands of a person who thinks it is within his right to punish women because of their gender.

    • bt

      monkey see monkey do. i bet his dad or some close male relative is like that and was able to rationalize that it’s okay. if this guy had any sense of morality, he’d know it’s wrong. but asians have a very looong history of favoring boys over girls and the brain-washing is pretty damn strong

  • kaoj

    what i find hilarious about asian families where the parents spend much more time, effort, and money on their sons than their daughters is that when shit happens, when the parents need something, it’s always the daughter who comes back. where’s the son? nowhere to be found.

  • ehyc

    What he said was wrong. But he meant it as a joke. It’s a stupid, insensitive joke, but he didn’t mean it. He’s not really going to do that to his daughter….my point is, what he did is wrong. But people are blowing this up and making things worse.

    • Guest

      So you’re either a mindreader or a fortune teller? Glad that you can be so confident he’s not going to do that to his daughter.

    • Lill

      how do you know he’s not really going to do that to his daughter? Plan on being there to make sure it doesn’t happen? I’d rather make it a big deal so he knows very well its wrong or at least someone yells at him enough for him to think about it. Better safe than sorry when it comes to a kid…..WHO IS MORE IMPORTANT than he is at the moment.

      • http://tulipbiscuit.tumblr.com/ Emma

        And how do you know Niel isn’t going to do that to HIS daughter? You’ll yell at him too just in case? Or how about ALL k-pop idols who happen to be male? Just yell at the ones who make distasteful jokes? Honestly kids that age especially don’t listen if they’re getting yelled at. And there’s certainly no sure-fire way to tell if someone will beat their child. If they joke about it, does that mean that they will undoubtedly beat their child? If someone jokes about, say, bestiality today will you seriously be expecting it if you find them fucking a horse tomorrow? Did laughing at his bestiality joke make him think it was ok?
        Rape and domestic violence are SERIOUS issues, so why are you people wasting your time flaming a kid for a joke? I’m sure he’s learned his goddamn lesson by now and is incredibly embarassed, so now lets go take care of REAL abusers instead of wasting our time on C.A.P.

  • Anonymous

    The comments on allkpop are making my head explode. 

    • b5b

      that’s because a lot of them are not-yet-fully-matured-in-the-head teeny boppers who will always support their oppas. or they’re just stupid. either way, it’s fun trollin with them :)

    • Anonymous

      Same here. I was just about to post a comment telling people to read the comments over there and be baffled.

      I don’t recommend it anymore. ]:

  • Kate

    I was really surprised myself how many people were defending him especially girls. I was really taken aback by what he said. The fact that so many people especially girls were making up excuses to defend him was sad because the fact that they immediately didn’t find it offending makes it them seem like they have no self-respect.

    I think that if it were the other way round and a female idol said something like this, less people would be defending them. I’ve seen it happen where a female idol had done or said something wrong and most people would attack her rather than defend her while if it was a male idol, it would be the opposite. If a male idol said or did something wrong, a lot of people would defend him instead of attack him. I found this prejudiced since it seems like males in particular can get away with mostly anything but for females they have it harder and can’t get away with it.

  • http://airanimechiic.blogspot.com Sungel

    I feel like they never should have aired this part in the first place… 
    Followed by the fact that I hope he gets beat up by the rest of the members in their dorm. :3 Great fic material.
    And goddammit international kpoppers… dont try to pretend to be korean =.=”

    • Lill

      I’m confused as to what this has to do with people pretending to be korean…..they’re are many people who aren’t american but like to judge america. And pretend to know what american masses think or feel. But I digress, it has nothing to do with the topic.

  • nasdk

    I’m not defending him or anything, just pointing something out:
    Just from this clip it doesn’t seem to me that “you could even see the discomfort of the MCs and other Teen Top members because they know what he said was out of line”.

  • Anonymous

    I could care less if he said it in jest or it was opposite day, that’s not something normal humans beings just… say with a straight/smiley face. Yea, sure, Korea is still patriarchal, but patriarchal or not, isn’t it a father’s job to see that his daughter is protected from all harm -usually in the form of other men who could take advantage of her physically or mentally- until she is of age to leave the nest? How can a man do that when he’s setting up the environment that says to a little girl “It’s okay if your husband beats and humiliates you or any children you have. This is for your own good.”

    Apologies from guys like C.A.P, Leeteuk, Shindong, Siwon, and all other guys who are repeat what I call “Side-eye Word Vomit Offenders” are nothing short of damage control and don’t mean anything. An apology doesn’t change the fact that he [C.A.P] spewed that word vomit for the world to hear in the first place. I’m sick of fans defending their OpPArS and UnNIeS saying “they were joking” and “didn’t mean it”. Newsflash: not all people say what they mean, but they usually mean what they initially say, especially young adults who are more likely to say the first thing that pops into their mind without thinking things over.

    • lay

      THIS.
      human are judged by what they say and do. i guess those who said that he’s joking blah blah blah are mind-readers. heh ….
       

  • Anonymous

    The thing that suprises me is they didnt realise his comment was sexist that even their manager hyung (who mustve been present at the time of the interview) did not request to edit out the statement

  • Arizona

    In the video: “So that she listens to me well” ? … Ok, really?

  • Yamelgarcia

    he’s probably just just joking around… man people really need to stop taking every thing these idol’s say to HEART!! they are normal too.. don’t tell me you have never said anything stupid before…BTW this is not me defending CAP, i don’t really care for them… Im just saying what everything little thing that idols say or do should not be analyzed and twisted all the time… At the end of the day they still are human.

    • Arbitrary_greay

      The difference is that CAP is an idol on national television, which means that yes, the majority of people will take things he says to heart.(Including his own teammates and the MCs, apparently) Ergo, he shouldn’t be joking about such hot button issues, EVEN IF he was joking about it. Like I said in my own comment, those kinds of jokes or “saying stupid things” should be reserved for private company or a comedy setting where the point is that the joke content is acknowledged as wrong.

    • who am i? i am me

      LMAO okay. I’ll go out and tell everyone I’m going to go and beat my kid if she’s a girl and spoil him if he’s a boy, then I’m go to totally smile and act as if everything is okay. Because this kind of stuff it totally said on accident and people are totally understanding of child abuse. And you know, it’s fine, because I was just trying to “make a joke” and it “came out wrong”, but then again, why did it cross my mind to begin with? And since when were SEXIST jokes about CHILD ABUSE funny?

      This isn’t right even if someone normal says it. And the fact that he was on TV being interviewed should’ve warned him to watch what he said, especially as an idol.

      Yes, we are all still human. So are murderers, rapists, etc.

  • Biased

    A little of topic, but your writing is heavily doused with opinion and makes it difficult for me to have my own thoughts on the subject when clear bias instead of facts are being presented.

    • Tombradygirl

      LoL… The writer was expressing her opinion about what Cap said. Is it biased against him? Yes, but it’s her opinion isn’t it? Besides, how can the facts not be clear to you. Did you not watch the video?

      Personally, I was offended by his comments and simply could not believe someone who is 19 in this day & age think this way. Plus violence against your own daughter? What the heck? Makes me wonder how he was brought up since he’s such a male chauvinistic pig?

    • who am i? i am me

      Well, the video was a fact. That good enough for you?

      Besides, all the articles here are biased. This isn’t allkpop – they don’t just report news, they also share their opinions. Are you new or something? :P

  • Anonymous

     apologies without realizing it is worst than not  apologies
    he is such j erk that talk about woman in this same way

    i don’t accept he was kidding because you don’t kidding about really serious matter
    and i think he say his mind word 

    • Music=Love

      I suggest you NEVER watch a show called Family Guy.

      • who am i? i am me

        Family Guy is funny because they make it obvious everything is a joke.
        CAP was in an interview, not some comedy show.

        • Music=Love

          Yeah you’re right

        • http://tulipbiscuit.tumblr.com/ Emma

          Yes but there is a pressure to be funny and witty on variety shows and interviews, and if you’ve regularly watched those kinds of shows, you might think it’s a funny joke that will make people laugh. I hate to get lumped in with the ‘OPPA DIDNT MEAN IT’ crew, but I seriously think he didn’t mean it and was totally confused when nobody laughed at his joke.

          He’s young, come on.

          • who am i? i am me

            I know, but honestly, I don’t know how child abuse comes up when someone is trying to be funny. You can defend some people on mistakes, but this is just freakin’ ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    he’s a kid, he doesn’t know shit. he’ll never find a woman who shares this viewpoint.

  • whatthefrell

    I love some of the responses of his group-mates:
    ‘Wha… why…’
    ‘That’s scary…’ 
    and when CAP says it’s because it’s dangerous outside,
    one responds, ‘so you’ll hit her at home too?!!’
    The rest of them will be just fine.
    I wonder if CAP’s mother has heard this and what she thinks?

  • KJ

    I just hope some of the older women and men around him explained how sexist and horribly wrong his way of thinking is, because the “apology” he gave after k-netizens called him out only showed he was sorry for not keeping his mouth shut. :(

  • Iosf

    Ever since i got into kpop ive been reading on east asian countries too. Ive come to realize that these countries are someway backwards even poorer countries have laws that protect women and children and certainly dont have the mentality of this guy.

  • whatthefrell

    I am in no way excusing his comments, but I just realized he is a Scorpio,
    and male Scorpios are a different kind of people, extreme in their beliefs, even odd,
    and often misunderstood.  He has a lot of growing up to do.

    ”
    CAP wrote via TEEN TOP’s official homepage on the 17th, “I made a
    major mistake by saying what I did on last week’s episode of Mnet ‘Wide
    Entertainment News’, and for that I sincerely apologize.”

    He continued, “I was just trying to be funny and entertaining
    during the interview, and what I really meant to say just came out
    wrong. I was rebuked by a number of people, and I feel that I deserved
    it… I feel terrible that my team has been criticized because of my
    actions, and I just want you guys to know that I am reflecting on my
    actions. I promise to be more cautious in the future and become a
    prudent person .”

    TEEN TOP’s agency T.O.P Media remarked, “We
    apologize for the anxiety we caused everyone due to CAP’s controversial
    comment. We are heeding the advice and comments received from viewers
    after making a comment that was quite inappropriate for TV, and we will
    make sure to warn our artists about being more cautious in the future.”

    TEEN TOP’s leader CAP recently remarked on a recent episode of Mnet
    ‘Wide Entertainment News’ that he would discipline his daughters by
    hitting them and keeping them at home, while his sons would be free to
    do everything their heart desired.

    ”

  • Naomi

    OMG!! I am seriously getting annoyed by all these fans tht are seriously over-reacting about this and hatin on him (to the point tht people have made a petition to kick him out of the group!! D:<)

    I understand tht people have been offended and i do admit tht the actual comment is sexist but the main point is tht he obviously didn't mean it in a sexist way,(It's not what you say it's how u say it)
    If he mean't it he wouldn't have been smiling he would have been more serious about it.He obviously didn't mean it like "oh, because she's a girl she has to be locked in the house all time"I see it as he was just tryin to say tht he wants to protect his daughter but it obviously didn't come out right & then people misunderstood himHe's apologised for the comment anyway so i don't see why people are hatin on him
    (BTW this is coming from quite a big feminist)

    • Arbitrary_greay


      so i don’t see why people are hatin on him

      Probably because in his apology he doesn’t clarify anything on what he meant to say that “came out wrong,” so it sounds like he doesn’t actually feel sorry for coming across as a child abuser, but only that he’s sorry people were offended at it. Ergo, he sounds like he’s only sorry that he got caught, not that he was doing something wrong in the first place.  

    • Arbitrary_greay


      so i don’t see why people are hatin on him

      Probably because in his apology he doesn’t clarify anything on what he meant to say that “came out wrong,” so it sounds like he doesn’t actually feel sorry for coming across as a child abuser, but only that he’s sorry people were offended at it. Ergo, he sounds like he’s only sorry that he got caught, not that he was doing something wrong in the first place.  

    • Arbitrary_greay


      so i don’t see why people are hatin on him

      Probably because in his apology he doesn’t clarify anything on what he meant to say that “came out wrong,” so it sounds like he doesn’t actually feel sorry for coming across as a child abuser, but only that he’s sorry people were offended at it. Ergo, he sounds like he’s only sorry that he got caught, not that he was doing something wrong in the first place.  

  • Jae

    Some of these comments are making me lose faith in humanity. Smh so hard.

  • ari

    He’s an idiot for saying something so disgusting on TV … but it’s good to hear that kind of crap spoken in public so people can react to it. I hope the backlash has made him re-think his ideas.

  • Ingibjörg

    “…women still aren’t respected and still refuse to hold themselves to a higher standard of morality.”
    And what exactly do you mean by that?

    • Anonymous

       While there has been great progression in women’s rights we still aren’t completely equal, and comments like this further show that inequality. I might be generalizing but have you seen some of the comments his fangirls are writing excusing him? I suggest going to Soompi or allkpop to see the evidence but it’s disgusting. Many people are offended by this and called him out but at the same time there are many who are saying “OPPA DIDNT MEAN IT” It’s because people excuse things like that there is still not a lot of respect for females. How did women get the rights they deserve? Because they knew that they were worth as much as men and fought for their rights, not because they laid back and did nothing and excused the actions of chauvinistic men. 

  • Evilfreak16

    C.A.P was the only one I like as well, but watching that clip upsets me and it got me angry. Men like C.A.P just don’t belong in the 21st century where women are taking over because their ego won’t tolerate it

    • http://tulipbiscuit.tumblr.com/ Emma

      Actually, your comment makes me want to recommend a book to you that I really think you must read: 
      Manning Up: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men into Boys

      Hear me out, I’m a woman and I think women are worth just as much as boys, but that doesn’t mean that the genders aren’t different. Women are obviously different from men, and I often feel like we condemn men as egotistical and selfish without actually knowing a thing about how they’re feeling and how they’re just as human as women are.

  • Anonymous

    One case is not representative of a nation’s view. While it was a horrific case and I’m disappointed with the outcome of it I’m trying to say that South Korea is not a country which condones that behavior, many people tend to generalize Korea to be this horrendous backwards country where women are beaten everyday and just docile submissive creatures when that isn’t the case. Yes women aren’t completely equal and while that is saddening it is the same in America and any other country, sexism is a problem that is world wide and they outlawed domestic violence which is a step forward.  

  • http://tulipbiscuit.tumblr.com/ Emma

    I actually just re-watched the video and notice that NONE of the Teen Top members look particularly uncomfortable. And you’ll notice that C.A.P thought a second, speaking slowly while he was figuring out how to make his answer funny … and said the part about how he would treat his female child quickly and almost deadpanning like a comedian saying the punchline. I doubt he actually thinks sexism and beating children is funny. But I’m sure he thought everyone would think it was.

    The way they pit idols against each other for screentime even within their own groups makes it no surprise to me that he’d say something edgy and shocking just to get one more ounce of attention focused in his direction.

    • W.

      Still a mistake is a mistake, no excuses for making that MCP statement. Actions sprout from thoughts so he should have been more careful with his words. Hopefully what he says isn’t what he really meant and that he learns something good out of this.

    • W.

      Still a mistake is a mistake, no excuses for making that MCP statement. Actions sprout from thoughts so he should have been more careful with his words. Hopefully what he says isn’t what he really meant and that he learns something good out of this.

  • Anonymous

    it’s sweet when a man is protective of his daughter, but not when abuse is mixed in 

  • Te PoAo Repia

    a….that’d be totally embarassing to have a leader who could make such a slip, upsetting as it is, even though his fans are protecting what he said, I just have to admire their care. Their just doing what a mother would do for a child. Hah, Teen top are an amazing band and myheart goes out to them. And if they ever need a girl rapper to taje place for C.A.P, well facebook me Te PoAo Repia. Peace out everyone (^_^)

  • Tatiana

    Everyone makes mistake no body is perfect…i think what he said and what he ment to say came out really wrong….Im sure you would have a conversation with someone and you said something that was out of line or something without thinking..it happends all the time…he said he was sorry for what he said and that everything came out SOOO wrong. He was hurt and regrets what he done.  Hopfully its a leason lerned for him and it wont happend again.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4ZSUYNPUIRG7OCJAG3CTPDETM Bazinga

    I don’t like CAP anymore ….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/G4YEZ75723SO7262VEMHAJ4W4M nou

    The fact that he made that comment with confidence and a straight face makes it even worse. I mean, why did they even air something like that? I’m disappointed in the boy. Andy, Andy please discipline your boys more, okay?

  • aminastar97

    I think C.A.P is mistakened. He should be taught the proper way how to raise a daughter if he does  have one one day . They shouldnt even aired that. Anyway C.A.P was wrong, I dont hate him though he just needs be taught and also find out why does he think that or maybe his words came out wrong.

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