• Gnattie

    That’s not a picture of So Jin’s cleavage. That’s a picture of her leaning on something so her breasts mush together to give the illusion of cleavage. Faux-cleavage.

    I think the bodies of the “bagel girls” above are sexier and prettier than the prepubescent bodies of SNSD. They’re all pretty, but I think the “bagel girls” have nicer, healthier figures.

  • http://thegrandnarrative.com/ The Grand Narrative

    Sorry, but I’m going to have to disagree with pretty much everything you wrote there.

    First, you seem confused with the origins of the term. It’s not that “most” Bagel girls have big breasts, ALL of them do. The term is a pun coming from the “ba” in the English “baby” and the “gul” in “glamor”, which means busty in Korean.

    Next, the term isn’t about proud voluptuous women making a statement about being curved, but rather one usually imposed on them by the Korean media, which thinks of a new inane term for women’s bodies every other week. In particular, Shin Se-kyung has actually explicitly rejected it.

    Finally, the term isn’t really about being cute at all, and shouldn’t be celebrated as such. It’s simply a physical description, for a woman with an unusually childlike face and big breasts, and used in a very sexualized fashion in Korea.

    Like you say, that’s a weird combination. But it gets even more problematic and offensive when you consider who it’s usually applied to: not, say, 30-something women and older, who might be happy being known for having younger-looking faces, but rather those in their late-teens and early-20s. Which when you think about it, is just borderline pedophilic really. After all, what kind of guy would be attracted to a young adult woman not only because she’s very visibly sexually mature from the neck down (which of course is fine by itself), but ALSO because she has a childlike face? Either a) they’re genuine pedophiles, who think young girls actually have the sexually-mature bodies and sex drives of women, like young girls are often portrayed in various kinds of manga and manhwa, or b), much more likely, they want a woman who ACTS like a child, which is kinda implied by wanting a woman that looks like one.

    Either way, what does it say about the Korean media that it holds that combination as some sort of feminine ideal?

    So, sorry again to be so critical, but I think you’re really off the mark here. Here’s some more links for more information about the term (sorry for the plug!):

    http://www.bust.com/blog/2011/09/27/south-korean-starlets-stuck-with-offensive-bagel-girl-label.html

    http://thegrandnarrative.com/2011/09/28/bagel-girl-korea/

    http://www.gordsellar.com/2010/12/20/the-land-of-the-morning-neologism/

    (Sorry for the MANY edits!)

    • http://twitter.com/maddys08 Madhuri Sharma

      THIS. You took the words right out of my mouth. I find it so creepy how obsessed they are with a women with a child like face.  

    • Nabeela

      Thanks explaining the term more explicitly, and I appreciate how you’ve explained your point of contention as well. I do agree with you as well; in some respects it can be disturbing, but I like to think (maybe even hope) that some sort of more progressive image about curves comes through bagel.

      I’ll definitely read up on those links! Thanks for reading!

    • Dylan

      Yay, it’s James! <3

    • seoulsx

       and why are you not writing for seoul beats?!? i’d prob read any blog you write.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000733800778 Mary Noona

        INCREDIBLY LATE, but he owns his own blog, thegrandnarrative.com, which is also about social commentary about the Korean Ent. Industry. 

  • maldita

    Bagel girl = Ba (baby) + gel (glamour). Glamor = voluptuous/curvy. I learned the meaning from watching a video of G.Na with 4Minute and one of the girls commented that leader Jihyun was a bagel girl. LMAO at G.Na’s face when she heard it and had to have someone explain what it meant.

  • http://twitter.com/soojin08 Camille

    When I see or hear that word, bread always comes to mind.  I don’t even know why.  Hahahahaha :)

    • Kpopboi

      uhhh… mabye.. because of the word ‘bagel’? .. I dunno, just sayin.

  • Oh Ji’s Ho

    This obsession that the Korean media (and part of the public) seemingly has with ‘childlike’ faces is somewhat disturbing.  Especially when coupled with the fact that the bagel girls have voluptuous figures not denoting of a child.

  • Anonymous

    i never really realized what bagel meant until they actually explained it which was baby face with a gorgeous body. i thought they resembles pastries or something because they’re delicious and whatnot lols

  • http://www.michelle-chin.com Michelle Chin

    terms like bagel girls, honey thighs and the likes are just ugh for me. why the association with food? Is it because it is appetitive? 

    For me, it’s just demeaning how they compare females to food. It’s like objectification in a different manner and it sort of imparts the message that they are up for grabs and consumption. Sorry if I sound a bit wishy washy but I caught this idea while I was revising my psych materials on dehumanization. 

    • Daydream

      I wonder if this is how guys feel when girls associate their abdomen with chocolate. hm…

      • http://www.michelle-chin.com Michelle Chin

        I find the term chocolate abs very distasteful as well. 

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  • Anonymous

    Even though I KNOW what a Bagel girl actually is, I always get this perverse image in my mind of like… a girl with a firmer version of a Muffin-top ~_~.

  • http://twitter.com/ovenfreshhhhh ovenfreshhhhh ☆

    I have nothing to say about the Korean idea of beauty because there are people out there who believe that flat-assed, saggy tits G.NA has a “good body”.

    Shin Min Ah and Shin Se Kyung are both fucking sexy, though. No homo.

    • Sliva

      Never thought that G.NA had or has a good body her body is plain weird. Super skinny legs, no waist and a big chest…..its just really weird.

  • fjunior

    Really cheap and desperate move from that Girl’s Day member, Sonji, in fact the group itself is so tasteless.
    4minute Jihyun and Secret Hyosung are also called as bagel girls. Will never get why koreans love to name this terms related to food. Chocolate abs? Honey thighs? Bagel girl? What else did I miss?

  • http://other-worldly.org Justine

    Damn. I just ate a bagel LMAO

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  • Lillerz

    Ha the day shin min ah is considered curvy. Lol So tiny the lot of them. I guess by korean standards.