• takasar1

    a tad hypocritical from gd, i mean who does he think he is fooling? as for ‘kpop’ it doesn’t exist, it is merely a blanket term that ignorant people often use to label mainstream korean music. how can you listen to songs like ‘sorry sorry answer’, ‘in heaven’ and ‘power’ yet believe that you are listening to pop music? ‘kpop’ is just a phase for most people and as long as the industry can readily replenish its fan ‘inventory’, if you will, then there shouldn’t be any major problems

    since economics has become a trademark of today’s article, allow me to point to the simple, related and aforementioned model: the supply & demand curve. as the name implies, the more of a product you have on offer, the less your demand and bargaining power is. however, this is a very recent phenomenon and it seems as if the ever-so smart korean businessmen behind the first hallyu wave have really no idea on how to control this epidemic, a result is that the domestic market is quickly slimming as people lose interest. i hope, for the sake of their bank balances, that overseas demand remains strong.

    • Jaclyn

      “a tad hypocritical from gd” I concur.

    • http://twitter.com/summerainshower summerainshower

      I don’t understand why this is hypocritical? Hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another. He’s saying that when producing, he TRIES to think less about music that just appeals to the masses. He IS TRYING to do different things with his music, especially on his solo album. He didn’t say “My music is only made for artistic value and I don’t care if the masses like it or not”. Just because he is a part of an industry doesn’t mean he can’t be critical of it and being critical is not the same as hypocritical.

      • takasar1

        he tries but trying is useless when you lack results to back you up. i prefer action instead of simply words

        • http://twitter.com/summerainshower summerainshower

          In what way does he lack results?

          • takasar1

            take a look at gd’s last album and tell me how his title track is different from the one in 2009 and TOPs ‘turn it up now’, all are, what i call, ‘boast tracks’ and i personally got nothing from the album that i enjoyed. the alive album was better but i am sure that if we dissect every single song in the album and take a look at other songs in the ‘kpop’ world, we will quickly find a similar one. the majority of his music is a fusion of hip hop, pop and electronica (along with the various constraints bound onto each genre), i personally dont see how gd can push the envelope with such a limited selection. not to mention the fact that almost every other idol group also focuses on these genres

          • http://twitter.com/summerainshower summerainshower

            Well, I disagree that Heartbreaker and One of a Kind are in any way similar. Heartbreaker leans more towards electronica whereas One of a Kind leans more towards hip pop. In addition, I can pull out Bad Boy which is more R&B and also several tracks from the One of a Kind mini which use little to no electronic music at all. I don’t pretend to be a musical expert, but I’m sure if we dissect any pop song, not just kpop, we can find something similar. I think GD is experimenting with his music, others may be doing so as well, but that doesn’t make GD a hypocrite. I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree since you have said that you find little to enjoy from the album and I found much to enjoy. Peace.

        • http://twitter.com/badmarkz Alfia Rahmawati

          or, he tries, but there’s that huge dominant power behind him that is YG. even epik high has to ‘bow down’ to it’s massive influence. i’ve never been a fan of both gd and epik high, but yeah, i don’t think i should disregard the possibility that (maybe) they’ve tried, but they didn’t really have a chance to actually show the result…

          • http://www.facebook.com/chibijoshie Josh Chinnery

            Exactly. Producing and writing your own music doesn’t mean a thing if you’re being manipulated by your company. I like a lot of YG’s (somewhat) unique brand of blended hip hop and electropop, but I’m not gonna come out my mouth for a second and think that 2NE1, BIGBANG, and Lee Hi are any less “manufactured” than other K-Pop groups.

  • http://twitter.com/silverukiss Silver

    Of course from what I’ve heard, idol bands are now making a large percent of their profit off of overseas demands, instead of from Korea. So even if South Korea is growing very weary of so many idol bands, the overseas might not do so as fast. I can only name maybe 8 or 10 new bands I can remember having heard of from 2012. So even though there’s 70 new bands that debuted, I don’t think a lot of the international market even hears about all of them. So in their eyes there aren’t nearly as many new bands as someone from South Korea might realize there are. So like Takasar said, as long as the overseas demand remains strong enough, it can keep the idol bands going.

  • muggle87

    i get what he trying to saying… there are many groups i thought sound alike… some even going to extend of mimic top groups. they don’t even try to bring something fresh to the game.

  • dsherpa

    Tablo’s comments on the Korean music industry

    “Well, there’s not that much a diversity…as in genres and styles…There’s not much ROCK; there’s not much HIP-HOP…

    But you really cannot blame the artists because there’s not much demand…

    It’s very uniformed.” Tablo, 2009

  • a_liking

    if we’re talking economics :) in the short run “perfect competition” world, firms (the entertainment agencies) will enter the market (for kpop) and produce goods (kpop idol groups & songs) as long as there is a profit to be made. eventually, there will be so many firms that there will be no more profit — then no new firms will enter and you reach a “long run equilibrium”. theoretically this is good for the consumer because more firms = less market power = more competition = lower prices and more innovation. … but we all know the real world doesn’t always work like theory :)

  • Ditu3ka

    “a lot of the same thing”

    Thank you, I can use the phrase for so many things ….

  • severely

    It’s obvious what’s going to change the market: consumer tastes. Consumers will eventually get bored of something (for example, the way dubstep isn’t as big as it used to be), the groups that thrived on that something will fall, and some other “new” thing will take their place (“new” being relative to whatever the old big thing was, not necessarily new as in innovative or original).

  • http://twitter.com/summerainshower summerainshower

    It’s been apparent for a while now that the kpop market is oversaturated. It’s actually became boring for me recently because I can’t keep up with the new groups and my old favorite groups hardly make a comeback – and when they do, it’s 3 weeks and gone. I actually think the Psy phenomenon may have been the beginning of the end. I remember living on the anticipation that my kpop favorites would get more recognition internationally, but now? Shrugs. I don’t know.

  • VipVip

    Nice quote there by GD.

    Kinda agree with this tbh. Even if kpop music may have many different sounds, I’ve always found it easy to throw them all under the same genre because of the uniform way of doing music, from the concepts and the marketing to the way they express the “influences” of hip hop, jazz, r’n'b, in the music. Kpop may strive for a morphing musical sound but it’s still quite easy to differentiate between kpop and, let’s say, k-indie. This means kpop doesn’t represent Korean music as a whole and that Korean music has a lot more to offer than just kpop.

    And all these debuts that don’t bring anything new to the table only generate a more generic kpop sound. Hopefully this will not discourage people to still put out new kind of music and try to break free from the box kpop has so conveniently put itself in. Or perhaps I’m just being naive.

  • http://twitter.com/babycokes Loca.

    I’ll never understand when people say he is being a hypocrite because IMO, he IS actually trying. He and YG artists have produced songs with influences from different genres like Bad Boy, Light It Up (hip hop) to Cafe (Jazz) to Crayon (which is… I don’t even know what that was but it was different for sure). BB esp GD tend to have music that sounds quite different from the mainstream. Maybe I am delusional but really? I think it is quite evident that GD tries to explore, no?

    • theonetwo

      he might be trying but its still pop music. until there is a demand for other genres the main focus for korean entertainment groups will be kpop and cookie cutter boy/girl groups.

      • http://twitter.com/babycokes Loca.

        Hmm I wouldn’t say a couple of those examples I gave are pop but yeah, its true he still does pop. But then again we don’t know whether he is making pop music because he likes the sound (got to admit fantastic baby it pretty sick whether its mainstream or not :P) or whether it is for the money.. who knows?..

        • theonetwo

          its both i imagine. he likes pop music and it pays decent im assuming. gdragon will always be known as a kpop artist unless he drastically changes his sound which i doubt will ever happen.

  • http://twitter.com/badmarkz Alfia Rahmawati

    sorry it’s kinda off topic… but who are the boys in the 2nd picture? and why are they relevant with this article?

  • Lina90

    I actually quite understand why many ppl said GD’s quotes as hypocrite one. While he said everywhere that he don’t like being labeled as kpop for long term and said the quote above. He still produced something that still pretty much kpop (*cough*fantastic baby*cough). Tho he had qood point there, I like to think he’s actually in kind of dilemma as well. He had said while he have fun with his music, he still realized that he is in kpop industry. Thus he maintain that mainstream appeal. Especially for bigbang that he once said, walked in more mainstream road. Not that it’s bad. I still love bb-alive album. Bad Boy and ego in still alive are gems. But I like he is being more experimental in his OOAK album or in GDTOP one too. While it’s also not that different tho. (you see *cough* “crayon” and hence after that ppl said GD composed IGAB from GG coz he released something like crayon) He got that point, he realized the phenomenon, he maybe trying but still pretty far to dare to change the scene.. Well we can expect tho..

  • TheJadeBullet

    I actually don’t fault GD for what he’s said, no matter how much of a hypocrite he may be considered to be as a result. Kpop is a dog-eat-dog world, as with any industry, ever. I see this as him lamenting the fact that he can’t be as original as he would like to be, or that he isn’t able to really produce the type of music that he may want to, since hey, he’s already found his winning formula. Why would management (ie YG) encourage him to experiment with sounds so far outside the box that is mainstream kpop if his current repetitive style is what sells? It’s all about the money in the end and if running a trend into the ground is what it takes to be successful, then expect him to duplicate and triplicate his sound forever and ever. I don’t personally take any fanatical interest in GD’s style of music, and I’m not blindly defending his statement, I just think that behind all the obnoxious “swag” he does have some originality that we may never hear if he has no plans of leaving his major label.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1051780171 Tan Wei Lun

    In one gigantic leap I went from disliking GD to total respects. I always assumed he was just a repetitious drone for the banal industry, but turns out he’s a slave worker forced to make boring ‘hits’ just to keep his job. Go indie! I assume he’s rich and famous enough to do well on his own.