• eve92

    I love this song, it puts me in a great mood! And it’s just so true, one should never need a man for money.

    I think it’s actually not a song that’s as dance based as their old ones. It seems to put their voices to the forefront and I need to say Fei has quite a lovely voice. All in all I’m just happy they are back because I love Miss A!

  • BVMR

    MIA since 2011? what about Touch?
    Fun song btw, currently playing on repeat.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EMJ7TLLKH3HNWYTUXSLMA6UJWQ May

    Not a fan of Miss A but this song definitely caught my attention and immediately fell in love. One more thing is that I can relate to it..it is so true that woman don’t have to be dependent on someone else for money. We, women, can definitely stand on our own feet. 

    I’ll give Miss A standing ovation.

  • xchoccies

    Umm, they came back with Touch earlier this year…? Anyway, I like the song. This sort of sound really compliments well with them. Dance-wise its simple but suits the song nicely (although is it just me or does Suzy look a bit rusty?). I loved that Ciara-move Jia pulled at the end. 

  • JammySmoochie

    One of miss A’s best songs. I have no complaints, really, save for the simple choreography. I know these girls are capable of something more complicated and amazing. Not that I hate the choreo (cuz I like it). It’s just, as you mentioned, too Wonder Girls-simple. And yes, Suzy was adorable.

  • Triinu

    I’m getting a bit tired of all these songs by women declaring their independence while still talking about men. They still frame womanhood as something inherently related to men somehow. Is it really that hard to be independent and assert that independence without talking about a man to be independent from? 

    • http://twitter.com/Chukti Nanou Sen Sharma

       Don’t forget that in the song they say also “Be independant from parent’s money”

      Anyway, I think is a good message for Korean Girls who tend to ask their boyfriend to buy everything for them –’

      • Triinu

        True. In Korean context, this song is actually mighty fine. South Korea is a fairly conservative society that draws a lot from Confucianism, where the woman’s role is defined through her relationships with men, so it is understandable that the first step towards female empowerment and independence would be to sever that connection and/or openly express and discuss the need to do so. 

        I was talking from a personal point of view. I’d just like to hear women sing about a different kind of independence/empowerment for a change. 

        • WonderfulZingMin

          what more than depending from your own money. I actually prefer this lyrics from the i had my heart broken, fuck men or the i am so badass.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

          Agreed, completely.

  • Chocho268

    Liked the MV! Fei looked absolutely stunning!

    Can’t say the same thing for the song, though. While it certainly IS catchy, I got bored of it after the 3rd listen, which is something that happens with most of Miss A’s songs.

  • Bhongo

    I really like this song. It is like a Destiny’s Child continuation of Independent Women Part 1 and Part 2 hence Miss A’s song is I Don’t Need A Man (Independent Women Part 3).

    Opening Verse of DC’s IW Part 1 and 2 “Question tell me what you think about me
    I buy my own diamonds and I buy my own rings?
    Only ring your cell-y when I’m feeling lonely
    When it’s all over please get up and leave!”

    Miss A’s I Don’t Need A Man (IW Part 3)
    “The money may be little but it’s from my own sweat
    This isn’t a ring that a boyfriend bought me
    My car, my clothes – I bought it all on my own
    I bought them after putting money into savings, after giving allowance to my parents
    If you trust men, what will you do when they leave you?”

    I like that both songs speak about holding your own as a woman but Miss A stay Korean (Eastern) with this song. I just love it that they stayed close to their roots!!

  • happy_slip

    I like the the MV’s overall feel, definitely.

    However, It makes me a little bit sad because I felt like I Don’t Need A Man basically confirmed how lukewarm most people’s response were to Touch; I loved that comeback and hoped that it would encourage them to explore that direction more because they pulled it off so well. Secondly, for a song touted as a tribute to Destiny’s Child’s brand of woman independence (to men), this song falls somewhat short. BGGG and GBB already emulated that, and the two (while I find them too similar for my taste) did the tribute better. 

    This is probably would be their weakest comeback for me. It’s understandable that they’ve come back to the concept that they rock the best, but they’ve done this thing better in the past (title-track and none title-track, by the way).

  • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

    What do you get when you take “Lean wit it, Rock wit it” choreography from the Franchise Boyz and “Independent Women” from Destiny Child, then mix them together…..Miss A – Don’t Need A Man

    JYP, stop high jacking

  • http://twitter.com/#!/swheekun swheekun

    Song has a good message but is overall pretty weak-sounding to me. It just kind of…. goes, without any real change between the verses and chorus (a problem that also plagued Wooyoung’s “Sexy Lady”). And Miss A being more dance-based than vocal-based isn’t helping, as the vocals are pretty one-note throughout. 

  • danahz

    It  annoys me how this song was written by JYP. The song has chorus was in a way mocking the idea of it. “I dont need a man” would be followed by “what” or “really”. The song could have mock the absurity of the thought of needing a man but then the verse makes it seems like the idea is still very foreign and off puting.

  • http://www.twitter.com/veiledheart veiledheart

    I NEED JYP to get these people some voice lessons. Their songs aren’t bad, but they’re so even that they’re boring. There is no change from one point of the song to the next.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

    I fully support any expressions of female empowerment. Support them with every bone in my body — but this feels like… Damn it, I can’t think of a proper term.
    WAIT; Merchandising. This feels like if someone got the idea to merchandise feminism.

    You might say Beyonce could have had this in mind when she made Independent Women, pretty much the template for these kinds of pop hits (and this song is virtually a mirror of it). However, there was one BIG, HUGE, HUMONGOUS difference between it and this.

    Beyonce didn’t make men the central focus — her song just said independent ladies didn’t need to be SECOND to men, or to be dependent on them. That they could be their own equally strong person. She barely mentions men, and only in passing. The rest of the song was focused exclusively on women and their capabilities and strengths. 

    Beyonce: “The shoes on my feet. I bought it. The clothes I’m wearing. I bought it. The rock I’m rocking. ‘Cause I depend on ME. Always 50/50 in relationships.”

    Maybe Independent Women felt more sincere since Beyonce was actually heavily involved in the writing. I don’t know who wrote this, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was JYP, himself. Either way, its one fatal flaw (for me) is that instead of placing the spotlight on strong women, it just keeps repeating that they don’t need a man, which leaves me thinking, ‘Ok… Are… you trying to convince ME, or the man in question, or ALL men, I don’t understand…?’

    You know what I respect so much about strong first wave feminist women? Men don’t even have to factor into their worth at all. Just listen to Rebel Girl from Bikini Kill. It’s all about the woman, HER strengths, HER great qualities. This song feels like it could’ve been a powerful feminist message (or at least as much as a Kpop song could be) — if only whoever wrote it focused more on the female empowerment and less on repeating that men aren’t needed. Take a cue from Beyonce or Donna Summer, it’s a lot more powerful when your message is more about highlighting the strength of women and not so much on trying to convince anyone that a man isn’t needed. Strong women are strong without ever having to bring men into the equation. 

    • 271828

      This song is pretty much the closest we can get to a feminist message in kpop with idols.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

        Oh man… I could literally write a treatise on this topic — but that would just veer completely away from this specific topic’s main point (this song).

        I’ll just say this: if selling records is most important, and not the message, then yes, this is the closest thing Kpop can get to a true feminist message — and that is fucking tragic.

        • WonderfulZingMin

          since when in kpop was the message more important than selling records?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

            Never — that isn’t the point. It’s that Kpop still sees fit to co-opt a feminist message to sell records without knowing anything about it. That is just a slap in the face to anyone who values the strength of those messages when delivered honestly and with knowledge and passion. I am not in a position, nor lay claim to the right to dictate what an entertainment company releases — but I’ll damn sure point out the hypocrisy when it’s right in front of me.

          • WonderfulZingMin

            it’s kpop, don’t take it so seriously. They talk about raping girs, cheating on girlfriends, having your doctor make you feel reeaal good..etc. xD

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

            You can take it less seriously if you choose. Don’t let my seriousness on the subject bum you out. There are a whole lot of things I’m not serious about (Halloween, old Saturday morning cartoons, Coming to America, Ratatouille), but feminism isn’t one of them. So I feel compelled to speak on it — but I would not ask, nor expect anyone else to subscribe to my feelings and beliefs. That would just be selfish. 

             

          • WonderfulZingMin

            I understand now, Thank you for making that clear. You have a very good way of expressing yourself. : )

      • illerz

         Yeah my thoughts exactly

    • CJux

      You are so right about the lyrics. Song is not just focused on men, it’s directed to them (instead of being directed to women, as it should be). The only part they address their female listeners is this: “If you trust men, what will you do when they leave you? / Are you jealous of me? / If you’re jealous, you lose” (First sentence is okay, but… why would they be jealous of you if you said you don’t make much money?)

      But compare it to Independent Women (Part II): “Hope you got the message ladies take control / Don’t depend on no man to give you what you want / Keep that in mind next time you hear this song”

      And here you have the difference between Beyoncé and JYP. The first supports them, the second antagonizes them. JYP’s Miss A don’t sell themselves ‘easily’; Beyoncé doesn’t sell herself PERIOD. And everything is 50/50 with her.

       “Strong feminist messages in music go back to days when Beyonce wasn’t even born. Back to days when Joan Baez and other artists bravely sang about equality when the majority of our American male population were chauvinist pigs that called independent women all sorts of vile things.”

      Agree, so much. The current stage of the music industry depresses me sometimes. We have too many people writing songs about girl power without having read anything about feminism in the first place. As a result, we have morons like the Pussycat Dolls founder saying his dolls are all about female empowerment.

    • illerz

       I am thinking we should not look this particular gift horse in the mouth because it really has to start somewhere. I am sure merchandising the naive sexuality of preteens had to start somewhere as well. I am going to accept this because my only thought is thank god. FINALLY. Let’s be real music in kpop is pure merchandising. Its about making a profit of the looks, talent or lack of, or looks/made-up-personality of idols. So if they wanna sell a bit of feminism for a change its welcomed as long as its done right. I’m sick of it being about males and how they are so needed for the basis of all things in a females world. How without them females would die or be completely useless. So it has to start attached to their desire to be able to live without a man before it can be just a desire to be their absolute best.

      A woman claiming she wants to stand on her own two feet is an independent. A woman claiming she wants to stand on her own two feets without a man or equal to a man or in-spite of men is a feminism.

      Soooooooooooooooo……
      It’s a start, let’s not ruin it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

        The problem is, it’s not a start. 

        Consider this: the ONLY reason Beyonce even had the leeway to write Independent Women was because of the work of a great deal of brave women who had the guts to write on women’s rights issues back when all it would get them is nasty comments and hate. We wouldn’t have Beyonce, Madonna or many of the modern pop stars without these women. 

        The main obstacle to real female empowerment messages in Kpop is that these “feminist messages” are coming from idols whose every statement, performance and lyric comes from the minds of men. All the directors of note are men, all but a slight few of the songwriters are men, the entertainment companies are all run by men. See the trend? I wonder right now, honestly, if a strong-willed Korean girl who wants to write songs and speak out on gender inequality in her country would even be heard — that is just wrong.

        2NE1 is a group I respect very much because a lot of their music comes from a place of female empowerment, not male bashing or placing too much emphasis on others instead of self. I like that, and think it is the right way to go — but if that message stopped selling records, would they tell YG to shove it and keep screaming female empowerment because they believe strongly in what they are doing and their message? More importantly, would they be ABLE to keep going without Teddy Park writing those messages into their songs?

        The start isn’t going to happen until someone starts caring more about the message than being a world famous idol. Somebody has to lay the groundwork in Kpop for real empowering feminist theory — not just sing a half-feminist message without knowing a God damn thing about the subject in order to sell records. Otherwise, all we’ll ever see from Kpop is a girl group come out with a song like this one every now and again — instead of women being in power positions in entertainment companies like Madonna was in Maverick, women directors expressing their artistic vision for Kpop artists, and more than just a handful (if that) of women songwriters who have the opportunity to be recognized for their work anywhere near the level of a Teddy Park, JYP or Shinsadong Tiger.

        • illerz

          Ok I get what you are saying in fact I completely understand it. But you are looking at it in a way that doesn’t allow for the fact that this could be a spark. That this could lead to more women or as you say men finding this profitable selling more of it.

          And I happen to believe media feeds society mentality. The reason why most 15 year olds think they are fat is because idols/magazines/models/t.v. are telling them so. And I think any change we want to be lasting has to start with kids. That’s my point of view.

           If men are pushing this idea because of profit I say let them for however long it lasts, maybe it can change some little girl’s point of view for the better. Because they’ve been pushing the other way for far too long.

           And sure having women stand up and write about this thing and DEMAND female equality is ideal but I DON’T think women in korean society are quite ready for that yet. I don’t think they are fed up yet. And if they are their culture states they should be feminine and docile and just DEAL with it.

          So in essence I am being optimistic in thinking this could jump start a trend in korea….that could then spark something. Because that is the korean way. They follow trends and some might stick or just revert to whatever they were doing before or on to the next thing. But sometimes I FEEL like the only way to change anything in korea is to make a trend of it. That the rest of the world might pat them on the back about which I feel is more likely to make it stick. Just because the men started it doesn’t mean women can’t take advantage of it and run with it. In essence take charge of the path this may take after the fact and OWN it. But I suppose your point is not to expect too much. Can’t help but hope though.

          SIDE NOTE: Besides in most societies we are constantly told how we need men to function and making a song that says I don’t need one would appeal to most women sick of being told JUST that. Surprised and yet not, that some man in korea didn’t think to profit off it sooner.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

            Like I said above, I could write a treatise on this subject, but I will refrain. I will say this, however:

            When has anyone, anywhere, EVER been ready for a radical shift in thinking and protocol? 

            When the second wave feminist movement gained steam, men lashed out at women as if they were somehow at fault for wanting such “abominable” things as equitable treatment in the work place, home and otherwise. When the civil rights movement gained steam, churches were firebombed, people were lynched, and black citizens of Montgomery were left taking private cabs in order to obtain fair treatment from public transport institutions that treated its black customers (more the 3/4ths its customer base) unequally. 

            There is no such thing as “ready yet.” If any of those courageous people had used that excuse, think what a different world we might be living in now.

          • illerz

            By ready yet I meant, there are not enough women in south korea sick of their cultural restriction to point that they fight back. This is obvious by the current status quo because as you say no one is ever ready yet when it comes to things like this.  Thus taking advantage of anything that might jump start this. Making it extremely prevalent or trendy might be the go to solution for the current status quo of women’s rights.

            Because like I said following trends is the korean way.

            But if the problem is that a man is what started it or is profiting from it in the beginning I AM ok with that. As long as it leads to something. Otherwise I would admit to being disappointed and my gut tells me it won’t go anywhere. But still I live with the optimistic point of view that it could make some bit of difference. Hopefully it will infiltrate the youth and they can start there. After-all the youth of korea is the future of korea. Making independent women cool (Even for profit) might be the key.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

            Like I said, I admire your optimism — but I, personally, cannot see someone profiting off of a feminist message in a drastically unfair system to females as anything but despicable. Even if I try. It just reminds me of those types that see hundreds of thirsty people and then jack the price of their water up to $5 or more. You’re making money off of the plight of others. I was taught my entire life that people who do that are deplorable. 

            By the way, there are already women in Korea that fight damn hard for the betterment of Korean women: http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/05/news/05iht-seoul.2.t.html 

            It’s just that NOBODY… FUCKING… LISTENS TO THEM… 

            Beyonce can make Independent Women because we live in the age of Title IX, when opportunities for women to play and coach sports at the collegiate level are plentiful, when women CAN be in power positions within companies (there still aren’t enough, but at least women can aspire to these positions). Women can even be on a Board of Directors for a Fortune 500 company, helping to decide the future of corporations. However, despite how far women have come in America, there is still a long way to go. Korea, meanwhile, is still miles behind that, but it isn’t for lack of trying.  

            Less hollow girl power anthems targeted at consumers, and more sincere female empowerment statements are needed for Korea. Especially if an artist is going to scream female empowerment on one single, and then go right back to dropping a feminist message to go to whichever new message their writers deign to have them cover. Consistency is needed so much more than a girl power message that is just going to get lost as soon as a group moves onto the next promotional cycle.

          • illerz

             There we can agree, if its done consistently it really could make a difference, if people see something often enough they begin to accept it without realizing it. I guess I really am banking on it being a trend or sparking something. But if they do just turn around and go back to singing about a man is their entire world I might scream to death. -.- I understand the point is that if it is being done for profit then the message can be easily sway and thus pointless.

            Girl can hope. While I do agree with you I am going to just cling to hope for now. Ha. See where this goes.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

            Fair enough. There isn’t supposed to be a right or wrong on these issues if both sides are coming from a point of view that favors equal and fair treatment of others. If you’re concerned about being right, then it is already more about you than it is about the issue. Conversation on an important topic will do more good than fighting until someone “wins,” so just knowing both sides understand the situation is more than enough.

  • illerz

     Can honestly say this is one of the first time I loved a female (group) kpop song or a kpop song in general in its entirety. Meaning choreograph, lyrics, outfits, and beat. I loved it. Because I love the simplicity and I loved the message <3 even thinking of buying it for my pod. Miss A might actually turn me into a fan :)

    Usually I like a song not the MV, or like the beat hate the lyrics. Or like the beat and the lyrics but hate the underlining message. But miss A gets an A :)!

  • Fatricia Fatlegs (Trish Okeke)

    It is an okay song but it’s really boring to watch in a live performance

    • Gaya_SB

      I was thinking the same, actually. I’d love it if they didn’t adhere so strictly to the choreo and just freestyled their way through. Mixing things up would be the best way to keep the stage interesting.

  • eve92

    I think it’s not about feminism at all, not in the sense of woman becoming independent. i think they are talking about (or against) a certain type of woman in a relationship we ALL know and watch in every kdrama. The damsel in distress, the woman who looks for a good catch and cannot be without a man. Which, I think, is a pretty foreign concept in Korea and even in the west. A man not married at age 50? No big deal! A woman not married at age 50? Automatically more pathetic. I do not know how often I have heard my girlfrinds bitching about the fact that a boy didn’t pay for their dinner and that is exactly the kind of attitude Miss A is talking about. They are talking about relationships between man and woman and how a woman not depending on her man is the one who can be proud of herself. If you want to be an equal, treat yourself as an equal in a relationship and pull your own weight. I don’t want to need my boyfriend for things like money or even as an ego boost. I just want him because I WANT him (if that makes any sense at all :P).

  • samlun100

    My only favorite girlgroup is MISS A.
    I love this song since it can be related to any woman including me and it puts me in a good mood every time I listen to it.