• http://twitter.com/micky_joon_park ГОЛЫЙ КЮХЁННИ ИМНИДА

    EUNHAE IS REAL, GUYS ;DD

  • http://www.facebook.com/karheng279 Aaron Ho

    Guess my popcorn is gonna be wasted. =/ 

    But seriously though, the only shock I get was that it’s was Eunhyuk and IU, the last ship that I would have ever anticipated. Yet the writer said that there were signs before? Please do enlighten me 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4ZSUYNPUIRG7OCJAG3CTPDETM Bazinga

      the “signs” they are talking about was rumours and stuff on Korean forums o.o

    • k_db

      There was supposedly a suspicious episode of Strong Heart that IU guested.  Leetuek tweeted “Eunhyuk’s woman is here.” Then on the actual episode, you know those little chalk boards they write their story titles on?  Eunhyuk’s was just a heart, while IU’s was “Oppa, I’m here.”

      Mind you this is honestly nothing.  

    • tekanes

       There has been rumors of the two dating, in the Korean blogosphere, since 2010. However, it was hushed up, because IU was underage at the time. In addition to the Strong Heart episodes, there are also videos and pictures circulating on the forums.

      • Sour Grape

        I red about them in a Celebrity Gossip forum awhile ago(with picture of their matching outfits/accessories), but I brushed it off because it seems so random 

  • anono101

    Hahaha, I didn’t expect those kind of comments from the Korean netizens. “Eunhyuk is a real man that visits the sick not only topless but also by bringing his own sofa.”

    Anyhow, I haven’t seen an article from Patricia in forever. :o

  • Teena Alex

    I don’t really see what the big deal is lol! if they are dating let them be. if they are not let them be. Celebs have a private life too. I don’t they need to explain the situation to some nosy people. i think its just crazy. 

  • danahz

    Funny how neither IU nor Eunhyuk commented on the scandal

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQ53WK5K4DPXQ5DIBKDELB6WPE Camille

      And they never will. Jonghyun hasn’t even spoken about Shin Sekyung in public since their epic JongKyung scandal days a couple of years ago.

  • http://twitter.com/deanheat Heather

    I find it interesting that you say at the beginning of the article that this lack of reaction is “disappointingly benign”, while then defending said benign direction.

    I would also say that SM did not mirror LOEN’s statement–they essentially said “no comment” which in some interpretations means, “We don’t find this worthy of commenting on.” If SM thought this was a bigger issue than it is, they would have been forced to make a statement etc…further enforcing the lack of a wave this has made

  • hapacalgirl

    I was more shocked at the Eunhyuk/IU pair than anything. I didn’t even know they were friends.  But other than a few kpop news sites I don’t frequent forums so thats no surprise. What I find disconcerting is that she posts a picture and immediately people (including the writer here) accounts it to she is having sex just because he appears shirtless in the pic.  Now I am not naive and it is highly probable the two are doing the naughty naughty  and she is probably no where near the innocent and virginal pop singer that LOEN and herself have made her out to be but just how quick the assumption/speculation  was made based on a single picture is what is disconcerting and the fact that this speculation is being now treated as fact is even more concerning. 

  • Raiden01

    Parts of this article are garbage. Either way, what people need to understand is that LOEN Entertainment chose the image for her. This is a business and even she said in an interview once she was waiting for what concept (image) her company was going to choose for her next. She debut with emotional and sad music, then went on to the cute image. This was all chosen by her agency NOT by her. She says every chance she gets on interviews that she is not cute herself that she just plays cute. She says this all the time but none want to listen. She even spoke about drinking and porn a few days ago on Go Show.
    She didn’t fool anybody. People fooled themselves and now want to blame her for something they WANTED to believe. The picture does not prove she had sex, just that she was close to a guy. A girl who says all the time she falls in love easy is now known to had been close to someone. This does not mean she had sex.
    She is not the problem here, girls at a young age do dumb things and crush a lot.
    The real test and issue here as parts of this article stated is how will the crazy netizens respond.
    Will they mature and let this pass? Or sway from the western hemisphere which they look up to so much.
    Kpop needs IU. She has talent and can (hopefully) still hold her image if the media stops posting about this. Think about the 90% of kpop who only lip sync’s.
    There won’t be another IU. Netizens should evolve and notice that a mistake should not define a person.

    • lLUVALLKPOPGROUPS

      Well written. Summed up my thoughts exactly. This ought to be the top comment. 

    • Sour Grape

      Actually, there is nothing wrong with the picture, except Eunhyuk’s expression. 

    • Sour Grape

      Actually, there is nothing wrong with the picture, except Eunhyuk’s expression. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/do.ly.33 Ly Do

        AND him being… kinda topless

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nate-Broadus/100003245734823 Nate Broadus

      Nothing more needs to be said. Well done.

  • cecedee

    Eunhyuk is like my ultimate bias but I never object him to date. And some of the SJ members admitted they date/dated after debut,so yeah,maybe this contributes some factor in the seemingly quieter than expected ELFs. A lot of ELFs are already in their 20s too so I guess lots of them already get that people, idols or not, date. But of course there are still some ELFs that feel ‘betrayed’, especially some eunhae hardcore shippers. This maybe the reason SM stay quiet, their loss can still be minimized (and prevents further damage after LOEN’s ridiculous explanation). Although, some people are labelling eunhyuk as this perverted pedophile. They are referring to their age difference, or the rumor that they already date in 2010,when IU was still a minor. It was debated that they may have dated/close back then,but it cannot be proved that they had sex back then.

    As for IU, I see some of ELFs hating her, but mostly it’s because this is her slip,but eunhyuk too had to bear some consequences (e.g. being called a perverted pedophile, the chances of shipped to the army sooner, or on hiatus). Thankfully, SM makes him continue his activities because had they not, IU will have much more slut-shamers. Sadly, she still have to deal with her fans. Idk much about her fans but I think they find it harder that IU dates/dated than eunhyuk’s fans deal with the fact that oppa dates/dated because of her innocent image. But well,maybe this is the cue for her to move on to a more mature image. Honestly, she should have done it for some time ago already.

    I feel both glad and regret this happen, though. I’m glad because now I know there are more people that accept their idols date, and because of this scandal happen, I feel that there are more hopes for future idol relationships go public. But then, on my regret side, the slut-shaming and the pervert/pedophile-shaming are still a high price to pay for me.

    Just for fun, I read someone make up a better explanation than LOEN on twitter : eunhyuk is visiting IU, she tried to cook ramen for him but then there’s fire so eunhyuk take off his clothes to put off the fire (IU tweeted before that the pajama was burnt). Then they took commemoration photo of them controlling the fire. XD. And the funniest reaction for me would be jonghyun was sekyung’s fan,eunhyuk was IU’s fan. there’s hope after all,guys. HA.

    PS. I thought eunhyuk was drunk when I saw the picture lol. I was like ‘so now you drink much?!since paris?!tsk’ then I read the article below it and goes ‘OH. so he’s not drunk’ haha

  • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

    I actually find IU and Eunhyuk pretty cute together. Eunhyuk seems like a pretty nice guy who would treat her well, but admittedly I don’t know either of them very well.

    I do find it ridiculous that Loen used that excuse. It’s so blatantly false, as you so aptly pointed out: “let’s be real; no one visits their sick friends half-naked and selcas while they’re at it.” If Loen had said that they were dating, and that picture was taken after they got into a water fight while washing dishes and Eunhyuk’s shirt was in the dryer, now that I might believe. But the excuse they came out with just makes me think, yup they look like they’re in a sexual relationship. (I would like to note it took me 10 seconds to come up with that excuse. How many other excuses can you guys come up with in 10 seconds that sound more plausible than the one Loen used?)

    What I don’t understand is why some celebrities like IU and Eunhyuk can escape relatively unscathed from what most people perceive as a sex scandal, while others get into more trouble for less. Wasn’t Jonghyun (the guy from Shinee) and his girlfriend treated really badly after a picture came out of them just dating, fully clothed and everything? It makes me really curious as to what the difference is. Is it possibly because SJ and IU’s fandoms are a little older, and maybe a little more stable than Shinee’s? Ah, so curious…

    • illerz

       I think it might actually be because people can convince themselves somewhere inside that it might be perfectly innocent or why would she still have the photo kind of thing. Or it could be like how no one cared that shindong had a gf. I mean some people just make you feel like you just don’t care you like them for other reasons that a delusional idea that he’s yours and you will marry him some day. As for IU, I think some cynical twisted part of me believes the uncle fans are glad she isn’t as innocent as she portrayed now they can be disgusting about her in public or in the open and not feel like shitty human beings or something. Or they could just not care because they like her as innocently as they claim.

      This is just one of those. I WAS SHOCKED though. Not that eunhyuk was having sex or that IU was having sex. That they were banging it out together?! Shocking. Lol I can just see this being used to embarrass both of them for a LONG time. Even without public backlash. The variety world ain’t gonna let this go. Not now, NOT EVA.

      • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

         Haha, yeah I can’t see the variety world letting this go for a while. It’s not every day a really popular idol accidentally posts a picture of themself with another really popular idol looking all naked and like they’ve just, ahem, orgasmed. I can see that fueling jokes for a long, long time as well.

      • specky203

        totally agreeing with this.. just yesterday i saw article on SNL Korea parodying IU-Eunhyuk Strong Heart’s board thing including with Lee Yongade things too tho ^^ 
        reading the fanacc on how KHD and Boom making fun of Eunhyuk at Star Kin recording, this totally will be a long time joke in the variety world ^^
        btw, people are anticipate if ever Gag Concert’s Brave Guys will touch on this matter >.<  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQ53WK5K4DPXQ5DIBKDELB6WPE Camille

      The situation during Jonghyun and Sekyung thing was probably worse because it was the first time a current idol was actually caught dating a fast-rising actress. Both had big, dedicated fanbases. Both were in the spotlight. Both were young. Both were not ever linked to anyone. And then for pictures to come out in the newspaper, and not like Twitter as in IU and Eunhyuk’s case is a bit different. The whole nation saw it unfold, unlike only a certain part of the population who lurk the Internet. Then for SM Entertainment, notoriously protective of its stars, to go and actually say that “Yes, Jonghyun has been Shin Sekyung for some time now.” is historic as it’s never happened before. All hell broke loose.

      Since then, Junhyung and Hara have publicly admitted they’re dating and I suppose fans are just finally getting used to idols actually having relationships out in the open. Not to mention the fact that a lot of Super Junior’s fans have grown up with the boys, many of them in their 20′s and probably finally okay with their oppas dating. Everyone knows idols date around anyway. It’s just the actual coming to the public spotlight is the thing fans aren’t really prepared for. It seals the fact that oppa can never be theirs and is actually with someone they can put a name and face to.

  • http://twitter.com/PhanTheHotness Jenny

    i think IU’s image suffered the most. no more nation’s little sister for her. and honestly, there’s no way she was that naive or innocent, not at this time and age and esp in the entertainment industry. 

    personally, whatever they do in their private life is none of our business. there’s a whole nother world that we don’t see. 

    and i gotta say, if they are together, go eunhyuk! he’s teammates always rag on him about being ugly, but look at him getting girls left and right haha

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      I don’t care if Eunhyuk’s considered the ugliest, I find him to be one of the most charming members and also fairly genuine and not annoying. Maybe the others are just jealous that he’s one of the most talented members. :P

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

        I think him being the called the ugliest is just a running joke for them, like how they always call Donghae babo and Siwon deaf. They just love making fun of each other in shows to goof around. Yeah Eunhyuk is charming and very very witty. He’s very funny that’s why he’s popular around girls. Even SNSD said he’s the most famous among them.

        • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

          Yeah, it definitely is. Super Junior likes to make fun of each other. ^_^

  • Alexandra Saliba

    I kept waiting for Seoulbeats to report on this (big fan of this site) and you didn’t disappoint. A really thought-provoking read and I have to admit as an international fan myself that I too expected IU to be condemned rather than Eunhyuk even if I disagreed with it. I guess only time will tell….Eunhyuk/IU fighting!~

  • Mika_San123

    You know, I always find it extremely frustrating to read Patricia’s articles because I usually completely disagree with her opinion but I find her arguments really difficult to refute because they’re written so well.

    It’s true that international fans have developed stereotypes about Korean society, but the very fact that public criticism in Korea did force Ivy and Baek Jiyeon into taking hiatuses, shows that Korean netizens do care about virginity (and the “purity” and “innocence” that virginity connotes), and the fact that both Ivy and Baek Jiyeon were able to make successful comebacks is more indicative of the emphasis that the Korean public places on repentance than the idea that Korean netizens don’t really care about a female celebrity’s “innocence”.

    Also, I’m a little disappointed that there wasn’t really a discussion about how IU is getting more flack than Eunhyuk in this article. It’s not just a “kneejerk reaction” when it’s true that this scandal is having more of an effect on IU’s career than Eunhyuk’s. I’ve seen so many comments about this being the end of IU’s career, and for the few comments about Eunhyuk’s career, they’re always accompanied by a comment about IU’s career, too. To summarize the comments, they mostly consist something like “Goodbye IU” or “Wow, IU’s career is destroyed”. Going back to how IU is receiving more criticism than Eunhyuk, take this comment, which I believe was truncated in Patricia’s article:

    [+1,759, -224] I don’t care what IU does in her private life, but she’s
    the one that took on the little girl lolita concept and always said how
    she doesn’t know anything. The problem is that such a picture was
    uploaded to her Twitter… on top of that, there are even rumors of the
    picture being taken in 2010. As a minor, this can only greatly impact
    her career.

    Technically, we can’t be sure if they had sex, but if they did, normally, it’s the adult in the relationship who takes the brunt of the criticism. But here, the netizen speaks about the impact on IU’s career, rather than Eunhyuk’s career, even though Eunhyuk was the adult! I’m not saying we should all start blaming Eunhyuk and rioting in front of his house, and I’m still inclined to believe that as my SJ bias, Eunhyuk is genuinely kind-hearted, but I do think there’s a serious problem if people are criticizing IU for having sex as a minor and not criticizing Eunhyuk for having sex with a minor. (I understand that South Korea seems to have a lower age of consent, which makes it legal for an adult to have sex with consenting minors of a certain age, but nevertheless, the criticism should not be solely focused on IU.)

    If we’re going to go with the argument that it’s because IU manipulated her image, then every single kpop idol (including Eunhyuk) deserves to be called out for misleading the public with their false onstage images, because all their images vary from their true personalities to a certain extent.

    Furthermore, I think the Korean public is also partially at fault for forcing IU to create such an image. Nobody cared about IU when she debuted with a mature, dark, serious concept that focused on her haunting vocals, but they embraced her when she returned with the whole, innocent, I-love-you-oppa concept. You can’t really blame IU for going with the innocent, cute image if you weren’t going to like her when she was being serious. What else could she have done to become popular?

    Lastly, while the Korean public realizes that cutesy, “innocent” IU onstage is different from IU offstage, it’s not like they’re OK with it if they’re calling her a “sly fox”. Considering that the Korean netizens are criticizing her for not being the same innocent girl offstage as she is onstage shows that they’ve recognized that her real personality is different from her onstage image, that they KNOW the onstage kpop images are manufactured, but they’re far from being accepting of the fact, which then shows they do want kpop idols to maintain their personal lives according to their images – it’s just that the netizens know it doesn’t happen.

    • http://www.callmepatricia.com Patricia

      Thanks for the comments. Just to make it clear, I don’t mean to imply that Korean society is devoid of problematic (in this case, sexist) behavior. While there has been considerable backlash directed at Eunhyuk, IU has received bulk of the “reactionary” blame (e.g. comments like “Goodbye IU”) — and the fact that IU is the first target in this situation does speak to the sexism that continues to pervade in Korean society. Same goes with the widespread popularity of IU’s “innocent image” as well as netizens calling her a fox…though I think the term “fox” (“여우,” which in Korean also refers to the animal) in Korean isn’t exactly the same thing as calling someone a slut in English; I’d even venture to say that it’s just a way to refer to the antithesis of the shy, innocent girl. So while calling a girl a ‘fox’ is problematic on its own, there are plenty of other derogatory terms towards women in Korean slang that could’ve been used. I don’t really see it as an indication of people expressing their disapproval of IU’s offstage image as much as it is an indication of surprise or a way to juxtapose IU’s offstage image with her onstage image.

      Anyway, I’m not saying that there has been absolutely no backlash towards IU (because clearly there has been), nor am I ignoring the fact that the antagonism is skewed towards IU. Both of these issues are problematic, and it’s obvious why they are problematic. But the issue I’m trying to address is the way in which international fandom looks at Korean public reaction and uses issues like this to build up the popular opinion that Korea is inherently sexist, racist, etc. We’re quick to call things out in K-pop as being sexist and racist because the ways in which sexism and racism manifests itself in Korean culture is so different than what we’re used to, to the point where we’re unwilling to explore the reasons why they’re so different — and so we just chalk it up to one blanket explanation: Korea has a different culture than us, so it must be their culture’s fault that they’re being racist/sexist/etc. Put lightly, that kind of oversimplification is just really unfair.

      In regards to the Baek Ji-young and Ivy examples — the reason I brought up those two instances was to show that the outlook towards sex in Korean society is evolving. As stated in the article, Ivy’s scandal took place over five years ago; BJY’s over a decade ago. That’s a long time, especially when you look at how the outlook towards problematic issues in Western world (not that the West should be used as a yardstick to measure social progressiveness) has changed in the past decade. Just because Korea freaked out over BJY and Ivy’s sex scandals ten years ago doesn’t mean they’ve retained those same attitudes over the course of ten years. Again, the fact that we assume Korea’s perspective towards sex hasn’t changed in ten years points to a culturalist view that assumes that certain behaviors are assigned to a society’s culture, thus making them impervious to change over time and circumstance.

      • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

         Very well stated. There are a few times I have to sit back and think “wait, isn’t the notion that ‘we’ are so much more sophisticated/liberated/better (whatever the term is) than Koreans because ‘they are all so prejudiced’ kind of, well a bit prejudiced/racist in and of itself?” It’s kind of a hard topic when people have to decide who’s right and who’s wrong, since things are rarely black and white.

      • Mika_San123

        I know this was three weeks ago… but I’m still going to make a belated response…

        Actually, I believe that the term “fox” does have connotations of a cunning, evil seductress in Korean. According to one article I was reading, “People who are judged to be merely cunning, sly
        and clever are often kept at a distance, sometimes hated, and even
        feared. Whatever the original reasons may have been, the fox is a symbol
        for such a disgusting person. The longer they live, the more cunning
        and slyer they would become. The longer the fox lives, so is it
        believed, the more disgusting it becomes by acquiring evil supernatural
        power.” (Here’s a link if you want to refer to it: http://www.coyotes.org/kitsune/myths_korean.html) I mean, maybe the fox has been portrayed more positively in recent pop culture (as in the drama My Girlfriend is a Gumiho), but the fox has always had a role of being an evil trickster in Korean mythology, and I’m pretty sure the term derives more of its meaning from mythology than recent pop culture.

        I did misunderstand your point about Ivy and Baek Jiyoung, so thanks for clarifying that.

        However, while I agree that it would be wrong to characterize the entirety of Korea as sexist, it wouldn’t be wrong of an international fan to say that many of the Korean netizens’ comments are indeed very sexist, and the general public response, the netizens’ outrage is stemming from some very sexist ideas. Basically, I don’t think international fans are making something up (that the general K-netizen response is sexist) out of a “kneejerk reaction”, or out of nothing.

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      While I think you definitely make a good point about S. Korea’s view on women, I think it’s important to take into consideration the fact that this scandal does tarnish IU’s image a lot more than Eunhyuk’s. IU’s image is pure, sweet, and innocent. Eunhyuk’s is more carefree and he’s more of a variety idol. Of course, that kind of reflects the country’s view on women in a way, because they are held to higher standards of purity, but I can understand why IU’s getting more abuse than Eunhyuk simply because she had more to lose than him. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4WRQKA6E7RBHBDIO4HCR5NZS2M Mme. de Mme

    This was interesting. I came across this topic in several places, and the three main trends in the (sensible) comments were: 1. Woohoo! At least someone’s getting some 2. Questions about their age difference (Her image makes her seem younger than her age) 3. She’s too (pretty/good) for him. 

    What I want to know is, where are the comments about him being too (good/mature/wonderful) for her?  

    • anono101

      Hmm, people would have to watch quite a bit of Eunhyuk or Super Junior’s variety shows to know of his mature and attractive moments. Honestly, when I first saw a video of him, I thought, “Whoa! His face! It’s weird!” Even now, most casual K-pop fans know of him as “that guy who’s labelled as the ugliest in Super Junior by his own members.” 

      I think that’s what the last AKP articles that were about Eunhyuk (before this scandal) were about. Meanwhile, IU frequently pops up for her innocent image or fangirling of Taeyang, which most international fans seem to prefer over Eunhyuk.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

        LOL, I truly believed she really had a crush on Taeyang.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZNIQKK2KUWNEJARY3N4LTWDVWE j lee

           hahah… she probably did at one point but, as she said in interviews, she is not the type to force her attention but will give up if there is no show of interest from the guy.  it’s too bad taeyang showed no interest for a long time. 

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

            You got a point there.But Taeyang seems to like noonas rather than younger girls.Anyways that’s  just what I think because I dont know why Im so convinced he likes Dara.Lol

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      Plenty of the last one from ELFs….. 

  • muggle87

    I hope so cause I am IU fan, I don’t want her career to be destroy. I am currently worry over ‘I-Jinyo that was just formed. (source: allkpop) I really don’t like those groups that demand the truth cause in the end, they aren’t looking for the truth, they just looking to burn artist on stake like witches. That is why I think those jinyo groups are just excuse to go on a witch hunt. I won’t forget what they did Tablo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002780664624 Jolly Roger

    It all comes down to one equation, and it applies to any celebrity anywhere…

    Celebrities have the same rights as anyone else, they are free to do whatever they want with their personal lives. But they also have to accept the fact that the public and their fans have an equal right to punish them financially for any possibly offensive or undesirable words, actions, or behaviors that go public. If a segment of IU’s fanbase decides to jump-ship, it is their right to do so.

    Loen, like all the other kpop companies, has created and actively promoted a “character” whose identity is dependent upon a certain image. That is the risk they take and have to accept when creating such confining and unrealistic characters for their entertainers. If someone screws up and the facade is shattered, intentionally or not, it is gone. Too bad.

    The liily-white pristine “Little Sister” character could never be sustained indefinitely anyway. Loen’s pathetic attempt to try to salvage what is probably not salvageable is just making things worse for IU. 

    Sure, she will probably lose some of her fans who were drawn to her innocent character, but IU is a talented singer and musician, and people who love her for her voice will likely not abandon her over this episode. 

    It was time for her to grow up and move on anyway.

  • VLF218

    I was definitely shocked but not upset or anything.  There are so many instances where the stage personality does’t match their real one, so why would this be any different??  IU is 20 years and a legal adult so why should she have to act like a 15 year old girl off stage?  Once I got over the initial shock I don’t see it as a big deal.  I love IU and Eunhyuk is my SuJu bias and I think it would be sweet if they were actually dating.  I don’t think any different of her though, her stage persona is just that.  A persona 

  • velvett

    Not lying, my first thought when I saw the picture was “why Eunhyuk?” No offense to elfs, but I fail to see any attractive quality about Eunhyuk, personality and looks wise. But I guess it’s IU’s choice, not mine and probably she did see something special about him.

    Anyways I think the ones that might be really mad right now are some of IU’s uncle fans and hardcore elfs. It seems that most k-netizens and i-netizens are just making fun of the irony of situation rather than condemning them. Most people are just making harmless jokes about it. Honestly adults having sex is just as natural as eating pork, anyone who has a problem with this should go back to the 19th century and shut the fuck up. Oh yeah I think the “she was having a cold” excuse is bullshit imo . I have experience with sex and with catching colds, and that is not the picture of someone comforting a sick person (I think they’re a bit too close and too undressed for a hypothetical scenario of a viral infection…just saying.) But if LOEN said “he was drunk but there was no sex” I could believe it. Seriously, just look at his facial expression. He was either drunk of alcohol or he just had an orgasm.

    There’s no way telling how much this will affect her career until she drops her next album and see how it fares against her previous sales figures. Maybe she’ll pull out a Britney Spears and revamp her image (not literally I mean). She could use this situation to drop altogether the innocent image that LOEN forced on her and go on a more mature style, like when she debuted. 

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      “As natural as eating pork”

      Well, actually, eating pork is really unhealthy for humans, because pigs release hormones that aren’t healthy to eat when they are killed…

      But other than that, I get what you’re saying. xD

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      “As natural as eating pork”

      Well, actually, eating pork is really unhealthy for humans, because pigs release hormones that aren’t healthy to eat when they are killed…

      But other than that, I get what you’re saying. xD

  • http://dvqd92.tumblr.com/ Elizabeth

    great article Patricia :)

  • Sentimental Muffin

    I read a fan account from NK Subs’ twitter page and Eunhyuk was at a Star King recording. According to the fan account EH was teased by Kang Ho Dong and Boom that he’s a man or a beast etc. And some gag woman sang a IU song using EH’s name.
    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/jvsk1c

    So ya, looking at this particular incident “post-scandal” it seems that this will just be some gag/running joke till it blows over (Some hard-core ELFs aren’t going to be chuffed by this).

    IMO, LOEN really did drop the ball with that press release.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=817485226 Chanting Lee

    Just a question. Why the assumption that it’s a ‘sex’ scandal? I would say it’s a scandal, but not a ‘sex’ type. Sure, IU was in less-than-decent clothing, but we can’t be sure of what they did, but can only tell that they are pretty close (for her to be in PJs too) from the picture. We also can’t be sure if Eunhuk IS half-naked. To be honest I liked IU when she was in her Mia stage, though she pulled off the sweet, innocent girl next door image, the choice was not hers but her management LOEN. I was initially shocked of course, but IU’s of age, and what celebrities and idols do in their private lives is their own choice.

    I do agree with the article that Korean netizens don’t seem to recognise this fact, and places the blame on IU in not having a onstage = offstage persona, thus calling her a fox, which fuels the gender inequality and sexism in the country itself… Since Eunhyuk isn’t called anything in the process.

    If they knew idols’ image are manufactured, why do they still insist on calling IU a fox? It was not IU’s choice to change from Mia to Marshmellow (*shivers*), so from then on IU was just playing the game LOEN has thrown to her.

  • christine nguyen

    wearing pajamas equates to sex??? from my experience, pajamas usually signifies that you are in a comfortable environment. i can see this picture resulting in a scandal in that it reveals that eunhyuk and iu have a close relationship (not sure what kind), but it is still far from a sex scandal. she’s not even naked! and we can barely see enough of him to see his outfit. seriously, do people usually dress up when they stay home nowadays? The whole concept of what is innocent and cute seem totally off with the ridiculous comments. So once a girl is in a relationship, she is no longer consider cute? And girls apparently sleep with all guys that they’ve dated? Even if the girl just started dated someone, if she tells someone, they would right away assume that they’ve already had sex. What world do people live in? not everyone acts like they are on a reality tv show.

    • Sour Grape

      No, Eunhyuk’s weird facial expression = “they just had sex”

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZNIQKK2KUWNEJARY3N4LTWDVWE j lee

        can i just say that i think that while the expression is weird, to automatically assume that he has a “sex” face is just ridiculous.  people can claim this all they want but, at the end of the day, it’s just an opinion. 
        i for one thought he was doped or drunk.  but then again, it could also be one of those bad photo shots that you get occasionally where you look really stupid.
        the picture shows half iu’s face and body and eunhyuk’s face, neck, and tiny bit of his left shoulder.  don’t we have 2 shoulders, not just one?  with that in mind, i want people to consider the POSSIBILITY perhaps we are all jumping to the wrong conclusions. 
        i’m not saying it did or did not happen but the possibility that perhaps people are just too jaded and they assumed things wrongly.  only god, iu and eunhyuk really know the truth.  the rest of us, including the k-netizens, are left to speculate as to what the truth is. 
        added to this whole equation is the iu antis.  the group now known as ijinyo (changed their name to this after the scandal) was created long before the scandal.  although they now say they demand “the truth” from iu.  as some may know, iu has had antis for a long time now.  whether because of jealousy or hatred, she’s always had them through her career.  up to now, they had no chance to really directly attack her as they are doing now.  they always took snipes at her but never like this. 
        i believe that these antis are actually muddying the picture and actually making it seem worse than it is by flocking to the iu articles and leaving negative and misleading statements.  i guess time will tell but i don’t believe that we are truly getting an accurate picture from the netizen posts from the k-articles.

        • Sour Grape

          Loen Entertainment releases a statement about the picture, what do you think about it? Just curious

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZNIQKK2KUWNEJARY3N4LTWDVWE j lee

            Sorry for the late response but here goes:

            I think that Loen is a company that is unused to dealing with scandals and they gave a short answer without really thinking it through. This could have all been nipped in the bud right then if they actually gave some thought to their response since first and foremost, the reason that they gave was actually not unreasonable or really that unlikely. They just needed to explain themselves better and plug all the holes.

            Let’s actually look at what they have on hand that they could have used:
            1 – the picture actually shows very little of Eunhyuk and they could have explained that away relatively easily. Bad angle of the camera, loose vee neck shirt
            2 – it’s not unreasonable to be in pj at one’s house when sick
            3 – it’s not unreasonable to be in pj when visited by friend while sick
            4. – that is a sofa at IU’s house and it is not a bed. a lot of fans have shown pretty convincingly that that pic shows that they are on a sofa which is at IU’s house
            5 – since he is a celebrity, they could have just taken a friendly selca on the sofa together but the shot was bad and ended up with half of IU’s face being cut off and Eunhyuk looking like a doofus
            6 – the lighting was bad as you can tell from what you can of see of IU’s face. I also run into this type of problem with my Samsung phone so again not unreasonable.

            So Loen goofed by being so short and thoughtless with their answer. Nothing that they claimed happened was really that unlikely but they did a really poor job of selling it.

      • showersinger

        sex is one possibility of many..why is sex just assumed? facial expression can’t be due to just bad awkward picture? the look of experiencing a food coma? of maybe the expression after make out session? so many other possibilities but i guess people just like the one that would most negatively affect IU’s reputation the most.

  • http://ofstrangersensibilities.blogspot.com Joy Of Stranger Sensibilities

    I’m actually quite excited about this. Ideally and I mean IDEALLY, this will force IU to ditch her saccharine sweet image in favour of something more ‘real’ and true to herself. After all her album was called “Last Fantasy” amirite? I don’t mean to imply that her new image has to be overly sexed up, but she no longer has to act all doll-like and shit and sing songs about Sam-chon. I’m stoked for what hopefully will be a more mature sound and an equally more grown up image.

  • http://ofstrangersensibilities.blogspot.com Joy Of Stranger Sensibilities

    I’m actually quite excited about this. Ideally and I mean IDEALLY, this will force IU to ditch her saccharine sweet image in favour of something more ‘real’ and true to herself. After all her album was called “Last Fantasy” amirite? I don’t mean to imply that her new image has to be overly sexed up, but she no longer has to act all doll-like and shit and sing songs about Sam-chon. I’m stoked for what hopefully will be a more mature sound and an equally more grown up image.

  • Streby

    Well, that’s the Spring of a 20 year old for you.

    • Nabeela

      oh my god im dying

  • chanrae

    I for one would be very happy of any two celebrity were having sex with each other. After Seungri, I think everyone’s game even ‘the nation’s little sister’. IU never aid she was an innocent virgin anyway and image concepts, we all know are just what they are, for us to love or hate. Seriously, it would be great if IU was sick (not sick, sick just sick as in flu or mild fever, knowwhatImean?) and gets visited by Hyukjae more often. It does not worry, scandalize or even horrify me (although I hope if they did, precautions were already put in place). I’m just waiting for a couple of idols to come out the closet. Really. 

  • haiitsvi

    I’m just going to insert a little comment that popped into my head while reading this article. IU’s situation seems to be quite the opposite of Hyuna’s, right? One: an innocently marketed idol that takes “scandalous” photos in her spare time vs. Two: a provocatively marketed idol that claims she isn’t at all like that in real life.

    Maybe it was just me but I didn’t really get the impression that international netizens were making any assumptions about Korea and Korean culture. Most of what I saw was that they didn’t like how IU’s image didn’t match her real personality. And hating on the haters. Although I did see a bit of how no one seemed to be reprimanding Eunhyuk for “dirtying” his image, which I noticed you didn’t really address in this article.

  • specky203

    before this pic was broke out, i used to read about IU Eunhyuk rumors… it was around the time when she’s going to appear on Go Show. people are expecting she’s going to reveal that she’s in relationship right now because the way it being preview by the show pd, it looks like she’s going to reveal everything… hence, the couple items rumors surfaces…. even their name are trended at Naver and these are all before the picture being accidentally slip on twitter… after saw all these so called “proofs” that they’re an item, i just brush it off because it’s not worth it since it just another couple items thing so not strong enuff >.<
    well until i saw the news on this pic… leaked by this clumsy-twitter-illiterate girl xD
    just wishing the best tho… really hope that this thing will fade down… and she can comeback with a better concept that more close to her than the image-making her company made her….

    cause i read some comments that still supporting her at nate pann, as long as she comeback with a better concept that's far from cuteness, her fans of her voice and talent will still supporting her. she's a talented singer-songwriter so it's sad if this thing will kill her career… 

    • http://twitter.com/miss_shushi ms_shushi

      you know..i really like you, as fellow IU fans i mean xD (i saw your comments about IU in many sites)
      I like IU because of her talents, so this issue didn’t affect my love for her…sure, i’m quite disappointed at first but i get over it since i’m an adult who can already think rationally,unlike a lot of crazy fans-.- 
      i think you’re one of IU true fans that won’t be affected with mere scandal…as her fan, i want to support her the way she is, not someone her company made her be. somehow i think IU can use this opportunity to be someone that she wanted to be, singing the songs she always wanted to sing and just be…herself. i’ll wait for her new album and i hope she really shows what she got in that album…continue supporting IU^^

      • specky203

        let’s us all just support her… like you, I like her as singer IU first before the National Little Sister IU. so even if this thing happen to her, I just hope that she still can stand back up again and make great music more in the future ^^

  • specky203

    before this pic was broke out, i used to read about IU Eunhyuk rumors… it was around the time when she’s going to appear on Go Show. people are expecting she’s going to reveal that she’s in relationship right now because the way it being preview by the show pd, it looks like she’s going to reveal everything… hence, the couple items rumors surfaces…. even their name are trended at Naver and these are all before the picture being accidentally slip on twitter… after saw all these so called “proofs” that they’re an item, i just brush it off because it’s not worth it since it just another couple items thing so not strong enuff >.<
    well until i saw the news on this pic… leaked by this clumsy-twitter-illiterate girl xD
    just wishing the best tho… really hope that this thing will fade down… and she can comeback with a better concept that more close to her than the image-making her company made her….

    cause i read some comments that still supporting her at nate pann, as long as she comeback with a better concept that's far from cuteness, her fans of her voice and talent will still supporting her. she's a talented singer-songwriter so it's sad if this thing will kill her career… 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

    I was waiting for this, I knew somebody would write about it. The two looked very intimate in the picture,Eunhyuk looked shirtless and IU’s wearing pajamas.I’m a fan of Super Junior but I didnt care if they really are together nor care if any of them in SJ have relationships since they are old enough, just the fact that she was the one who uploaded it in her twitter made me think how careless she is.Then she took it down in minutes and LOEN came up with that lamest statement ever which made it worse. I expected a harsher backlash just like everyone else but IU and Eunhyuk continued with their activities. With SM not saying anything was probably the best thing for the issue to die down, LOEN should’ve done the same thing.
    I guess I’m not gonna see her in variety for sometime, she used to be a guest on a lot of popular shows. And well they have to think of another concept for her I know she’s talented I’m just not into her kind of songs.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

    I was waiting for this, I knew somebody would write about it. The two looked very intimate in the picture,Eunhyuk looked shirtless and IU’s wearing pajamas.I’m a fan of Super Junior but I didnt care if they really are together nor care if any of them in SJ have relationships since they are old enough, just the fact that she was the one who uploaded it in her twitter made me think how careless she is.Then she took it down in minutes and LOEN came up with that lamest statement ever which made it worse. I expected a harsher backlash just like everyone else but IU and Eunhyuk continued with their activities. With SM not saying anything was probably the best thing for the issue to die down, LOEN should’ve done the same thing.
    I guess I’m not gonna see her in variety for sometime, she used to be a guest on a lot of popular shows. And well they have to think of another concept for her I know she’s talented I’m just not into her kind of songs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lucaswoodstock Lucas Oliveira Dantas

    i really liked this article because, for the first time on my korean-pop readings, someone has spread the spotlight to all the international fandom.

    i am from brazil and its an international notion that we could be called as the PERFECT opposite to south korean conservatorship:

    - first, all of brazil is rio de janeiro and the amazon forest [that, in fact, aren't even close to each other];
    - the country is SOOOOO hot that we walk around with our asses and pussies hanging out all year, like it’s carnaval;
    - we pretty much have sex with everyone and thing we can encounter;
    - our pets are monkeys, alligators and anacondas;
    - and at last, we are as poor as africa – simply because everything under the equatorian line is africa, except for australia.

    ever since i’ve become a k-pop fan i’ve come across all kinds hate, sexism, racism, homophobia etc, towards pretty much everything, and most of them din’t come from asian but american and european people. i even know some brazilian k-pop fans that – blimey! – say what they most like about k-pop is korean culture’s conservatorship!

    so, what i mean is that netizens [from all over the world] will pick up and choose anything that matches with their own cultural beliefs and ways of thinking. they will recognize any type of conservatorship and point that out as if its the foreigner’s problem: KOREA is racist, BRAZIL is too liberal and nasty!

    but by doing so they’re only revealing how THEY perceive the world.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lucaswoodstock Lucas Oliveira Dantas

      and on an additional comment: it’s not like k-pop media outlets serve us of any help.

      my very first k-pop scandal was this year’s t-ara supposed bullying on hwayoung. and although the outcome has become pretty bad for the girls – in terms of popularity, side jobs and product endorsements – k-pop “news” websites [allkpop i'm looking at you!] made it seem that AAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL OF KOREA was shocked by the said facts and engaged on terminating t-ara members’ and CCM’s careers.

      they all made it seem that all of south korea was on that online anti-café DEMANDING THE TRUTH ABOUT T-ARA! as if the WHOOOOOOOOLE nation cared about that. as if the whole nation actually cared about k-pop and its idols’ lives.

      soooooooo, when your informations come from such sources, it’s even kind of understandable that you behave and think like a big ignorant moron. just a little bit…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=620908571 Katie Senn

    I really appreciate the attention paid in this article to the concept of foreign views of Korea.  I think it’s absolutely true that unless you have been to a country for an extended period of time, it’s difficult to perceive things as they really are.  I’m glad that it’s been pointed out and I can be careful to guard against my own biases while learning about K-Pop and appreciating the variety of Korean culture, because it’s certainly not limited to the Korean Wave.  Thank you!

  • Nabeela

    Patricia, I love you. 

  • Black_Plague

    You know, for a moment when I saw that photo the first time, I thought Eunhyuk was extremely drunk or had taken drugs XD.

  • soluiz

    After not dropping by for a long time, I’m reminded again why i stopped coming here. The black face racism incident doesn’t even make sense to Asians. if it’s anything international fan reactions are the same as Koreans albeit a much smaller scale. Community plays a big part

  • BishieAddict

    Well…SM didn’t agree with Loen. They just didnt comment about it, which was good because why should they comment about their artist’s private life. This whole losing the innocent image happened back in the 90s/early 2000s with Britney.

  • superrobina

    I… I just cannot agree more with this artice. It’s all so true.

  • black_rose45000

    I’m confused. How do you upload pictures accidentally? I mean, compromising pictures.

    “Sure, there’s the added fact that Korean fans have been well aware of a
    possible relationship between Eunhyuk and IU long before the scandal
    broke out to the rest of the world”
    Oh really? Had no idea. lol.

    “Honestly, though, I know that IU is lovely but isn’t it obvious that
    she’s a fox? ㅋㅋ She doesn’t look all that innocent so where’s all this
    shock coming from”
    Ikr? After watching Heroes, I totally sensed she wasn’t the good-natured, innocent girl (not sexually speaking, just her personality.)

  • lordofreimes

    Okay, I was going to make a detailed comment disagreeing with your view about how Korea’s “backwards culture” is mostly a Western imperialist conception…

    …but then my brain trailed off thinking about how freaky IU can get

  • http://twitter.com/denzelwynter Ashley B

    Sorry IU… but damn, where is your taste? You could have had your pick of nearly every male idol, and you choose Eunhyuk?! What a waste!

  • kkachi

     I just had this conversation a Korean last week.  She was angry about
    the IU thing until I pointed out that she’s probably more angry with
    herself for believing the image of IU that was built around her.  It’s
    the same with Hyuna.  In interviews, Hyuna comes across as being aware
    that when she performs solo, she is almost a hypersexual caricature of
    herself, and she seems to try to separate Hyuna the person from Hyuna
    the singer.  

  • http://twitter.com/dewaanifordrama dewaanifordrama

    Excellent article! – may I just suggest that international fans also not be judged/lumped into a whole group of people uninformed of Korean culture and norms. It’s exactly what you say international fans do about Korea. 

  • Tina DeWeese

    I don’t understand how someone could look at this photo and think of sex. They look like two normal people taking a silly photo. Based on this picture, I wouldn’t even assume they were dating let alone having sex.

  • 1234eun

    KOREA’S NATIONAL LITTLE BITCH XP 

    • Gaya_SB

      Classy.

  • http://twitter.com/sereneione sereneione

    You are so spot on. Rather than the Koreans, it was the internationals who were going crazy about it, scaring themselves silly in the process like there was no tomorrow. IU fans were going to mess up Eunhyuk’s mother’s bakery on opening day. Eunhyuk’s schedules had been cancelled. Slap in the face #1: opening day was as normal as can be. Slap in the face #2: he recorded Star King as originally scheduled. 

    It was like they WANTED all these things to happen. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=567772000 Alexis Reed

    i don’t think that it’s so crazy to imagine that they had sex. i totally believe it. i’d say koreans largely have great sex lives. go anywhere in seoul; there’s a love hotel on every street. people freak out about it because these are their ‘idols’, but they have lives too. honestly, i’m perfectly fine with the idea of them getting it on (i mean come on… he’s shirtless and with the nation’s little sister. how should he resist? furthermore, i’m sure iu has seen him body roll at least once on stage or in an mv), and i don’t see why people should feel the need to really defend her. sure, it affects her image as the nation’s little sister, but she certainly isn’t naked or getting teabagged xD now THOSE are scandals hahahaha

  • Downunderdiva

    We all know that handphone photos of a micro-section of life can be misleading and misconstrued. Those with an overactive imagination will make whatever they will of any situation. Only Eunhyuk and IU, and whomever else was present at the time of the infamous pic know the true situation, and anything else is speculation and rumour-mongering.

    OR…

    Perhaps IU, without LOEN’s knowledge or consent, is trying to forge a more ‘adult’ image for herself, with a staged photo, flashed for just the right amount of time on twitter to be caught and create tongues wagging.

    Forget it, and seek something real.

  • JKrow

    So… you guys missed the death threats and people calling her a slut, then?

  • Jo Eun Ji(JJSIU)

    YOU ARE ALL JUST JEALOUS of IU…lol …so STOP THE NONSENSE COMMENTS AND RUMORS…Arasso!!!!