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Is Orange Caramel’s ‘Shanghai Love’ Offensive?

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Orange Caramel is the perfect group for Halloween. While they have these insane nonsensical outfits, they also have fun, youth, and a willingness to act silly for the entertainment of others.  Their latest incarnation is essentially a tribute to China, just in case the song title ‘Shanghai Love’ didn’t tip you off. They have just begun song promotions with visual tributes to Bruce Lee and “jigae” Chinese Vampires. With the heavy Halloween undertones, it brought to mind—could the Chinese costumes be offensive?


There’s no doubt that the concept is being done with purely innocent intentions. It’s part of Pledis’ “One Asia” project, which having covered Thailand and China, finds other culturally-rich Asian countries to write songs about.  This came up while costume shopping, coincidentally. There was a discussion over the offensiveness of certain theme costumes, such as “Native American,” “Geisha,” “Oriental Princess” (anything with the word oriental in it really) “Mexican”… unfortunately you can go on and on.

I realize that in a way it is an unfair comparison – what Orange Caramel is doing, for lack of a better word, is a tribute, as opposed to creating caricatures of a living group of people.  My interest lies in what would seem like the next logical country: Japan. Now, considering the history between South Korea and Japan, it likely makes the issue more sensitive than say, with China.

Just think of what the costumes could be – Harajuku girls, geisha (of course), even yakuza? I think of what a slippery slope this could be going down the line if they decide to draw this out, say if they were to do Vietnam (not likely, but work with me here). Would they appear on stage dressed to work in a rice paddy?  Or let’s turn it around on them and say, how South Korea would feel if China had a pop group doing a “tribute” to Korea, with hanboks, paper fans and the like. I have to say, I’m not entirely sure how they would react. There would likely be no international incident, but I have a feeling they would be less than enthused.

It can be a thin line between paying tribute and being gimmicky. American artists in particular are often given much grief over their depiction of other ethnicities in their music videos and performances. Korea’s closeness to China does not support an attitude of (extreme) cultural ignorance; but we should still remember that reaching into more obscure areas of Chinese folklore, while commendable, could unearth a piece of cultural history that is sacred and unfamiliar.  A seemingly inoffensive gesture on Pledis’ part could strain relations with an integral part of their fan base (i.e. Muslims and their taboo of visual references to their prophet Mohammad in the media no matter the tone, is considered sacrilegious).

Still, we have to remember that being a part of the Asian community makes these countries less culturally distant. Korea doesn’t exactly have a great track record with um, representing countries outside the Asian Diaspora. In addition much of Asia is enamored with Korean pop culture which has done its job in boosting its visibility throughout.  So, likely, this is just a lone thought from my overworked brain, but does anyone else feel ‘Chinese dress-up’ could be taken a little too far?

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  • Gnattie

    What’s really offensive is the hideousness of their outfits.

    • tsk tsk

      yea, and its not just any outfit; they’ve basically disfigured a chinese traditional costume (cheong sam) by using that fugly floor mat flower pattern and adding the flappy strip of cloth at the back…so yea that can b pretty offensive

      • H Lee

        the song and costumes are already so crappy to begin with, so I’m only slightly offended but I found their effed up versions of chinese dresses annoying.

    • asianromance

      There are tons of beautiful qipaos/cheongsams for cheap in China – yet they somehow have to make these ugly versions of it.  Shanghai denotes city life and sophistication - yet the outfits look like some kid’s art project.  I feel bad for the girls.  I bet when they got the costumes, they were like wtf?! Where’s the pretty dress I was expecting?!
      This song reminds me of the Japanese para para movement a few years back.  

  • Anonymous

    their songs are addicting but annoying.

  • Mer

    I find everything about them offensive and annoying, so their costumes are just another notch.

  • http://worshipandswag.wordpress.com/ worshipandswag

    Um, I feel like everyone’s become sensitive these days lol. That aside. This costume thingy isn’t surprising to me. In a Kpop world where everyone is concept-hungry, producing good music simply won’t do. Jeez I can almost swear that an African concept is in the cooks. And while perfecting their image Kpop mgmt. companies keep stepping on toes, albeit unintentionally and that’s the issue with music.

    It’s hard to be politically correct if you want to maintain originality in your songs…but not totally impossible. Except that a parallelism exists between music and politics in Asia…for example the Korean govt.’s heavy involvement in music scene. I hope this doesn’t morph into a bigger issue… I just feel bad for the girls, being put in a group named orange caramel, have to play dress up & may have to deal with antis instead of focusing on music.

  • Revy

    I so agree with Mer. OC always have me running for their door

  • Guest

    For the record, the song is called “Shanghai Romance”, not “Shanghai Love”.

  • Capri08

    I don’t think their costumes are offensive, unless they start trying to act like certain ethic group than it become offensive. As for the group itself, it’s like too much sugary-sweet shot that goes straight to your head.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t personally find them offensive, but who knows. Blah, blah, almost everything you do turns out to be racist, and someone or the other is offended.

    But really, the people you don’t want to piss off right now are the Chinese.  No one wants to end up like Google (different situation but still works).

  • becky

     I don’t think’s really offensive but its not my place to say since I don’t know fully the history between the two countries, but if the band knows its sensitive issue they know better, but like you said, Korean artists are known to be quite insensitive about these kinds of things. whats I find of offensive is the cutesy stuff.

  • regina

    I always find their outfits humorous and fun and in that way it isn’t offensive. The whole thing is supposed to be costume-y. If they did geisha, they wouldn’t do the exact thing but a kitschy version of it, like most things in k-pop are. It’s not like dressing up with a certain culture or style in mind is an attack at a certain ethnicity.

  • Naia

    I’m taking a class on Seeing Asia and Showing Asia, the costumes in a sense are problematic because there is a historical context to the whole ethnic or cross cultural dressing thing. Orientalism has long been a problem and the topic of much discourse within the academic sphere, the fact that most of the public sees this as non offensive may be a problem in itself. But we always have to remember that we are seeing a mediated image. For anyone interested you should watch M. Butterfly, where a Chinese woman plays a Japanese woman in the opera, a French woman plays a Japanese woman, and essentially a man plays a woman. It’s through these instances where we find that we treat each case differently.

    • Naia

      Though I would venture to say that I agree people are very sensitive about thing and it’s an ongoing thing about how to deal with these things and there is no definite answer besides being aware and informed of the fact that there is still a problem. But this doesn’t necessary mean we have to take away our enjoyment of a performance.

  • Anonymous

    For it to be offensive you’ll have to ask someone knowledgeable in Chinese History and customs. Otherwise it’s more or less ignorant for me or anyone else without said knowledge to know. EDUCATION.  some companies need to do their homework, if they’re too lazy just stick with Korean tingz. But seeing how this is a “one Asia” project you really should do your homework like any project or better yet hire someone who knows what they’re doing. (i’m pretty sure they won’t cover all of Asia so stepping on toes is nothing new)

    *peace*

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000555937917 Crystal Wong

    Me. lol simple as that. 

  • Atrapforfools

    I agree thatch concept was ceasing dreamed up with no ill-intention. But when I first saw it, I did stop and wonder how Chinese people might feel about it.

    Like you said, unlike most instances of cultural appropriation, they’re not trying to portray a racist or stereotypical caricature of a group of people. Not at all. And I’m not Chinese, so I can’t pretend to be an authority in this discussion or claim much knowledge. But I do think it is a slippery slope to walk on when wearing the traditional garb of another culture as a “concept”. I’m sure they just meant to pay tribute, but it’s something to think about.

    As for the people complaining about everything being “so PC” these days… This article didn’t make any accusations. It merely opened a discussion. And I believe there should be more discussion of what and what isn’t okay as the world become more connected and cultures continue to mix. Heaven forbid anyone think about things critically.

  • Michael Park

    Knowing the relationship between Korea and China… I’m not too sure what to think about this. I’m quite surprised that no Chinese people have started bashing yet… honestly Koreans are racist. Sayin it from true experience and the fact that we still call Chinese people ‘Jangge’(derogatory) is proof. 

    All I know is that if Chinese people wore korean stuff, sang about ‘Seoul Love’ in korean costumes with a song that’s not even the least bit substantial, I’m sure Koreans would start bashing. That’s just what it’s going to be like. 

    So i don’t get why if korean wouldn’t let chinese people do it, why we’re okay with openly ‘mocking’ chinese stuff. sure the intention may not be to mock, but it’s all about suggestions and dang i dunno but if I was chinese person i would be pissed. 

    That said, Koreans have a worse relationship with Japan. So at least they’re not doing the geisha thing.

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  • http://twitter.com/SupaNnnooah Noah S / Iskandar M

    I am a muslim and I am not offended.

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  • Anooon

    the song is supposed to be part of the One Asia project.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UD4NZ4UASPKNIU36I6LSXD6DA pieluvr

    I’m 100% Chinese, but have lived in America ever since I was born, so my opinion is probably different from those raised in China. When I first saw this I was thinking “Why the heck are they singing about Shanghai?” But I don’t find it offensive, just strange when they sing about a place outside of Korea, not that there’s anything wrong with that.