• bigmamat

    Will this diss war have an effect on the popularity of rap and hip hop in Korea? Probably not because you don’t have the same saturation of exposure that you do with Kpop. After all Kpop has more than just music to promote itself. Rappers have had a difficult time in Korea. Rap is a musical genre that by it’s very nature is designed to push boundaries, political, cultural and social. Not exactly an art form that would be embraced in a place like S.Korea where tradition and conformity are considered virtues. After all, rap shook up the music world in the U.S. when it was first getting notice and it still does occasionally today.

    Could a Korean become a big name rapper in the U.S.? Maybe this is just wishful thinking but I’d like to think yes. If anyone from Korea could make it in the U.S. it would be a rapper. I believe this for two reasons. First of all, despite the occasional diss American rappers are respectful of mad skills. In other words they recognize talent and are very often not shy about showing love for each other. They also love to collaborate and the more famous they get the more they collaborate. This is how I see a Korean rapper breaking into the U.S. market. I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that when you see a Korean entertainer with their arm around an American celeb it’s usually a rapper. Just today there was a picture of some Kpop chickie with Pharrell.

    The language barrier shouldn’t be a problem. There is no reason that someone like Jay Park or Tablo or any other rapper fluent in english couldn’t make it in the U.S. They would just have to produce records in English. I know Tiger tried it back in the day. The U.S. just wasn’t ready for an Asian rapper at the time. His fate belonged in Korea, and I know a lot of Koreans are happy it did. I just don’t see any Korean making it big in the U.S. without English, rap or Kpop.

    Finally I think rap is a perfect genre for translating a korean perspective that Americans might find appealing. There is something very poetic about the Korean psyche that would appeal to followers of rap. Rap is a genre that doesn’t suffer phonies well. Americans who listen to rap want it to be real. If a Korean comes along with the right intro and a good honest message I think Americans might listen.

    • Doom Starks

      There is no way in hell Jay Park is making it Stateside as a rapper, That babyfaced “rapper” and I’ll use the term loosely in his case is no lyricist he’s nothing special you might be able to make the argument he’s a good entertainer but that’s not nearly enough JK was already recognized stateside at least in the underground early on when he was just starting out. I really don’t see why people bring up any Korean celebrity snapping pictures with any celebrity what does that prove except they asked for a picture? For fans it seems like a proof shot they are going somewhere? Snoop might have lowered himself into Kpop but he’s been a money whore for years now not saying he’s not a legend just nowadays man he’s sold out bad.

      • bigmamat

        I only threw out Jay Park as an example because he’s an English speaker not because I thought he was a potential candidate. I’m also not suggesting that just because someone took a picture with an American rapper that meant anything specific about them either. What I was suggesting is that rappers are more inclined to be open to helping other talent with their careers. Rap has a history of it’s stars going on to later produce and nurture new talent. They also love to collaborate so the opportunity for getting into the market through rap has more potential.

        As for Snoop…what’s an old guy supposed to do. How can he still be relevant at his age? It’s hard for a musical artist to keep their “edge”. Old age mellows you, it changes your attitude, it changes your lifestyle. I’m not sure how he “sold out” but he isn’t the same gang kid from Long Beach anymore. Everyone knows who he is now. What is an old gang banger and rapper supposed to be after 40? You tell me since you seem to know.

  • fdafdas

    korean disses? cant take that seriously. ive seen and experience back and forth diss tracks seeing as im from the west compton area. as a korean person and a fan of “khiphop” this cant be taken seriously. When you hear established rappers diss each other the first reaction that comes to mind is “okay whose throwing bullets first” but i cant imagine that because, well obviously there is no gun use in korea. furthermore, its 2013 where diss battles aren’t expected to stay confined in the lyrics. yeah… they can got bars and can go off lyrically… but the bar has been raised between feuds and we expect alot more after seeing what suge knight and dre did to eazy, or more well known tupac and b.i.g’s tragic fates.

  • just sayin’

    i think this whole diss incident probably did bring in more fans! fans who like harsh raps and such!
    but i think it probably made a majority not want to listen to it cos it made it look as if all they do is swear and crap!

    i was already a fan of the k-hiphop music! but not ALL!
    i like artists like the members of MFBTY and their individual stuff, Jay Park, Leessang, and MANY Amoeba artists!!!

  • Doom Starks

    The diss track will always be a part of hip hop and for the most part it is not about fame. It’s funny that the roundtable was even made when most if not all of the writers involved have very limited knowledge about hip hop. Hip Hop is an art a diss track allows an artist to fire off against someone they think isn’t up to snuff. Jay-Z and Nas had a fairly large feud with both of them firing off diss tracks. Ether by Nas is especially good, it received no radioplay and only people that follow either artist extensively have heard it. To say that a diss track is not necessary means you have completely missed the point of hip hop. Either you put up or shut up, There have been so many feuds in Hip Hop and a lot of them aren’t known publicly. They exist because its a highly competitive arena you step into. Your flow sucks you’re gonna get called out, your beats are whack people are going to notice and speak up. You bite lyrics you’re going to get hate coming at you.

    • Nate Broadus

      Ether may be the most hard-hitting diss of all time. Suffice it to say, if you took one thing away from that song, it’s: don’t f*ck with Nas. That was less a diss than an encyclopedia on how to dismantle another rapper, piece by piece (diss your opponents flow; diss his origins; diss his appearance; diss his social climbing; let everyone know who you are, but don’t over exaggerate, etc.).

      That was one of the game’s greatest lyricists at the top of his craft taking off the gloves and going, “Aw, hell no. Game on, bitch.”

  • jennyB3

    I think the only who can hold international performances are “commercial” korean hiphop rappers like dok2, who has a bit of western sound in his songs.