• BishieAddict

    I would love to see Ailee, K.will and Hyorin in a group.

  • Anon

    I think a lot of them would love to be in a group… that said I’m sure a lot of group members would love to go solo. Not saying that they hate their group, but that there are benefits to both being in a group and going solo.

    • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

      Only benefit of being in a group is that if you suck, you still get supported by the fandom….ex. YoonA, Sohee, Hara, Dara, Sulli, Uee and Suzy

      • Anon

        I mean that is a pretty big benefit I suppose. That said I’m not sure if you should put those members in there because a lot of them are the most famous members of their respective groups. I don’t think they could go solo, but I also know that Uee is one of the few members of After School that people know well. Recognition is part of being in a group and the visual often gets the most recognition. So solo artist who don’t have the visual aspect may sometimes suffer because of that.
        I mean other benefits too: one member gets famous, they all get recognition. One member screws up, it won’t reflect as badly on the whole group. Less “demanding” vocals, I mean that’s subjective but basically you won’t be singing the entire song yourself. If one member injures his/herself the group doesn’t have to stop promoting etc.

  • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

    Am I the only one who thinks Aliee “over does it” with her singing? She overkills her songs by putting wayyy to much into. Yes we know you have vocal ability, but you don’t have to prove it in every part of the song.

    Lee Hi has to be one of the most overrated/over hyped Idols of all time. Just by having low voice DOES NOT mean you can sing. I think that little kid from Kpop Star (who JYP was obsessed over) has more vocal ability and a higher potential than Lee Hi does, even though his voice cracks

    • Anon

      I do think Lee Hi is overhyped in the sense that while she is vocally talented, she is not yet stable live. I think that Bang Yedam does have a lot of potential, but he requires a bit more training than Lee Hi and we also need to see how his voice goes through puberty. He’s talented, but he’s also a messy vocalist.

      • Josh Chinnery

        Bang Yedam just needs to go through puberty and then he’ll be good to go. Boys whose voices haven’t cracked yet have this annoying tone to their vibrato that’s rather harsh on the ears (sounds like a high frequency dog whistle XD).

    • ashley774

      Your comment makes no since. If you have the vocal ability, why not show it. And Lee Hi is not overrated in any way. And saying she can’t sing is really stupid

      • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

        Did you type this while wearing your Lee Hi sweater

        • Josh Chinnery

          Bet you typed that while wearing your hater sweater XD

          • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

            Call it what you want

        • ashley774

          Like i said. You make no Sense even when you trying to be funny. Smh

      • Anon

        I mean within singing styles, some people don’t like it when someone’s singing is too “complicated.” Basically they change pitches and keys during notes and things like that. I think an example would be maybe, Mariah Carey? Now it’s not necessarily a bad thing, and a lot of people really like that style. However some people dislike it as well and prefer simpler styles. Sometimes it is also good to hold back a bit. What you can do vs. What you need to do… I think it’s sort of like that.

        I’m not actually sure if this is what the original commenter meant, but I think it might have been what they were saying.

    • TheJadeBullet

      You do know that singing in a low register isn’t an easy thing to do, right?

      • Anon

        I mean it depends on what your range is… if your range is high of course singing in a low register is difficult. That said singing low would be easier for someone with a lower range.

        • TheJadeBullet

          The same could be said in the opposite situation, ie someone with a lower register attempting to hit high notes. Singing low notes are pretty darn difficult, it’s just that people tend to be more in awe of higher registers, thus minimising the recognition of effort and talent taken to reach low notes.

          • Anon

            Of course the opposite is true as well, I thought it was implied in the comment. I think that how high or low you can go is not really indicative of ones skill, just because of everything else that goes into it.

          • TheJadeBullet

            As Josh said somewhere up there ^^^, range isn’t the determinant of skill, control is. Lee Hi does a fantastic job with controlling her lower register and that’s what makes her stand out.

          • Anon

            Isn’t that what I said?

          • TheJadeBullet

            I’m actually not quite sure of what you’re trying to say.

          • Anon

            I said that I didn’t think range was indicative of skill because of everything else it takes to be a skilled singer.

          • TheJadeBullet

            Oh, okay. I didn’t know what you were indicating by “everything else”. I will say that range does actually play a part though, especially in terms of vocal diversity, and for the sake of entertainment, it does help if someone’s voice doesn’t make them a one trick pony. Breathing techniques and voice control are even more crucial factors, so I can see why you’d say that range isn’t important in evaluating skill. Nevertheless, having a decent range is still a valuable asset.

          • Josh Chinnery

            Your range is as important as you make it; someone with a tiny range can still a good singer, they just gotta know how to use it. And honestly, I’d rather have a smaller range, because controlling a wider range is extremely difficult.

      • Josh Chinnery

        This. Your vocal range does play a large part in the difficulty level of how well one sings low/high notes, but it doesn’t detract from the fact that it’s still pretty hard.

        • TheJadeBullet

          People (for some ridiculous reason) always think that your singing ability is only measured by how well you can hit the crazy-soprano-on-helium notes. I myself have a lower register but some low notes will remain forever out of my reach.

          • Josh Chinnery

            I have a medium high range (read – my voice lies on the higher end of the spectrum, but I can reach for dem lower notes), and those crazy high/low notes always take it out of me. To me, your singing ability isn’t measured by how wide your range is, it’s measured by how well you control it. Look at someone like Bom; she has such a colorful tone, but she doesn’t exercise much vocal control, so her voice sounds like utter crap these days (which is a real shame, because her lower range totally destroys just about every main vocalist in the idol game).

          • TheJadeBullet

            The problem is that while Bom has a great range, she’s often forced to sing outside of that range (ball-crushing notes), where she has zero to no control. Her voice goes all wobbly and that doesn’t make for a very attractive performance. It’s why I love her solos over her parts in 2NE1′s songs. She just seems way more comfortable.

          • Josh Chinnery

            My ears will forever cringe at the chorus of Epik HIgh’s Up… Whoever tortured Bom’s part of her deserves to have the same done to them. I *know* her vocal chords were feeling it afterwards XD All those ball crushing notes have done a number on her vocals, and she just doesn’t sound all that great nowadays. As for her solos, I actually like how they’re a different flavor of urban pop than 2NE1′s; they’re less electronic, which is easier on the ears than most of 2NE1′s up-tempos.

          • TheJadeBullet

            I couldn’t finish listening to “Up”. Bom’s voice was stretched so thin and it sounded worse than usual. She was practically shouting to get the notes out. YG isn’t aware of how to manage her voice at all.

          • Josh Chinnery

            I know… Bom is definitely one of my favorite vocalists in K-Pop, but if YG is going to keep letting her treat her voice like that (or forcing her to treat her voice like that >_>), then she ain’t going to have one for much longer.

          • TheJadeBullet

            She has such a unique tone and that’s all going to waste with the ridiculous vocal acrobatics she’s made to do. Her voice sounds best on R&B tracks. This electro-pop nonsense isn’t cutting it.

          • Josh Chinnery

            Exactly. The old-school BIGBANG tracks she featured on (We Belong Together and Forever with You) were perfect for her. I literally sit and listen to those songs and wonder where the heck this vocalist went, because it surely isn’t the Bom we hear today. I honestly wonder what Papa YG was thinking when he put her in 2NE1, because she sticks out like a sore thumb. Whatever happened to her being a soloist?

          • Josh Chinnery

            Exactly. The old-school BIGBANG tracks she featured on (We Belong Together and Forever with You) were perfect for her. I literally sit and listen to those songs and wonder where the heck this vocalist went, because it surely isn’t the Bom we hear today. I honestly wonder what Papa YG was thinking when he put her in 2NE1, because she sticks out like a sore thumb. Whatever happened to her being a soloist?

          • TheJadeBullet

            I have no clue. She clearly sounds miles better on her own. In fact, CL and Minzy are the only ones who really fit in with the whole concept that 2NE1 has been pushing since their debut. When 50% of your group doesn’t work, you should know that you’re doing something wrong.

          • Josh Chinnery

            A commenter on a blog by the name of arcadey.net mentioned that they think that 2NE1 needs to “disband” with Dara going back into acting (wasn’t that the original real why she signed with YG?), Bom becoming a soloists doing RnB and ballads, and CL and Minzy continuing on the legacy of 2NE1 with a GD&TOP style sub-unit (that is, if CL stops acting like G-Dragon’s female clone >_>), and I agree with them. I feel like I’m the only one who actually enjoys Dara’s parts (they’re catchy and I find myself singing them all the time) and Bom looks like she just isn’t into being in 2NE1 anymore (plus, the fact that she has no business being an idol in the first place). And not to rag on Bom or Dara, but CL and Minzy could do a lot more without them; Minzy is an amazing dancer (CL ain’t bad herself), but she doesn’t really get to show that off (Bom and Dara have improved, I guess, but they still ain’t on CL or Minzy’s level). Minzy and CL’s voices are better fit for this kind of music too (Bom’s voice is too “thick”‘ and it clashes with the beat, while Dara’s is too thin, and it has to be overdubbed 293489203 so it isn’t drowned out).

            Honestly, I feel like YG just doesn’t care about BIGBANG or 2NE1 anymore, which isn’t a bad thing for BIGBANG (YG lets them manage themselves), but it spells bad news for 2NE1. They don’t manage themselves (YG doesn’t think they’re ready for that), and the bulk of their material is by Teddy. With YG getting ready to “debut” (for lack of a better word XD) a new girl group, unleash his personal version of the Hunger Games upon (you know what I’m talking about), and let one of their first rock themed acts of their dungeon, it’s going to be hell to get enough studio time to stage a comeback.

          • TheJadeBullet

            I think I just found a new favourite blog…thanks for that link.
            Didn’t CL say at some point in a recent interview that they were all in training to go solo? That, essentially, 2NE1 was never supposed to happen? Dara joined YG to be an actress, Bom joined to be a soloist (or in an R&B duo, I’ve heard different things), CL just wanted to rap and Minzy just wanted to dance. 2NE1 just was not a part of anyone’s plan.
            I was actually quite impressed by “Please Don’t Go” as it felt like something more in tune with what 2NE1′s been trying to achieve and both CL and Minzy rocked the stage for all their lives (not that they don’t already pull all the weight for any 2NE1 performance). They really should have been a duo. They have the talent and energy for it, so why not? Bom and Dara just cannot keep up with that performance style at all.
            YG’s been incredibly disorganized lately for a company that supposedly has three different groups of trainees itching to debut. You’d think that he would pace the comebacks of his current artists in the months leading up to whenever on earth he’s going to throw the girl group at us, but no. What’s even up with the competition between the two male groups anyway? It’s obvious that if Kang Seung Yoon’s debut song has been a runaway success. The other group doesn’t stand a chance. (I kind of shudder to think that GD’s had a hand in the guy’s album though. It better not turn out to be a ratchet mess…)
            As for Big Bang, they’ve proven a long time ago that they can handle themselves, so no worries there, though I’m kind of wondering when on earth Taeyang’s planning on dropping his album and his hideous hair.
            I’ve said it before, and I’m saying it again: Teddy needs to take a looooong break. His creativity is almost completely spent and everything he has a hand in producing as of late (ie anything by 2NE1) has been sub-par to his previous compositions.

    • Josh Chinnery

      While Lee Hi has much to learn about stage presence and being a performer, I think that her recognition is well earned. I don’t know about you, but I certainly don’t know how many 16 year olds that sound like she does (her voice has a tone and quality that comes with age, practice, and a little bit of soul searching). Also, idk if anyone has told you this, but being able to sing low/high means that you can sing XD

      • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

        Growing up in a black church I seen many young powerful singers. So what Lee Hi is doing isn’t new to me

        • Josh Chinnery

          That’s no real excuse for saying that she can’t sing. I can go along with your overhyped statement, because it’s true; she is very overhyped (and this is coming from Lee Hi’s #1 stan), but saying she can’t sing? That’s harsh, bro XD

          • ok

            but saying she can’t sing needs no excuse so…

    • Ignis Invictus

      I don’t know which part of your comment I find most ridiculous but I will go with the use of “of all time” for now. I understand you have an opinion about her being overrated but that just went to ridiculous mode with that “of all time” phrase. Just saying.

      • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

        She sets an all time high

    • Chocho268

      Oh stop it please, the word overrated is overrated. People are calling everyone ‘overrated’ these days, like it makes your opinion special or smth. If that kid you mentioned debuted instead of Lee Hi, people would be still calling him overrated.. just because.

      Why can’t we appreciate the unique talents of each artist and focus on that instead of always nitpicking and trying to find faults because…god forbid people praise an artist? Just because Lee Hi isn’t the best vocalist in kpop doesn’t mean her singing can’t be enjoyed and appreciated the way it is.

      • http://twitter.com/JohnDeSims JDSono

        She’s over hyped

  • ashley774

    I like Aliee and Lee Hi as solo artists. Not that mant in kpop, so I think they are doing a wonderful job at it

  • shannie4888

    Kpop have way too many groups, so seeing successful soloists is always welcomed. Imagining them in a group is not something I like to do, as there are just too many already. I wish more soloists would be visible, but I guess it’s hard to stand out in a sea of idols.

    If I had to theorize, I’d say that Hyorin and Ailee would make a kick-ass duo. Not many duos in Kpop, so we could make room for one more, especially one with the vocal talent of these two ladies.

  • Josh Chinnery

    Am I the only one who still wishes that SuPears + Lee Hi was a thing? Like seriously, if the remaining members of SuPearls reorganized their dynamic with Lee Hi in the mix and if YG’s composers gave them a something bold and brassy, then they could have worked. Just my two cents.

    All in all, I wish there were most soloists in K-Pop. With the exception of Son Dam Bi, I’ve yet to come across a soloist who couldn’t hold their own, vocally. I like that soloists like K.Will, Ailee, and Lee Hi are doing so well without the support of a group; just goes to show that actual talent can go far in the K-Pop world.

  • Ignis Invictus

    Just because Hyorin and Ailee are two of the best vocals in kpop right now does not automatically make them a good unit. Two divas does not necessarily make one kick-ass team. Besides, talent is not the sole basis of success in kpop.

    • Josh Chinnery

      My thoughts exactly; putting two divas together is only asking for trouble >_>

    • whoa1205

      Yes to this. I’ve noticed that while I like Hyorin’s voice, I generally do not like her in duets. She sounds great but most of the times the dynamics/interaction are off. For a duet to work, one has to be ok with taking a backseat and doing the harmonies and letting the the other person shine for a bit…and most likely this would just end up being a battle of the voices.

    • Nate Broadus

      Mhm. This. Right up ^ ^ ^. That with some bbq sauce.

  • happy_slip

    Ailee’s skills are more tailored for SISTAR but the problem is, a lot of their songs are tailored for 1-2 people. If she’s there, more people would be vocal about how the group can do without Bora and Dasom – which I strongly disagree with btw, because imo it is up to the producers to make each member’s distinctiveness add to the songs’ overall dynamic and wholeness even if it will be forever impossible for all of them to get equal parts. Shoot me but that’s why I can’t hate on Teddy 100% sometimes – dude knows where to put each 2NE1 member in their songs, even though the lines are hardly distributed evenly and that the group aren’t exactly up made of great vocalists.

  • ANANAS

    I don’t really visualize solo artists in groups…maybe duos but mostly I love thinking of all the possible collaborations(Ailee sure does a lot of features and I love it!)

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.schuder Mike Schuder

    IU to f(x)—-since IU would be a great addition to any girl group, her going to f(x) would make their already formidable cuteness invincible…

    • http://evacuatewithstyle.org/blog Amy

      This is the most perfect thing I’ve ever heard. IU to f(x) wouldn’t be out of place at all.

  • danahz

    It’s really interesting how easy it is to forget about Gna. I wish she was in a group sometimes. She is a great singer but her concepts are so annoying bad.

    • Sylarah

      To me, G.NA is a classic example of a talented singer whose career is sabotaged by generally mediocre songs and concepts. It’s always sad to watch talent being wasted like that.

  • goldengluvsk2

    its funny how I always do the opposite thinking which idol members could go solo lol Juniel could be part of AOA Black if she wanted. she fits perfectly! idk about the dancing part but Zia could be part of Sunny Hill… in collab songs like brave girls or lets talk about her voice blends with their style.

  • Lianna

    Juniel should join Sunny Hill, I don’t know, it just feels right to me :D

  • MinMin

    The day Ailee is relegated to sharing lines with people like Hara is the day my faith in K-pop dies. That’s why I am forever grateful that Ailee is a solo singer.