• ShineeWorld52911

    It annoys me how the creators of the show have to nitpick every little thing or over emphasize their foreignness. It’s like ” we get it, now STFU!”

  • jesuis2

    Korean-Americans such as Nicole, Tiffany, Jessica, etc. aren’t seen as “foreigners”, but Koreans who grew up overseas and just didn’t learn the culture/language well enough.

    That’s why others such as Brian, Eric, Dara (Korean-Fil), Alex (Korean-Canadian), etc. aren’t made fun of in that manner even tho they grew up similarly since they could speak Korean pretty fluently from the start (as Tiffany and Jessica have become more fluent, those types of jokes have all but gone by the wayside).

    As for non-Koreans or half-Koreans, it’s also just a matter of being able to speak the language fluent enough.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LL4QDJLVFDT2RDIZYBALSE75JE angel29

      Dara only spent quite a good amount of time in the Philippines.  She is definitely not a Korean-Fil but a Korean.  :) But I do get your point in pointing out the Fil side of it.

    • lifeisabeachparty

      Just a a slight correction Dara is not Korean-Fil. She is 100% Korean, she just lived in the Philippines for a few years and was active in the entertainment industry.

      And Koreans not raised in Korea should not be called foreigners… The article is very misleading.

      Those that do not have any ties to a country like ethnicity or citizenship could be considered foreigners.

      That’s why  Brian, Eric, Dara, Jessica, Tiffany and Alex should not be called foreigners while Nickchun, Victoria and Amber are foreigners because, they do not have any Korean blood and where not raised in Korea., 

      • jesuis2

        Yes, Dara is 100% ethnic Korean, but her family moved to the Philippines when she was 10 yrs old and lived there for 13 years – so one can say that she is Korean-Fil in the way that Eric Mun is Korean-American (even if Dara always retained her Korean citizenship).

      • jesuis2

        Yes, Dara is 100% ethnic Korean, but her family moved to the Philippines when she was 10 yrs old and lived there for 13 years – so one can say that she is Korean-Fil in the way that Eric Mun is Korean-American (even if Dara always retained her Korean citizenship).

  • hk198215

    I liked Amber the best on Invincible Youth 2. i liked her because she was smart and didn’t act like an idiot like the rest of the silly cast.  Plus, I think the creator makes the foreign cast look one-dimensional.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

    Variety is really just the G-PG rated cousin of Real World and Road Rules — lightly scripted, structured and improv heavy entertainment (without all the sex and debauchery in variety’s case). For that reason, I wouldn’t consider it an affront. That would be like complaining that the Spanish Inquisition sketch on Monty Python mocks Spanish history. It’s a lot of caricature — not something you should take deadly serious.

    I do often wish that variety shows would make more of an effort to allow foreign idols to be themselves, but then I think there would be so many f-bombs dropped it would send the censors into seizure mode. Not to mention “uncouth,” unruly, slightly laid back (slipping on the honorifics and etiquette) attitudes would probably go over like Vanilla Ice at the Source Awards with the (most likely older — I doubt the younger demo would find it all that odd or shocking) Korean audience. 

    Lost foreigners are just another archetype, same with fiesty girl or boy, shy girl or boy, studious girl or boy, strong noona or oppa, etc. I don’t so much have an issue with this paradigm in Korean variety as I do the lack of alternate programming where foreign idols could truly be themselves. It gets a little tiring watching foreign idols struggle to keep up the facade of accepted etiquette when you can see they really just want to shoot the breeze and comfortably BS for a little while, not to mention it just ends up feeling disingenuous.

    • http://banquo.dreamwidth.org/

      I agree for the most part, except for this:

      I do often wish that variety shows would make more of an effort to allow foreign idols to be themselves, but then I think there would be so many f-bombs dropped it would send the censors into seizure mode.

      I’m just not really sure where you got this perception from. Granted, profanities are probably looser in other countries than SK—I don’t deny that—but to presume that all/a majority of foreigners will spew out expletives every chance they get is a little much. I’m sure that foreign idols are just as image-aware as other idols.

  • fireflies99

    How is Nicole, one of the most animated personalities in the industry, one dimensional? Yeah she gets harped on a lot for not having perfect Korean. The Korean media did not go to the  extent with a non-Korean. It’s simply not the same case. Nicole is just a very confused person. While other’s hide it, she embraced it for variety.

  • Chocho268

    I love Nicole, she’s such a sweetheart.

  • http://twitter.com/Caaaal Callum

    I’m still waiting for a white person in a kpop group.