• gowhalego

    Your points can be applied to global pop markets and not only to Kpop in particular (though Kpop probably flaunts its artificiality most explicitly). 

    While you are most probably right in suggesting that no individuality is allowed for Korean singers, it will be a mistake to denounce all Kpop as unoriginal (“Being at its core a product, it’s impossible to believe that K-pop as a whole is a source of creative energy and originality.”) I think originality exists but as a result of massive collaboration amongst different individuals in the background (stylists, producers, etc). I feel that a certain kind of creativity is still needed to produce something worth selling, which must necessitate some level of freshness to constantly evoke interest. It is a different form of creativity from say, an indie songwriter’s tunes or lyrics. However, it must be noted that while these heartfelt indie songs might be individualized, they need not necessarily be creative or fresh.  

    That saying, I like how your bring up G-Dragon and does not valorize him as the paragon of individual originality in a sea of Korean idols. G-Dragon is my favourite Korean artiste but I constantly tell myself to hold some level of skepticism to the praise levelled at him, especially in areas like songwriting, song producing and styling which are likely to involve other professional opinions other than just his alone. 

  • illerz

    I wrote about just this on another article. About the illusions that we love. That no matter how much we think we know an idol its just a mask and at times we think we see their true self shining through. And you can but then they get berated for it in some capacity. Its like these companies stuff these idols into a premade box lopping off any extra “limbs” sticking out. They have to fit into this idol box or else. If their image is to be cute, then they better be cute if their image is to be sexy they better be sexy whether or not it fits their personality. And only after a little fame can they step out of this box a little and stretch. But they can’t stray too far from this image or they get stuffed right back in.

    Snsd don’t sell as well when they are trying to be badass as when they are cutesy. Its their gimmick as a group that along with this power of 9 thing.  The reason I enjoy YG artists more (minus tablo cause I’ve loved him forever he doesn’t count in this) than the other Companies entertainment is because they at least present me with an illusion of originality. A facade of an attempt if you will and I appreciate it for what it is. Its either a facade of cutesy-family or beastly-fam or orginal-fam. I guess everyone has a favorite.

    I keep wondering why we can’t just have an idol who isn’t pre-made to the T. But then he wouldn’t be an idol would he/she. An idol who isn’t manufactured to apparent perfection?! God forbid. A real personality presented to us to take in. Would that be so bad? Even some of the flaws these idols present are manufactured for our squeel.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H6TCIIUUM2JDA4QTPIJMELHQW4 Jake

    as far as i know gd wasn’t taught to be a composer

    • ltlne

      he was actually. both he and teddy were taught by perry. and afaik, top also received training.

      composition is part of yg’s training programme. but i don’t know if it’s mandatory or if it’s for those trainees who’re interested or show some talent in that area.

  • whirlypop

    Gee is an over glorified copy of Tell Me.

    • http://twitter.com/Mtab_9241 Mtab

      No one in Korea Republic really seemed to care though.

      • http://twitter.com/h8hazee hazee

        How about that.

      • whirlypop

        And no one in the internet cares about your bitterness.

    • ggoma

       Both are annoying as hell.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LL4QDJLVFDT2RDIZYBALSE75JE angel29

    This article confuses me.  Are we talking about the INDIVIDUALITY of the artists or the ORIGINALITY of kpop?

  • http://twitter.com/h8hazee hazee

    Nothing is hipster enough for seoulbeats, apparently.

    • http://twitter.com/LaavaK90 Lava

      seriously seoulbeats preaches origionality way too much and also seems to think that the west is so completely origional, they come off a little pretentious sometimes

      • illerz

        Actually on this its more not everything has to be original. But SOMETHING that’s original or original once in a while would be nice.

        Or I shouldn’t say original DIFFERENT is a better word.

      • Alex O.

        I would say that SeoulBeats looks at things from a realistic point of view. There are definitely things that I think are true, like if SM continues to do what it does now, K-Pop will never become truly successful in the West, particularly in the States.

        Personally I think this “originality” problem stems from the fact that K-Pop tends to stick to a formula. A lot of Western music also sticks to a certain formula, especially pop, but there are also a lot of songs that don’t. Furthermore, SM would be more likely choose a pretty face w/ a subpar voice over an average face with an amazing voice. While singing can be trained, there’s often more emphasis on appearance. Also there’s a certain ideal of beauty in the agency and in Korea as a whole so a lot of the idols fit in a very specific category of “beauty.” Furthermore, there’s hardly any cultural diversity. However, I would definitely agree that originality isn’t necessary for success.

        I just think people need to consider the merits of the article before criticizing it.

        • http://twitter.com/LaavaK90 Lava

          Oh I definetly see their point of view and agree with what they’re saying, but this is the gazillionth article where kpop’s unorigionality has been discussed, I’d like to see a different point of view from the writers that’s all, I’m finding more and more that the same topics are being recylced with the exact same point of view.

  • http://twitter.com/stelmw02 Lastelza

    TELL ME by the Wonder Girls back in 2007 was the first girl group song that used the catchy phrase and tune formula along with easy, synchronised dance steps that could be followed by the general public. All other catchy girl group songs used this formula afterwards.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MEGAH5NUOS6RD2OYMMJ4XS2LCY MariaI

      THIS.

    • Suzy3

      Yes!!! Ppl who say Gee was the 1st catchy KPOP song is obviously a new fan. Tell Me was the 1st. To all the “new” fans just remember, your favs (Mid 2007-present) live in the house that Wonder Girls built. BOOM.

      • http://twitter.com/fah2ma Fatouma

        I could have easily chosen any girl group prior to Girls’ Generation, but I preferred Girls’ Generation because they were a lot more of girls groups who replicated Girls’ Generation’s concept, number of members and songs….

        If you really wanted to say who was truly first though, every girl group is living in the house that S.E.S. built.

        • Suzy3

          Im not even talking about the number of members. There’s a lot of girl groups that made catchy songs after Tell Me. I see you want to get technical yes S. E. S did. Girls groups didn’t get popular until 2007-present. That is why I said Mid 2007-Present in parenthesis.

          • http://twitter.com/fah2ma Fatouma

            I beg to differ, seeing the amount of success that girl groups like S.E.S., Finkl, and Baby V.O.X. received during their years. True, they didn’t get as much international success in comparision to groups like the Wonder Girls and Girls’ Generation, but saying that girl groups weren’t popular until 2007 isn’t a fair statement. Seeing as everyone is berating me for a technicality, hopefully my technical response can show that, as I’ve pointed out in my article, that anyone can easily trace back to another group who had the same concept, song etc. The concept of a hook song was nothing new in K-pop during 2007 and 2009, but I preferred using Girls’ Generation because of the response the industry had to Gee and its accompanying concepts, in terms of being replicated. Yes, Tell Me did acquire the Wonder Girls a lot of success, but Nobody is everyone’s go-to single when they think of the Wonder Girls, as well as their retro concepts.

          • Suzy3

            Maybe I should not have said popular.  I’m not taking away of S.E.S., Finkl, & Baby V. O. X success. What I meant was after the success of Tell Me a lot of girl groups started using CATCHY hooks. A lot of people responded to Tell Me as well. Here’s one ex. -> the dance craze. The concept of a hook song was nothing new in ’07 & ’09? If you take WG out of the girl group list (S.E.S – Kara) then who started the hook songs? Most of their songs had long chorus.

          • http://twitter.com/fah2ma Fatouma

             Again, I’m going to say S.E.S. The hook song is a must in pop music, K-pop would have been nothing in its beginning without hook songs.

          • Suzy3

            Which song had a catchy hook?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003640656299 Belong Toyou

    Whether Tell Me or Gee was first to use catchy phrases, as long as the songs are good, I’m fine with it. 
    I think the competition is not who did first but who did better.
    And some fans are taking it so seriously when they saw another idol almost similar to their bias idols, whether it’s music or looks.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MEGAH5NUOS6RD2OYMMJ4XS2LCY MariaI

      Tell me, not Gee.

  • JammySmoochie

    I have already gotten over Kpop’s lack of originality a long time ago. But it doesn’t make me love it less. Good music is good music. Everything else is forgivable.

  • zweiosterei

    That quote from Voltaire reminds of that one from Picasso: “Good artists copy but great artists steal”. I believe K-pop is original and creative within its own realm. And that’s what makes it a breath of fresh air in the pop music world. The special sensibility and craft of korean composers, producers, performers, etc., results in a  fantastic product, extremely enjoyable and relatable. It’s not about originality, it’s about talent, and that’s what makes it creative.

  • kk

    Badly researched article. 

    Gee was a copy of Tell Me, and Hot.

    “G-Dragon is not a professional composer.” How does one become a professional? By going to school for it? Creative talent is something you’re either born with or without. No matter how hard some study or train for it, they will be forever mediocre, prime example is Super Junior. 

    G-Dragon is known for choosing his own stage outfits a lot of times. His only gimmick is that he knows he’s the shit, and he works hard to be the shit.

    TOP was the one that wanted to dye his hair blue, not YG.

    Basically you’re not talking about originality or individuality, but rather, marketing and creative process, which in your opinion is bad. Big Bang is a terrible example since they’re so involved. 2NE1 would’ve worked better.

    • theonetwo

       lol way to put down super junior while at the same time putting g-dragon and big bang on a pedestal.

      • kk

        i didn’t say anything bad about super junior, whether you’re a fan or not, they trained for an average of 6 years, they are not born with talent. they are good dancers and singers because they achieved it through hard work. many fans are attracted to super junior because of that quality. if you can not see that, then lol why did i even bother to speak to you with reason.

        also i didn’t put g-dragon or big bang on a pedestal, i was merely stating FACTS, that were wrongly stated in the article. in no way did i say g-dragon is so original or big bang is the only group that shows individuality, because those would be an opinion. 

        lol way to not focus on the point of discussion while at the same time putting words into my mouth.

        • theonetwo

          lol you should really reread your comment about super junior again and maybe you’ll actually get it.

          here,  let me try to help you.

          “Creative talent is something you’re either born with or without. No
          matter how hard some study or train for it, they will be forever
          mediocre, prime example is Super Junior.”

          explain to me how thats not a put down???  did you mention super junior are good dancers in that post?  no.  did you mention they are good singers in that post?  no.  i did however read the word mediocre though. 

          lol you mention hard work in your second post talking about super juniors achievements but in your first post you CLEARLY state that no matter how hard some work they will be FOREVER mediocre because they werent born with talent.  PRIME EXAMPLE super junior.  CONTRADICTION MUCH?!?!?!

          now when youre putting down super junior and you even name drop 2ne1 and have nothing but praise for big bang because apparently they can do no wrong then YES, you are putting them on a pedestal.  if you can not see that then lol why did i even bother to speak to you using reason.

          lol way to blame me for the words that clearly came out of your own mouth. smh … kpop fans these days.

          • kk

            i stand by what i said. 

            lol way to not focus on the point of discussion while at the same time putting words into my mouth.

          • theonetwo

            youre a big bang stan who got offended because big bang was “attacked” in the article and you came to their defense by putting down other idol groups.

            seen it plenty of times in the kpop community.  nothing new

          • kk

            lol

    • http://twitter.com/LaavaK90 Lava

      agreed 2ne1 really would have been a perfect example

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pha-KabYing-Linda-Thao/100002629230600 Pha KabYing Linda Thao

    I think the question to really ask is what place and value “originality” really has in today’s world. I know that everyone wants everything to be “real” and finds it shocking when they find out that their favorite artists may just be manufactured. I know I was. But, I also know that there have been some original songs from self-produced, self-made artists that I don’t like. Therefore, originality doesn’t automatically mean something is going to be good. Yes, having both is a plus, but doesn’t really mean that one has to come from the other. You aren’t always “good” even when you’re original.

    I think the main issue brought up by this article is one that’s been heard so many times before: the way that k-pop is produced, marketed, and presented isn’t original or organic, and that takes something away from k-pop being considered real music. Yes, k-pop is heavily commercialized and manufactured. I’m not trying to deny or dismiss that fact. However, I am saying that that fact is not very important when you look at the grand scheme of things.

    Back to the question I brought up earlier, just how important is originality to music? Many consider it a criteria, and a very strong one at that, but it’s also important to understand that not everyone approaches music the same way. Some are very serious about music, while others just listen to it to enjoy it as it is. Is any way better than the other? No. I think as long as everyone can enjoy what they want, everything’s fine. For someone who takes music seriously to demand that others do so too is ridiculous. For someone who just listens to ask those serious music critics to just chill and enjoy the music is also ridiculous. Why? It just creates an unnecessary divide based on subjectivity where neither side really gains anything but a bad image of each other.

  • http://arbitrary-greay.livejournal.com/ Arbitrary_greay

    So what?

    This is a question that this article sorely lacks. There’s an attempt at hypothesizing a consequence to Kpop “being at its core a product,” “an industry grounded on selling the shiniest, and palatable product for the mass population,” in the implication that quality will continue to degrade until the market implodes, but such an implication is neither probable nor even undesirable. 

    For starters, Jpop idolling has been going strong for decades with music ridiculously stale and/or removed from mainstream appeal, and idols in both Jpop and Kpop are currently the only artists able to achieve physical CD sales that the digital age has rendered impossible for others. 
    Next, the last sentence in the article kind of negates itself with regards to the consequence: the Kpop market fundamentally cannot be sucked dry because there will always be “something new to pique the interest of the majority.” If lacking creativity was such a bad thing for business, then pop culture itself would not exist. But what the article fails to consider is that Kpop is not linked to a time period. Kpop as we know it now may indeed implode to to super-saturation with groups that do nothing new, but guess what, that also happened when the first wave of groups in HOT/GOD/SES/Finkl died, paving the way for the current crop of groups. Pop culture marches on. 

    Secondly, the article claims that Kpop inherently cannot be creative nor original, which is simply not true. See gowhalego’s comment below. The article points that idols are created by other people and puts this as the reason Kpop lacks originality, as if that discounts the creative efforts of the people who create them. If Kpop was so stale and unoriginal, why is it getting buzz from music critics praising how it’s fresh and creative compared to the American pop music market?
    I also wrote a looooooong rant against the bias against performers not creating their own music on Seoulbeats before, and it still stands. *checks* Yep, classical musicians are still held in higher credibility than idols, even though they don’t do anything new except give their own interpretation to the music (that they didn’t write!) they are playing, which is no different from what idols do. Why the double standard? 

    But even if we allow the assumption that Kpop is not creative nor original, so what?
    http://www.cultofpop.com/old/2005/06/why-jpop-part-five-cult-of.html 
    There is a space in pop culture where we don’t want or need originality, and idols epitomize that space. But it’s a fact that is obvious, and at the point at which the article does not have a point in pointing this out, lacking a “so what?” what’s the point of writing such an article? 

    The sky is blue with a partial cloud cover and the grass is green with some yellow and brown today. 

    • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

      Fresh and creative compared to the American pop music market?….I’m pretty sure the people who grew up during the 90′s in America can tell you that what K-pop is doing isn’t Fresh or Creative. 

      We been there, done that….nothing new

      • theonetwo

        i agree.  it might be new to some people today but its not new when it comes to the entertainment industry here in the US.

        im joking when i say people think that the whole boy/girl band concept was created by kpop.  obviously thats not true but the sad thing is i wouldnt be surprised if i see comments similar to that going around the kpop community.

        this was a while ago but ive already read some kpop fans of certain boy bands trash on the backstreet boys and nsync.  hilarious …

        • http://arbitrary-greay.livejournal.com/ Arbitrary_greay

          Both the article and my comment were primarily talking about the music, not the system, which was never considered original. Kpop ripped it from Jpop, who ripped it from America, who ripped it from themselves all the way back to vaudeville acts in the early 1900s. 

          • http://twitter.com/fah2ma Fatouma

             My article is talking about K-pop as a whole, which includes the music, AND the system and the industry behind it. So, it just seems like your comment is just about the music….

          • http://arbitrary-greay.livejournal.com/ Arbitrary_greay

            My bad.

      • http://arbitrary-greay.livejournal.com/ Arbitrary_greay

        It’s subjective, sure, and I’m not really qualified to talk about it because I’m not so familiar with the sounds of the 90s. But some of the music critics I’ve been following think Kpop is doing something that give their music life where it falls flat when Americans attempt something similar. It may be nothing more than playing it straight and sincere where the Western culture of cynicism wouldn’t allow it, but sometimes that’s enough of a twist to make something fresh and appealing. Fuzzy interpretations of the definition of “creative” and all that.

        And Sturgeon’s Law applies to everything, of course, so I don’t deny that the majority of Kpop may be rehash. But that doesn’t discount Kpop as a whole, either. 

  • hippocampus123

    I think there’s a huge gap between intention and delivery here. B.Franklin once said that originality is merely the art of concealing your sources and I agree with that. Perhaps your intent was to focus on the manufactured and constricting nature of the kpop industries- which in reality is no different from Disney. Mass production of so-so music and debut of multiple groups are all great examples.

    It’s also what irks me about kpop. Even idols that do make their own music don’t seem to reflect their passion for it (not like western pop artists do either, but I digress) or perhaps they’re disillusioned by the industry. Idols, even when passionate often can’t release, or make the music that they want to. But a majority of them are in it as “entertainers” rather than musicians- so you can’t fault them either.  Anyway, ultimately it’s passion for their work that will elevate them from stars to legends, so we’ll see.

  • http://www.michelle-chin.com Michelle Chin

    Nothing is ever truly original when it comes to music. You hear Bach in Mendelssohn. You hear a little of Chopin in Rachmaninov. 

    It’s been this way back then. It’s going to be this way again in the near future. It’s all driven to suit the tastes of the public. If the majority of the public hates it, the piece is not going to survive. It’s sad but this is probably the way it works. 

    IMO, Kpop is quite different from Western pop despite sharing certain elements. I feel that it has a distinct flavor to it. Can’t really pinpoint what. 

    • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

      I say it’s heavily manufactured and sung in Korean. Other than those two, I don’t see a difference between K-pop and American pop

  • http://twitter.com/suimanstudio suimanstudio

    Personally I consider idol music ‘entertainment for the sole reason of entertaining’. 
    To be honest the quality and quantity of the industry has never raised questions in me. 
    My understanding of music is: if it entertains me in any way, I listen to it.

    What concerns me are the idols themselves and the inhumane exploitation they face. Music is a highly subjective matter and people can argue for ages what counts as originality, quality and value…

  • Black_Plague

    So long as the songs I listen to can make me write my zombie fan-fic in peace (as well as drawing a few scenes here and there), I wouldn’t mind if it was original or not.

    But then again, I’m very picky with the kind of music I listen to. If it can get me in a ‘high’ for brainstorming ideas and imagining the action scenes myself etc., it’s good. If not, I don’t even bother.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wellington-Henrique/100002130636683 Wellington Henrique

    sorry for this but that image is making me think, im the only one that makes the count whit the number on the shirt of then? The four that is in the right sight of the screen(if im not mistake is sooyun, jessica, seohyun and sunny) if you add all the number on the shirt will be 69 minus all the girls in the left side, that add will be 37, is 32 the number of hyoyon on the center.

    Sorry for post this that don’t have anything to do whit the article.

    • http://twitter.com/fah2ma Fatouma

       It’s all right, if this wasn’t my article, the first thing I would have noticed is G-Dragon in a rat suit, lol.

  • http://twitter.com/veria10 Veria

    You don’t stay in Kpop wanting originality – it’s obvious that key to Kpop is manufacturing and marketing the most profitable avenue to money. Sure when you first discover it you might find it all new and novel and original (I sure did), but after a while you realise… no. Just like all pop, originality is not first and foremost in the minds of the artists or entertainment companies. It’s there to sell.

  • goldengluvsk2

    i think we in music ,it doesnt matter if its kpop or not, got to a point where we wont find something original anymore… now its more like how you manage to give a twist to what its already made… when I found k-pop by accident in like 2009 it came to me in a time when I was so bored of western music i repeat B-O-R-E-D that at that time because all of a sudden all the bands i listened to were on hiatus/disbanded… i only listened to one band of the moment and all the other songs i listened to were “old” 90′s 2000′s songs from my favorite bands… obviously, it was nothing new but the way K-pop had their own fashion sense and twist to things captured me… k-pop right now is receiving attention and even praises from critics around the world so I wonder if the “manufactured” status also charmed critics… if we’re going to talk about manufactured music not being real music then we’ll need to erase britney spears f.e. from the map… because we all know her previous images and even her image now is manufactured by others but shes still the “princess of Pop” right?. I still dont expect my fav groups to pull an Adele or anything but I appreciate to have quality material, great performances and interesting concepts and music with a twist.

  • http://twitter.com/MrCKDexter Rachel

    I disagree with almost every statement in this article. Being original has little to do with being true to oneself and expressing oneself. That’s authenticity.

    In fact, K-pop is a wild explosion of creativity. The choreography, the fashion, the catchy music – they’re doing it bigger, shinier, and more fun than anyone else. I think what you disagree to is how manufactured K-pop is. Instead of one artistic vision, it’s dozens of creative people coming together to craft the catchiest damn product they can.

    It is sad when an artist is denied the opportunity to express themselves. CNBLUE revealing the disagreements they had with their agency comes to mind. But I think people need to let go of this preoccupation with originality, especially when it comes to pop. If it didn’t appeal to the masses, it wouldn’t be pop. If originality and creativity is what you want, try Pink Floyd.

    For future reference, I would recommend not quoting a dictionary. You were headed in a better direction with Voltaire.

    And to contribute a little more to the discussion of originality and creativity, here is “Everything is a Remix Part Three: The Elements of Creativity”:

    • Alex O.

      I think artists should be able to express themselves as well – but I think that the biggest problem is that while this is pop, there should still be a more unique sound for each group. Right now the formula of a lot of the songs, especially for nascent groups, is quite similar.

      Also, a lot of Western artists play some sort of role in contributing to the music, not just by singing, but also in music production. I think it would be nice to see some K-pop stars with these kinds of skills besides singing and dancing to the song they were given. I think the success of such contributions is very possible, especially given SHINee’s huge success with Juliette, which was written by Jonghyun. 

      I would also have to say the K-Pop isn’t quite that catchy or authentic. I thought this was pretty evident by non-K-pop fans’ reactions to SNSD’s performance on the David Letterman Show. Also, there’s this concept of boy/girl groups that the West has “gotten over.” I mean look at One Direction. Sure they’re successful, but they have a lot more haters than bands/solo singers and they’re frequently made fun of. Also SNSD’s Run Devil Run, though bought legally, was originally from Ke$ha. K-Pop’s sound, in a way, is sort of deriving from the Western one. It’s not wholly original. Furthermore, the West doesn’t condone aegyo so groups like 2NE1 or Big Bang would be more likely to succeed there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=513439726 Sharon Overlord

    Just because a company produces something does not mean it cant be original. U know, its actual people who come up with these ideas right? 

  • Timea B

     I think the concept “originality” is a bit overrated in your article. What is TRULY original nowadays? Everything we create tends to incorporate past experiences and knowledge, it’s the way of interpretation that can be original and thus creative. You think Lady Gaga is original in the dictionary sense? She’s basically a tuned up Madonna in weird makeup and more computer generated imigery in her MVs. Creative, hell yeah. But Kpop can be just as creative in their ways of interpretation too.

    As for artistic freedom, again, G-Dragon and Bigbang are aweful examples. You cite Haru haru and Lies, how about the rest of the songs. G-Dragon has contributed to a huge portion of BB songs, see http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-Dragon_%C3%A1ltal_%C3%ADrt_dalok_list%C3%A1ja How does a person become a professional songwriter? Does graduating from a composer major make you a professional composer? Or a good composer? Did John Lennon ghave a diploma in composing? A lot of the world’s most successful musicians and songwriters are self-taught musicians. I could cite most of the greatest Hungarian singer-songwriters as such, like our national cultural and music icon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81kos_Kov%C3%A1cs , who has a degree in foreign trade… Not music. It makes him unprofessional? With 20 something albums to his name as a producer/sing-songwriter? Or is it just that because he is not attached to a big agency, and he is not Korean, that he can be regarded a professional songwriter, while G-Dragon cannot, because he is under an agency and he is in Kpop? There are some big holes in the texture of your argument. 

    Also, you think American pop is not maufactured? Please, don’t make me laugh :) Did Madonna write all of her songs absolutely alone, that you condemn G-Dragon for being a contributor “only”?

    There is a thing called “talent”. You don’t need to be taught how to compose music. See Mozart… He started composing at the age of 6. Also, there are people you can keep teaching how to compose and they will never be able to compose hit songs. It’s not like “push this button and put that note there”. Like with most arts, you also need to be born a musician.

  • camaronciux

    I agree, kpop is just a copy, they just copied the song # take on me from the swedish group A-HA, what do these stupid guys think? that no one would notice it, that song is still great and original, they just spoiled a good song and they  deserved to be sued for that