• http://twitter.com/Uranium222 Uranium

    SM just solidifies the claim that KPOP is manufactured and uninspired.

    • mos lore

      no sm solidifies that they are  manufactured and uninspired.

      even nugu companys dont do these much remakes

      • Streby

        Precisely this, SM knows that their loyal fans will buy anything they make which is why they make crappy covers and call them remakes. 

        • kelliusmaximus

          Except SM clearly never expected many of the loyal fans to buy it and when they did, they gave the money to charity. And they literally called this a cover.

          They don’t make remakes either way. They buy demos, and sometimes the demos have been sold to other artists simultaneously.

          • Streby

            Whatever their reasons may be, SM’s quality control really has been going down. 

            This may just be for a single performance and therefore can be written off but just look at their recent releases, I’ve been throughly disappointed with how much money they have been spending on everything but how little quality there is to show for it.

          • Haibara Christie

            Actually, If I want to be “devil’s advocate,” I would say that SM is in reality the mark of quality, because they always seem to buy and release songs that other people thought were good as well.

            And Kelliusmaximus, you’re absolutely right. SM doesn’t release remakes, they release foreign developed music (a song taken from a demo is NOT a remake.) What we should actually be bothering SM about is not the fact that they release music that was “released by someone else first,” but the fact that they have slowly started to make Kpop un-Korean.

      • straighttohelvetica

        True that. Which really sucks because as (arguably) the largest of the big three, SM has the biggest impact on how k-pop is perceived internationally. One thing I noticed with Psy’s popularity is that every U.S. news article I read about the k-pop industry always examined the SM method and SM idols. Had Psy been with SM, I don’t think Gangnam Style would have been a lead single.

        • http://twitter.com/amis_et_amour Lydia P

          THANK YOU. Someone who noticed that too. I remember reading an article about how kpop was manufactued and it lacks depth, and the only company mentioned was SM. No mentions of IU’s self-written songs, or any mention of G-Dragon or Big Bang anywhere. Not even any mentions of other companies. So the “cookie cutter method” of making idol groups is aknowleged as the norm to people in the West who aren’t kpop fans.

  • straighttohelvetica

    Laziness combined with complacency has created the SM we have today. And as long as their groups keep breaking sales records, scoring all-kills and winning awards (thanks to devoted, if somewhat misguided fans) then we’ll keep seeing SM groups recycling and covering pop songs produced elsewhere. 

    What really annoys me most about these covers isn’t even the fact that they exist, it’s some fans reaction to them. “Western music sucks except this song which is sung by my oppa who does a better job of performing it than the original singer who sucks because they’re from the West.” The fail logic makes my head hurt.

  • straighttohelvetica

    Laziness combined with complacency has created the SM we have today. And as long as their groups keep breaking sales records, scoring all-kills and winning awards (thanks to devoted, if somewhat misguided fans) then we’ll keep seeing SM groups recycling and covering pop songs produced elsewhere. 

    What really annoys me most about these covers isn’t even the fact that they exist, it’s some fans reaction to them. “Western music sucks except this song which is sung by my oppa who does a better job of performing it than the original singer who sucks because they’re from the West.” The fail logic makes my head hurt.

  • http://twitter.com/blondetoria 市丸 海燕

    The translated lyrics are also alike the original lyrics to add on. OTL

  • http://yesbabyohyea.blogspot.com/ Nyan

    spectrum needs more touch up. as much as i love the ‘cover’, it would be so much better if sm actually takes time to bring  out its best and do better than it.

    next time, if you hear something nice from sme, be suspicious and look up! who knows maybe it’s a cover!

  • BishieAddict

    There were a few dbsk songs that were bought from other people. My favourite is ” Hey Girl”. Aww. I like Shinee’s Lucifer. I didn’t know it was a cover.

    • FranFOD

      I don’t think Lucifer itself is a cover, just some of the songs on the album

  • Vampie

    I was a fan of the original song before SM Performance released their cover so I was more than a little put out by it. But not surprised because I’ve come to expect nothing less from SM after the steady decline of their quality of music in the past few years. Their complacency is obvious, especially now that the smaller Ents are putting their best foot forward and churning out serious competitors. And younger ones to boot, which we all know is part of the mass appeal of kpop and K-ent in general.

    The sad thing is that the repetitive, regurgitative nature of SM’s current style isn’t going to go away any time soon because no matter what utter poop, pardon my French, they throw at their fans, they eat it up. Fans see it as supporting their “unnies and oppas” and don’t consider the fact that they deserve better than whatever SM feels like sending their way. Until it starts hitting them where it hurts, in the bank account, nothing is going to change.

  • haiitsvi

    When Dancing Queen came out I was a bit confused since it was apparently recorded in 2008 while Duffy’s version also came out that year and gained popularity. There was definitely something fishy going on. And when I first heard Spectrum I was really loving it. After discovering the original version I fell in love with it even more.
    It’s pretty sad how SM’s best releases tend to be remakes. I love SM and am bit of an SM stan because I can always expect consistency and (arguably) quality production from them, but this kind of stuff really bothers me. What they should do is let their artists do some of their own writing.

    And producers should stop selling their songs to Korean entertainment companies. If this Hallyu wave thing is as big as many Kpop fans believe, it’s only going to get worse once Kpop gets more international, especially with the Internet and how quickly information can travel nowadays.

  • muggle87

    sm needs to step up cause other companies are really stepping up their game and giving out some really good songs.

  • muggle87

    sm needs to step up cause other companies are really stepping up their game and giving out some really good songs.

  • muggle87

    sm needs to step up cause other companies are really stepping up their game and giving out some really good songs.

  • muggle87

    sm needs to step up cause other companies are really stepping up their game and giving out some really good songs.

  • muggle87

    sm needs to step up cause other companies are really stepping up their game and giving out some really good songs.

  • muggle87

    sm needs to step up cause other companies are really stepping up their game and giving out some really good songs.

  • noirainbow

    SM is one of the big three in Korea, so they should be able to find some talented composers to compose songs made specifically for SM’s groups. 

  • noirainbow

    SM is one of the big three in Korea, so they should be able to find some talented composers to compose songs made specifically for SM’s groups. 

  • kelliusmaximus

    It was just a gayo special stage, who cares? Can’t expect them to invest money into it when it’s just for one 5 minute performance. In fact, I’m surprised they bothered recording new vocals at all, the rest of the dance was a mix of other songs (not covered by SM). It’s obvious this was never supposed to be a proper song, just something to dance to, and considering they donated the money earned from digital sales to charity, they weren’t expecting to earn from it. 

    Not that they aren’t lazy in other areas, I just don’t think there’s an issue with this.

    • PZ

      It wouldn’t matter as much, if SM weren’t repeat offenders of buying the rights to other songs.

  • UncleFan

    So let me get this straight.. you LIKED SM’s Spectrum, but then you went looking for reasons to NOT like it, and finally you talked yourself into hating it?

    You weren’t “duped”, Cynthia, you were entertained. Don’t blame SM because you can’t help but spoil your own fun. K-Pop songs are made in a factory just like sausages. If you can’t deal with the nasty realities of sausage production, don’t look inside the factory!

  • FranFOD

    I really don’t see what the fuss is all about. SM had no intention of promoting Spectrum, they just released it as a side note to a Gayo Daejun performance as a way to supposedly raise some funds for charity. 

    On the matter of song purchasing, it’s an age old practice that is hardly new to K-pop or the music industry in general. So what if SHINee wasn’t the first to release “Juliette”? It’s not as if Corbin Bleu actually composed the song himself, so what does it matter if he got to it first? Take a look at most american pop artist’s album backgrounds and you’ll see that most of their songs weren’t written by their own artists or producers

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2QMGRN7VFTBNTBDZCYVSDIQCHM Catarina

    This was one song for one music show. Releasing it was just a bonus for the fans… The goal was showcasing the performance/dance not so much the vocal talent or the song itself. They used this song to compliment the dance stage so why make a big deal out of it?

    You say yourself that you liked the song and suddenly you don’t like it anymore just because it’s a remix/cover? Sorry but I can’t understand that.

    • Tanya Joshi

      I think that if the author wanted to make a point about SM they could’ve used another song because this was a really bad choice… I mean, I think they’re called “SM The PERFORMANCE” for a reason: they are performers. So to use this as an example of “the last straw” was a bad move.
      And I agree, it doesn’t matter if this song was just a cover. Someone here made a point that there’s too many artists, and not enough composers, so what can you do with that? There’s really not too many original ideas left for the world of pop songs anyways, so they do the best with what they can. And also someone else said that they’re selling the idols and not really the song…
      If you like the song, it doesn’t matter if it was a remake or not; as long as you know where it came from and who to actually give credit to, if SM did a good job of introducing that type of music to Korea’s younger generation then who cares. Besides, you can like both versions anyways.
      And I understand where everyone comes from when they call SM lazy, but seriously, it would be intensely hard to manage ALL their artists and still make each and every one of their groups individual. Hell, are any of the idol groups really original anymore? Because they all look the same to me anyways… It’s their personality that makes them original, at least to me. Even though some members are assigned a certain role in a group in terms of personality, those members are obviously like that themselves because there’s no other way to successfully pull of the “funny person” if you’re not actually funny. <- I realize that probably made no sense…
      It would be nice if the idols themselves were given freedom with songs, but right now SM doesn't really see that as a good business strategy, so we'll just have to wait until "original compositions" become more of a trend for pop in Korea (I hope you get what I mean by that…). And I read somewhere here that someone thinks that SM's artists don't work as hard as they should, and sorry if I misinterpreted what they were trying to get at, but SM's artists are worked to the BONE, so people shouldn't criticize the artists…
      People like K-Pop to get away from the (this is just my opinon) sluttiness (sorry, couldn't find a better word because I had a brain fart, so think of some better word when you're reading this, haha) of Western music, and sooner or later I end up getting more invested in the PEOPLE rather than their music.
      Besides, from what I've noticed, in GENERAL SM's more famous idols are more of performers than singers (other than Kyuhyun, Changmin and the like), so they do a pretty damn good job of promoting them that way. Just take SM as it is, and get over it.
      Sorry, I was ranting and I'm not a 100% sure that I really even made sense, haha.
      Either way, their dance WAS THE BEST, I don't know how many times I watched it; I wish I could dance like them… (EUNHYUK!!!) 
      Okay, done! :D

  • lokifairy

    They never said it would be a “remake”. They said they would release a Korean cover of the Original.

  • https://twitter.com/exoplanetofbutchbitches EXOPlanet_ofthe_ButchBitches

    I have a feeling that SME is just really lazy. Not even the artists it promotes work as hard as it should. I think they are getting too comfortable because fans are really stupid enough to bulk buy their crap instead of letting SME fail from their half-assed attempts at making music and idol groups.

    • kuma1510

       I love to see you buy all EXO’s album vers in the future :)

  • canistillhaveadream2

    That “Spectrum” thing was the one that I enjoyed the most that night, and honestly, I was expecting some real praise on it from Seoulbeats. But turns out, the reality is completely the opposite, lol.
    SM made this “cover”(not even a real “remake”, to begin with) for just one show, but still, they bothered to release the cover song officially when they obviously don’t even have an interest in actually promoting it. And you’re saying SM is lazy, huh?
    (I sometimes wonder why Seoulbeats is always so judgmental, skeptical, or even negative. I mean, are these writers really like that, or…just pretending to be so because they have to create “critical” articles as some serious critics anyways? Sorry if this sounds a little bit offensive, but yeah, sometimes I do wonder…)

    • k_db

      Well this is an OP-Ed site, isnt it implied that all articles were be fairly judgemental?

      • canistillhaveadream2

        You do know what I’m talking about but still pretend to not know it. 
        Being judgmental and being overly and unnecessarily judgmental are not the same thing. (Now you’re satisfied with my comment being more exact, huh?) And I have my own reasons why I sometimes consider them overly judgmental.

        • k_db

          Splitting Hairs.  I’d rather read an article with an extreme stance than a neutral point.

          • canistillhaveadream2

            Dude, I absolutely have no interest in whether or not you prefer an extreme stance over a neutral point or whatever. Why are you even telling me about your preference? I mean, who are you?

            I was basically talking to/about the writers, as a reader here, and then suddenly some complete stranger came over to me and talked about her preference when I don’t even know who this person is. This is bizarre……

          • canistillhaveadream2

            Dude, I absolutely have no interest in whether or not you prefer an extreme stance over a neutral point or whatever. Why are you even telling me about your preference? I mean, who are you?

            I was basically talking to/about the writers, as a reader here, and then suddenly some complete stranger came over to me and talked about her preference when I don’t even know who this person is. This is bizarre……

          • canistillhaveadream2

            Dude, I absolutely have no interest in whether or not you prefer an extreme stance over a neutral point or whatever. Why are you even telling me about your preference? I mean, who are you?

            I was basically talking to/about the writers, as a reader here, and then suddenly some complete stranger came over to me and talked about her preference when I don’t even know who this person is. This is bizarre……

          • k_db

            Is this your first time here?

          • k_db

            Is this your first time here?

          • canistillhaveadream2

            A bizarre question from a bizarre person……

          • k_db

            I don’t know how you can call me bizarre when you don’t even know how the comment section works. You comment, if someone wants to reply, they do.  None of us know each other.  We just discuss with each other. If you’re “weirded out” by it, it’s probably best you don’t comment.

          • canistillhaveadream2

            If you were me, you too would understand what the problem is.

            1. You pretended not to get my point in the first place. (Just read my first comment to you, again.)

            2. You told me about your preference, saying, “I’d rather read…” Well, that sentence really sounds bizarre to me and forces me to reply like,  “Okay… Then read whatever you want. But don’t tell me about it since I don’t care……”

    • kelliusmaximus

      “That “Spectrum” thing was the one that I enjoyed the most that night”

      +1 it was really damn good, I’m sad the article that got written about it was a silly overreaction like this one. I would’ve liked to see something written on the actual dance, which slayed.

  • myloveisDRC

    What people need to realize, and I asked SB to explore this topic months ago, is that a song that utilizes a demo track or samples another song =/= remake.

    • this9

      This, but don’t expect facts at Seoulbeats. I hate to defend SM but this article is so wrong, none of SM’s releases are “borrowed” because SM buys everything, Run Devil Run isn’t a Kesha song, Kesha just sang the demo track, EXO’s Angel isn’t a remake, and if two artists buy the same song from a composer, then the two songs aren’t remakes. Michael Mind Project’s 2011 release Ready or Not isn’t a remake of SHINee’s 2010 Ready or Not, for example. Fine if the writer doesn’t like that SM buys music from western songwriters, but she should know that a lot of kpop songs aren’t written by someone from the artists company but are bought by the company from out-house Korean songwriters just like SM does. Are those companies lazy too?

      • kelliusmaximus

        I don’t know why nobody seems to understand this. It’s just more obvious with SM because a) songs can be sold twice for promotion within Asia and the west separately, and b) they have way more songs than any other company so they have more need to buy them

  • Jaclyn

    A bit over the top considering this was for one performance. Suprised they actually even released it, and they also donated the money to charity so they didn’t even properly profit from it.

  • theskyewu

    I have no problem with the songs based off of demos because the demos aren’t official releases and they were just there for a guide (the lyrics usually don’t have a lot of effort put into it).
    When they’re based off of demos I don’t feel “duped” because the demos are all always low quality (one take, no production) and weren’t ever meant to be “released”.

    I can see your beef with “Spectrum” and “Dancing Queen”, but as many people have pointed out, “Spectrum” was never meant to be promoted.
    (Also, since it’s Interscope Records who will be handling SNSD’s next American album, this might be a clue to SM using such a recent song.  You’ll think “hey, I’ve heard this before!” and go check out Zedd.  Zedd gets some free publicity and so does Interscope.  Then Interscope is in your radar and you check out their other artists…)

    I feel SM isn’t getting lazy because they do a great way of redoing most of the songs they buy that actually have official releases by other artists (“Mirotic”, “Juliette”)

    I think if anyone should get yelled out, it’s the copyright holders!  Sure SM buys songs, but the copyright holders are the ones who offer up the songs for sale even if they’ve been done by other artists!

  • http://www.m-rated.tumblr.com/ Michelle Chin

    Perhaps, instead of griping about how spectrum is such a turn off wont it be more productive to try to discuss on how SM and other companies try to come up with something with a streak of originality? But the problem is everything’s been beaten to death in pop music so it’s kinda hard to hard to grasp what’s even original.

  • http://www.m-rated.tumblr.com/ Michelle Chin

    Perhaps, instead of griping about how spectrum is such a turn off wont it be more productive to try to discuss on how SM and other companies try to come up with something with a streak of originality? But the problem is everything’s been beaten to death in pop music so it’s kinda hard to hard to grasp what’s even original.

  • k_db

    I always enjoy shit-stirring articles like these.

    The wank generated is hilarious.

  • shannie4888

    I haven’t even listened to it yet, but I’ll just say that if Lee Soo Man thinks that the new Hollywood will be in Asia based on this business approach, then he definitely needs to get his head checked. 

    Kpop is already too manufactured as it is. Is SM really getting to a place where they just put out remakes/covers of already made songs? Forget the fact its not going to be promoted. Aside from this, SM already have way too many songs that are remakes. As the forefront talent agency of Kpop, it just makes the genre look as manufactured as outsiders think it is. 

    SM needs to allow their idols to develop musically by emphasizing the teaching of production, composition, and the arrangement of music. Obviously if they’re that adamant about saving money, they should find trainees they can turn into multi-talented idols, similar to G-Dragon, Junhyung, etc. 

    • Black_Plague

      Note – Lee Soo Man isn’t the CEO though and is more of a shareholder and managing overseas-related activities. If there’s someone’s head to drop a dumbbell on for SM’s current rubbish, it’s Ahn Young Min, the current SM CEO, who took over in 2010. 

      • shannie4888

        I know Lee Soo Man is not the CEO. Most Kpop fans, at least the ones who care enough to read even when it doesn’t involve their idols, know that Lee Soo Man is not the CEO of SM. 

        He is however, the face of the company to the media and he very proudly stated that he won’t have to worry about Hollywood, because the new Hollywood will be in Asia. This is why I mentioned him, and not the CEO. 

      • shannie4888

        I know Lee Soo Man is not the CEO. Most Kpop fans, at least the ones who care enough to read even when it doesn’t involve their idols, know that Lee Soo Man is not the CEO of SM. 

        He is however, the face of the company to the media and he very proudly stated that he won’t have to worry about Hollywood, because the new Hollywood will be in Asia. This is why I mentioned him, and not the CEO. 

  • canistillhaveadream2

    @kelliusmaximus (This is a reply to “kelliusmaximus”. I guess I made some stupid mistake while I was writing this, and therefore, my reply now appears HERE, not on the right place way down below there, lol. Sorry.)

    Yeah. As I said, I was expecting some praise but this is the complete opposite of it… And I was actually surprised at the whole thing wondering when exactly these busy SM people prepared for this high-quality performance so secretly while doing their other things. (You know, like preparing for SNSD’s new album, for instance, and many other things that we wouldn’t really even know.) But still, this article argues SM is ‘lazy”……

  • Streby

    “I just don’t like feeling impressed by changes in SM’s sound only to discover that they aren’t SM’s sound at all.”
    Lets face it, they are too confident that only their faces will sell because they really don’t really seem to be putting any effort into creativity or quality. 

    • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

       Well, in SM’s defense, the past has proven to them that they can become a huge company with tons of profit by only selling their faces and not worrying too much about creativity. It can be hard to prove to a company that they should change their ways when their current way is making them a ton of money.

      • Streby

        This will work for a while, and sure, its bringing in results, but with so much competition from all angles and SM’s ambition to become a ‘global company’, their artists are investing more and more time abroad, hence not showing up enough in their home country. 

        It is likely that if they dont really bring up their quality, their title of being the number 1 profit making company will be taken from them.  

        • takasar1

          as long as they have korea, japan and 1/7 of china in the bag, then i highly doubt their profitability will decrease or be overtaken. i highly doubt yg can do anything serious stateside and they will always be playing second fiddle to SM in asia. new kpop fans in asia are emerging every day, the market is far from saturated and as long as sm can bring in more new fans than annoy old fans, it should be safe

          • Streby

            I don’t think one contender can take on SM but it might just be split profits between the rest. They are really safe for now and to be honest, kpop is more like a fad for most people and they are obsessed with it for a bit but then it wears off. 

          • Haibara Christie

            All SM really needs is Japan.

            I mean, let’s face it, if you compare Japan’s and Korea’s music industries, it’s like comparing David and Goliath (Japan being the latter in physical size). Japan is a gold mine, and SM is quite smart for trying to achieve it. China is beneficial because of their sheer numbers, and Korea is even more useless because of the rampant piracy. SM, as much as we all hate them 90% of the time, knows exactly what it’s doing.

        • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

           I completely agree with that. Especially as Korea gets tired of Idol bands. I think I can already see more people wanting idols that can write their own music, or are proven to be talented in some way or the other. If SM doesn’t eventually change their ways, people are eventually going to grow tired of SM’s manufactured way of producing cookie cutter super model bands.

          Knowing SM’s like of producing the highest profit, I think they eventually will change, but I don’t know if that will be on time to increase the quality of their pop bands. They might just wait until solo artists become the popular thing again. (That thought makes me sad though, I don’t want to see the idol bands end. I like them.)

          • Streby

            It all happens in cycles, if the soloists take over now, in a few years people will tire of them and idols will come back.  

            But the bar has definitely been raised and you can see people wanting more from their favourite idols, I mean just going on stage and lip synching isn’t enough anymore, you have to be a terrible actor in a drama and also do a ton of appearances, etcetera, and writing your own music is a definite plus point.

            You can see that they tried the same formula that they did with Super Junior on Exo and though they are successful, the scale to which SM expected clearly didn’t happen. They either should realize the same formula won’t work forever or they will lose their much coveted position in the market. 

          • Streby

            It all happens in cycles, if the soloists take over now, in a few years people will tire of them and idols will come back.  

            But the bar has definitely been raised and you can see people wanting more from their favourite idols, I mean just going on stage and lip synching isn’t enough anymore, you have to be a terrible actor in a drama and also do a ton of appearances, etcetera, and writing your own music is a definite plus point.

            You can see that they tried the same formula that they did with Super Junior on Exo and though they are successful, the scale to which SM expected clearly didn’t happen. They either should realize the same formula won’t work forever or they will lose their much coveted position in the market. 

          • Streby

            It all happens in cycles, if the soloists take over now, in a few years people will tire of them and idols will come back.  

            But the bar has definitely been raised and you can see people wanting more from their favourite idols, I mean just going on stage and lip synching isn’t enough anymore, you have to be a terrible actor in a drama and also do a ton of appearances, etcetera, and writing your own music is a definite plus point.

            You can see that they tried the same formula that they did with Super Junior on Exo and though they are successful, the scale to which SM expected clearly didn’t happen. They either should realize the same formula won’t work forever or they will lose their much coveted position in the market. 

  • VLF218

    It’s kind of upsetting.  SM is just getting lazy because they are getting waaaay over confidant  

  • RainieNight

    Why so worked up? It was for ONE performance, which makes me think that SM the Performance isn’t even technically a subgroup. Why bother wasting funds for an original composition that would only be used for one Gayo Daejun performance? And apparently all the revenue made from it are going to charity anyway.

    Music is music to me, so it doesn’t really matter where it came from as long as I like it.

  • fanimnida

    All of this outrage over one performance? For as long as humans have been creating music people have been copying it and putting their own spin on it. Do you hate on the New York Philharmonic for ‘remaking’ a Bach song? It’s the same principle. SM paid for the rights to the songs so their artists can put their own spin on it. If it was 2NE1 or a similar non-SM group doing a remake would you have the same outrage, Cynthia? 
    I love my SM groups and if I (and hundreds of other fans) want to spend the money I earn on a song bought from an outside songwriting company that’s my prerogative. 

  • fanimnida

    All of this outrage over one performance? For as long as humans have been creating music people have been copying it and putting their own spin on it. Do you hate on the New York Philharmonic for ‘remaking’ a Bach song? It’s the same principle. SM paid for the rights to the songs so their artists can put their own spin on it. If it was 2NE1 or a similar non-SM group doing a remake would you have the same outrage, Cynthia? 
    I love my SM groups and if I (and hundreds of other fans) want to spend the money I earn on a song bought from an outside songwriting company that’s my prerogative. 

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      Did you even read the article? The point is that the author isn’t upset over it just being one time…

      • fanimnida

        Yeah, I did. It just seems to me that the author feels guilty about liking something that isn’t original to the singer. 

    • PrincelyLuna

      wow … you just have to drag other artists into your rant rite? just stick to ranting about sm or those who criticise them. period.

      • fanimnida

        Right*. Yeah, I did and I’m sorry. I clicked on this article expecting to see balanced criticism with an occasional “hey the dance was pretty awesome” and maybe a “they donated the money made from the remake to charity” but all I saw was “SM is lazy”. Rage mode was activated and I should have thought it out.

  • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

    SM needs to buy previously made songs to keep them fresh, I kind of think. Most of the time when I think a song sounds like it isn’t something SM would make…well, it isn’t. They have so many artists, and only so many composers. It’s really hard to make different music for all of those artists.

    That being said, buying music isn’t their only option. They should just hire more composers. Or even let the SM idols who are interested try their hand at composing more often. I mean, it’s only when JYJ’s worked outside of SM (with Avex or CJES) that we’ve seen they’re capable composers. I’m convinced the idols aren’t given a chance to show what they can do.

  • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

    The responses here are seriously making me headdesk. All of you are saying that the author overreacted for “one performance”. You completely missed the point of the article. The point of the article is that it isn’t just one performance – it’s many, many remakes. I know a lot of Kpop fans that are frustrated with it, actually. I’m glad SB wrote an article about it.

    • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

       I have come to the conclusion that most people online don’t bother to take the time to actually read. They must have developed this strange superpower to only see and read every third sentence, because most complaints could be solved if they took the time and intelligence to actually READ the words that were written and understand their meaning.

    • myloveisDRC

      The problem with the point of this article is that it’s wrong. I wouldn’t say that if this truly was an Op-Ed based in fact, but it isn’t. SM hasn’t actually released all that many remakes, or, depending on what that means to you, as many as the author wants everyone to believe. 

      If Seoulbeats writers want to tackle topics of this caliber then they better do their research before they drop terms without understanding their weight (or lack thereof) and call out whole companies.

  • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

    “And honestly, if it gets to the point where I can find the exact same
    song with the exact same quality or better in a genre of music I can
    actually understand, why bother venturing to K-pop in the first place?”

    That is one of the reasons I have a hard time getting into SM bands. If you’re going to do remakes at least bother to make it sound different. Getting into foreign music takes a lot more time, money and effort. Please make it worth it over just going with my own country’s music.

  • Deabak29

    This quotes i found somewhere in the internet stated that “SM not producing song, They buy song” and this is true.. by the way, i like SM The Ballad because one of their member which is JINO.. he supposed to debut with EXO but somehow till now his last appearance was with SM The Ballad..  (:

  • krysti723

    just listened to zedd’s ver and i have 2 say sm ver sounds ten tons better.
    can’t  go thru all the reason but here’s two:
     sm ver is  mastered better. The edm sounds sounds much  more powerful  and alive in the  sm ver.  Sorry but  the eng ver sounds like loud noise. The guy’s voice is so loud i can barely hear the beat when he sings.
    2 i think the way the beat structured it requires an unison of singers to make the song more powerful other than one guy with heavy auto-tune that sounds like he is in pain!. 

     sm perf.’s ver sounds epic 

  • yuki kokoro

    “And honestly, if it gets to the point where I can find the exact same song with the exact same quality or better in a genre of music I can actually understand, why bother venturing to K-pop in the first place?”

    Because it’s only a small percentage! At least, I hope so…

    I think SM’s problem is that they sell pretty dancing idols so they don’t care about music. They care about profit. I LOVE Kenzie’s songs and many SM artists can compose so SM is not totally lost on me but I still feel bad about it.

  • yuki kokoro

    “And honestly, if it gets to the point where I can find the exact same song with the exact same quality or better in a genre of music I can actually understand, why bother venturing to K-pop in the first place?”

    Because it’s only a small percentage! At least, I hope so…

    I think SM’s problem is that they sell pretty dancing idols so they don’t care about music. They care about profit. I LOVE Kenzie’s songs and many SM artists can compose so SM is not totally lost on me but I still feel bad about it.

  • yuki kokoro

    “And honestly, if it gets to the point where I can find the exact same song with the exact same quality or better in a genre of music I can actually understand, why bother venturing to K-pop in the first place?”

    Because it’s only a small percentage! At least, I hope so…

    I think SM’s problem is that they sell pretty dancing idols so they don’t care about music. They care about profit. I LOVE Kenzie’s songs and many SM artists can compose so SM is not totally lost on me but I still feel bad about it.

  • Corin phillip

    Ii get a headache everytime ii come here…Ii dont get why everyone hating though..Don’t like SM’s music..dont listen..they never shoved a gun to your face to listen, thing is the getting more money than anyone else here,you think your fighting over it, is gonna change the fact that SM buys song,their music sells whether or not their lazy. Im not a SM stan but im saying that everyone buys music,even american artist, none of you seemed to care when people buy songs in the western world so why care now?? Again ii say if you don’t like don’t listen

  • Corin phillip

    Ii get a headache everytime ii come here…Ii dont get why everyone hating though..Don’t like SM’s music..dont listen..they never shoved a gun to your face to listen, thing is the getting more money than anyone else here,you think your fighting over it, is gonna change the fact that SM buys song,their music sells whether or not their lazy. Im not a SM stan but im saying that everyone buys music,even american artist, none of you seemed to care when people buy songs in the western world so why care now?? Again ii say if you don’t like don’t listen

  • Corin phillip

    Another thing too, Exo’s angel wasn’t bought, had you done your research better you would have known that that J.Lewis made that song as a guide track and composed it for exo, So thats song belongs to Exo and Exo only. Smh

  • sakurahae

    I had  a similar conversation to this with a friend of mine on tumblr.

    basically she pointed out all the remakes that shinee had made, and how that made her feel like she shouldn’t like shinee.

    my argument was that idols aren’t the same as artists, im not saying that idols cant be talented or produce their own product like an artist can, only that they aren’t marketed like an artist, in that what is being sold isn’t the product, what is being sold to us is the idol and their image. 

    Thus i feel like holding an idol group or management company to same standards is only gonna give you a headache. There is no need to feel guilty for like a song that has been bought from someone else as opposed to composed directly for an idol group.

    As long as you enjoy it, why does it matter if its original work, as long as it was copied legally? in the end its all pop music. 

    I just, dont get it. why people have all these expectations for idols, and then get offended when they dont meet them. 

    Can’t you just enjoy something without worrying about it being manufactured, or fake, or copied, or bought? as long as its done legally.

    *sigh* but maybe since i look at the music as something im purchasing in order to get to know my idols better, rather than something im buying as the end product, i have a different mindset than most. 

    *shrug*

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/R4FK77EGE7DLCKAXKHB5I6DO5Q Felicia Y

      i get what you mean, and i have the same mindset. but i think what the author’s trying to get at here isn’t the “fakeness” but that SM isn’t allowing its idols to grow as artists because they really are, when all’s said and done, talented enough to be artists with musical legitimacy and SM is really stripping them of that with its laziness and profit-minded production cycles.  they know we’re still going to be here whether or not the music’s good. :/

      • sakurahae

        you’ve got a point, but I guess thats not what i read inot the article ^^; it seemed to me, that they were more offended by the use use of remakes period rather than that it was affecting the artists themselves. but maybe i just read it wrong haha~

  • http://twitter.com/sujumyeolchi strawberry myeolchi

    the majority of these comments are making me feel like i’m losing brain cells, so forgive me if this has been brought up.  
    I’m not going to dispute that SM’s pretty lazy (in this case, it could be considered strategic marketing, but I think with the box MVs and all that it’s easy to call them lazy).  That said, the reason Spectrum doesn’t bother me as a remake, even as the straw that breaks the camel’s back, is because this was a dance performance specifically for Gayo.  The SNSD one was simply unnecessary (if SONEs liked it, more power to them, though), but composing a whole new song for a performance that is meant to highlight SM’s dancers seems…I don’t know if “inefficient” is the right word.  I’d probably be more annoyed if this was meant to show up Kyuhyun’s singing talents or something, but they chose a song to highlight dancers, and did a damn good job of it. 

    “I’m tired of feeling duped” — I can’t help you there, dude. Try listening to Busker Busker or something. This is K-pop. Everything’s a sham.

  • http://twitter.com/sujumyeolchi strawberry myeolchi

    the majority of these comments are making me feel like i’m losing brain cells, so forgive me if this has been brought up.  
    I’m not going to dispute that SM’s pretty lazy (in this case, it could be considered strategic marketing, but I think with the box MVs and all that it’s easy to call them lazy).  That said, the reason Spectrum doesn’t bother me as a remake, even as the straw that breaks the camel’s back, is because this was a dance performance specifically for Gayo.  The SNSD one was simply unnecessary (if SONEs liked it, more power to them, though), but composing a whole new song for a performance that is meant to highlight SM’s dancers seems…I don’t know if “inefficient” is the right word.  I’d probably be more annoyed if this was meant to show up Kyuhyun’s singing talents or something, but they chose a song to highlight dancers, and did a damn good job of it. 

    “I’m tired of feeling duped” — I can’t help you there, dude. Try listening to Busker Busker or something. This is K-pop. Everything’s a sham.

    • Tanya Joshi

      I totally agree! People keep on criticizing SM for it’s laziness and I get why – I mean, there’s a REALLY noticeable pattern in all of their songs/videos; but when you look at most of SM’s big idols, they’re mostly dancers (which is why I like SM [male] artists, because honestly, my bias in idol groups ALWAYS ends up being the main dancer, like Eunhyuk… And if a girl idol can dance well [as in, not the annoying cutesy-but-actually-sexy moves], like Hyoyeon and Gahee [I know Gahee’s not an SM artist, but y’know], I respect them more). And this is REALLY obvious in the remake/copy of Spectrum, like you mentioned.
      And honestly, in my opinion people need to get over the fact that SM usually uses boxes… Well, maybe that’s just me because I usually just awe over their dances and don’t really pay attention to much else because I feel like the dance is what they wanna showcase. And of course there’s a lot of actual good singers in SM, and I respect their talent. I don’t know, I feel like SM is mostly for the dancers more than anything else, but that’s just my opinion.
      *** I’m not really a good writer so I don’t really know what my comment sounds like (hence, I’m an Engineering student, not an Arts student…) but I hope you get my point of view…

      • http://twitter.com/sujumyeolchi strawberry myeolchi

        no i got you! in case you couldn’t tell from my name, i’m an eunhyuk fan as well, ha.
        completely agree about girl idols. kahi is my fave, but girl idols rarely get a chance to shine. hyoyeon’s longest dance break in a song was probably from… “Into the New World”? jeez.
        the reason I don’t hate boxes is because 3 minute pop songs without a deep meaning lend themselves to really shitty stories that try to be mini movies but lack logic. i’d much rather watch choreography as well!

        • Tanya Joshi

          Hyukie is literally my favourite person in KPop, haha. Actually, he was the one that got me started with the actual music because when he cameo-d on We Got Married, along with Teukie, as soon as he smiled, I was like, “I must find out who this man is!!!” Anyways, ignoring my intense…ness about Hyukie!
          I know, I wish they would help teach the girls LEGIT dancing instead of doing extended variations of “bbuing bbuing” and googly eyes… It’s quite annoying, no offence to girl groups… (Well, actually, a LITTLE offence, haha).
          And I know! I tend to like a song more when I’m able to get jealous of the choreography, and that usually tends to happen with SuJu and the like. And if their gonna sing songs about things like cheating on their girlfriend (like B1A4 or Teen Top) and such, I’d much rather you do an extremely awesome video showing choreography rather than doing a really stupid storyline-music-video…
          Either way! In my opinion, SM is doing fine. They seem lazy but it’s a LOT of work to manage the amount of idols they have AND keep them all original at the same time. Really, everyone looks the same in KPop, so we just really need to focus on personality (that’s why SuJu is great!). MBLAQ is a good example of people you’d MORE likely like for their personality. Their songs aren’t the best… But at least they dance! And no offence to any GD fans, but I would MUCH rather SM do what it’s doing than have everyone become like GD or something (what, with his really weird style and videos… that’s just me at least…) Anyways! Ranting…
          And just as a side note, if you look at the video that SM posted on YouTube of the performance, they CLEARLY say that the song was “Zedd’s Spectrum”.

  • Julija Liapaitė

    Honestly, if the song sounds great. I will listen to it. It’s that simple. I loved the original, and I love the remake. I don’t care that is is not original, if it makes me feel good.

  • Julija Liapaitė

    Honestly, if the song sounds great. I will listen to it. It’s that simple. I loved the original, and I love the remake. I don’t care that is is not original, if it makes me feel good.

  • http://logton.tumblr.com/ Jasmin Davis

    In 1983, the video game industry crashed, and the main reason behind it was the lack of consumer confidence. Too many games were being produced with not much quality, and buyers were becoming less and less trustful of the quality of games from some top producers. 

    Right now, the idol market is at the point. Over fifty idols debuted in 2011, and half of that debuted in the first quarter of 2012. SM is still a business at the end of the day, and they need to keep that customer confidence going if they want to continue to sell. Their recent release ‘I Got a Boy’ proves how their composers are dwindling in success, that they need to keep some kind of quality to keep their consumers. Using a remake allows success by using something that’s been known to succeed, music wise. 

  • TheJadeBullet

    I did prefer the softer vocals on SM’s version of Spectrum tbh. Hated Dancing Queen though. Also, if I find out that SHINee’s Obsession is a remake, I may punch something.

  • Kyra Lenard

    I love Spectrum by Zedd and Matthew Koma.  Matthew Koma’s voice makes the original version sound very unique.  SM really needs to stop with remaking songs.  I don’t care if SM is buying the rights, I’ve been tired and annoyed for 3 years now.  They need to be original because if they keep this up, many people are not going to take SM and SM idols seriously.  I felt Spectrum was watered down by the performance to be honest.

  • Kyra Lenard

    I love Spectrum by Zedd and Matthew Koma.  Matthew Koma’s voice makes the original version sound very unique.  SM really needs to stop with remaking songs.  I don’t care if SM is buying the rights, I’ve been tired and annoyed for 3 years now.  They need to be original because if they keep this up, many people are not going to take SM and SM idols seriously.  I felt Spectrum was watered down by the performance to be honest.

  • Jolin Tsai

    I don’t know if you guys realise. When you buy a SM’s cd, where the lyrics are written , right under when you see ”Original Title” that’s meen the song as been bought.

    I realise that only 1-3 wasn’t ”stealed” per cd (Ex: Mr.Simple, THE BOYS) but i don’t know if it apply to every SM’s CDs

  • taequila777

    I felt that way when I realized that one of my favorite Super Junior songs-“Monster” was a remake/remix version or a mashup of two songs. I listened to the original songs-“You’re Not Alone” and “Just Like That”-I’m too lazy and cold right now to look up the artists…however I still like SJ’s renedition.

  • Almira Agathas

    Although the song is a cover, I feel the vocal is smoother in SM version. Well, I’m easily pleased so I don’t really care. 

  • http://twitter.com/MaiaMeralda Maia Meralda

    ah i found a person that felt exactly the same with me.i’m a fan of Super Junior,but i felt disappointed when founding some ‘copycat’ song in their albums.when i try to take a look at snsd,f(x), and shinee,ah it was the same.what makes me more disappointed is that they copied,or remake (which i don’t know exactly),to the song i really like.like f(x) hot summer –> justin timberlake-sexy back or super junior – so i (on first album) –> westlife – my love.spectrum is fatal mistake,they didn’t even try to make it different

  • Rebecca M

    Because of the inspiration from SeoulBeats, I’ve started my own K-Pop blog at http://kpopforevr.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/k-pops-hidden-gem-mfbtys-sweet-dream.html

  • http://twitter.com/TVXQ_ShineX TVXQaktf

    I thought it was Skrillex T.T *WHINES*