• Gaya_SB

    Sungmin was priceless throughout the whole thing, I swear. I also loved loved loved loved SHINee’s performance (no surprise there) and pretty much lost the plot when they slipped that part from “Clue” in (though Jonghyun’s voice at the scatting…)

    I also found Mithra Bane hilarious every time he spoke–as random as that Guardian Angel award was, it was worth seeing Mithra thanking people with that mask on.

    And that rap stage was AMAZING–I didn’t know Mnet had it in them to create something that was not only decent, but GOOD.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQ53WK5K4DPXQ5DIBKDELB6WPE Camille

      Seriously, Sungmin’s reactions made my night. From his “Whut?!” reaction to GD’s intro to his and Eunhyuk’s “DNW” face when Hyuna was humping Hyunseung’s leg during their performance of “Troublemaker.” LOL

      • http://twitter.com/SrilathaR Srilatha Rajamani

        Dang.. I skimmed through the MNET videos. I cannot believe I missed the Hyuna moment. I was thinking the show was bland and safe. I have to go back  and see this part now.

    • black_rose45000

      Normally I wouldn’t have been curious, but now I am. Where can I watch MAMA (aka Sungmin’s priceless expressions, lol)? ^^;

      ED: Got it! Nvm! :DDDDD

      • anono101

        Mnet’s official channel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV4EyO76uvU is the video of Troublemaker. Sungmin’s expression is around 2:50-2:55. Imo, Shindong’s reaction was more hilarious (0:47-0:48). 

      • anono101

        Mnet’s official channel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV4EyO76uvU is the video of Troublemaker. Sungmin’s expression is around 2:50-2:55. Imo, Shindong’s reaction was more hilarious (0:47-0:48). 

        • black_rose45000

          Thank you!! I was just watching the Troublemaker performance, but I had no idea about the channel!
          Yeah, I agree with you, Shindong was funny. Sungmin’s expressions in this video and the GD one kinda leave to be desired, imo. He’s my k-pop bias and I was getting really curious after all this, like “What? He actually did smth somewhat remarkably funny?”.:)

          Thanks again!

  • http://twitter.com/nas_election Nasuha Solo

    Just gotta agreed with daesang album for Suju is just plain weird?? I mean the album is not really the best of SUJU album.. Other than that, MAMA this year is wonderful!!

    • mela

      I’m sorry, but let’s just be objective, Super Junior and “the best” in terms of music, lyrics, creativity in pop music, do not go together. Never has been and never will. Despite claimed to have an “easy listening” type of music, Suju is always mediocre, their only good song is “Sorry, Sorry”. That’s it. Dang, even SNSD have more good songs than this group.

  • http://twitter.com/akikisetsu joy

    Fashion:  Hands down, actresses owned it.  I especially love Han Ga In, Han Ye Seul and Choi Ji woo’s look that night.  

    Performances:  Big Bang and Epic High for me.  Energy and charisma were oozing.  I didn’t enjoy Psy performance as much as I usually do, I don’t know why.  Troublemaker is bordering on porn.  And Song Joong Ki, good thing you’re really a good actor!^.~

    Awards:  MAMA –> My Attendance, My Award.  What’s up with those random awards?  Anyways, I think Big Bang deserves a Daesang and PSY a Daesang or two.  I thought the fight for Album of the Year is between Big Bang and Busker Busker.  But then I read that it is mostly based  on sales (50%), CRITICS(30%) and selection committee (20%).  So, maybe Busker Busker would fall behind on the physical album sales, they instead killed it digitally which does NOT matter on Album of the Year.  Shouldn’t it be Album sales, digital download  of songs of that album and critics score?-.-  I think Big Bang is the top selling this year,  2 or 3 songs from that album did well, and the album wasn’t panned.  Big Bang for Album of the Year,  Psy deserves the Artist of the Year and Gangnam Style for Song of the Year.  Peace out!^^

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQ53WK5K4DPXQ5DIBKDELB6WPE Camille

      Big Bang got the Artist Daesang and Psy got the Song Daesang, which is pretty correct.

      Also, it’d be strange to award one of the Daesangs to someone who isn’t the ceremony, so obviously Busker Busker and DBSK couldn’t win the Album Daesang and Super Junior did.

      And also, MAMA isn’t the only show that has the “no attendance = no award” rule. All Korean award shows have that rule. Hell, it’s already a pretty good thing MAMA’s already giving out awards to people who aren’t there, like what happened to Busker Busker and IU this year, or CN Blue last year.

      • mela

        i don’t get this with Korean awards. Why must you be mandated to come to the awards show in order to receive accolade for which you are entitled to? many artists didn’t come to the Grammys, Oscars, Brit Awards; but still get the awards. It should be your body of work that should be judged, not your attendance.

        • Tornibbon91

          So the shows can get higher viewer ratings

          • mela

            Hmm there are other ways to have higher rankings. Make a creative, credible, and fun show is always a sure way to have high ratings. But, then again it is K-pop, i’ve learned to just not expect quality and just be entertained by their variety show antics, instead. Much more creative in that field, IMHO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQ53WK5K4DPXQ5DIBKDELB6WPE Camille

    The sound system was crappy and the cinematography was horrible, but I was pretty glad they clearly tried to make the show less idol-dominated than the past couple of years.

    The SHINee-EXO performance was my favorite, partly because I’m biased and I love all of them, but mostly because it WAS a great performance. I loved the nods to H.O.T and DBSK, clearly making a statement that EXO and SHINee are following their paths. SHINee showed everyone how ridiculously awesome they are as performers, while EXO did great as well. If only SM let them sing live, too. They’re more than capable of doing so, and Chen and Baekhyun can easily belt out those high notes live.

    Big Bang’s performance was crazy in the best way possible, and they really did get the crowd going. I absolutely hate “Gangnam Style” nowadays, but Psy’s performance was great and it was fun seeing everyone, even the idols, going crazy over it (hello, Key and Taeyang.)

    And it was so nice to see Yoo Seungjun so warmly received by the crowd, especially the Korean artists. Hell, Super Junior were going apeshit fanboying over him, and he was obviously touched by everything.

  • aoko

    The PDs Choice Award was in the MAMAs last year too so………

  • JammySmoochie

    For starters, I like MAMAs last year more than this year. First reason is that, the two female top dogs of live performances – 2NE1 and miss A – were MIA. Second, a lot of lipsynching. Seriously, if only EXO sang live, I would say that they were the best performers of the night. Third, Album of the Year. I don’t want to sound so butthurt but come on. I’m sure I’m not the only one complaining about this. And fourth, the super horrible camera work.

    For the performances, again, if only EXO sang live, I would sing them the best praises known to men. I did like SHINee’s performance though. I am not too sure if they sang live or not, but I gotta say, Taemin stole the show. Like really stole the f–king show.

    Epik High’s was another awesome performance. Who would’ve predicted that they would turn into Halloween characters AFTER that melodramatic, epik opening song with Lee Hi. And am I the only one who noticed Lee Hi’s improving facial expressions? And she looked like a billion dollar baby. Like a true star.

    Big Bang did not disappoint. And GD’s hair color change? What can I say, but he’s one of a kind. Seungri looked so mature in white while Daesung’s high notes send shivers in my spines. Taeyang’s vocals improved and TOP is in top form. And that little aegyo he did in front of the camera? Priceless.

    PSY’s performance deserved to end the show. And I was waiting for the longest time for Hyuna to appear in a public performance of Gangnam Style. Wish granted. Only complaint? The ugly pants of PSY. That’s not classy at all.

    Super Junior’s performance last year was better. But I’m glad I heard some live singing from them. And I must say that they had the best acceptance of award speech. Kyuhyun speaking in French? Only Evil Kyu can get away with it.

    No comment about the awards. Don’t want to fuel the ongoing fanwars in AKP.

    Other thoughts:
    – The Reply 1997 parody made me miss the drama more.
    – Why were the f(x) members so gloomy? And their fashion was not my favorite of the night. But Sulli was adorable, I must say.
    – Gain and her legs. That is all.
    – Jackie Chan’s co-presenter was awkward, in a bizarre and not good way. He cut off Jackie. Nobody can do that to Mr. Chan.
    – B.A.P and Block B’s red carpet performances were ah-mazing. If only they performed in the ‘real’ stage…

    Overall, it was a good show. But the lack of miss A and 2NE1 was heartbreaking for me. LOL

    • http://twitter.com/nicholys Nicholas_SB

      Yeah, Miss A and 2NE1 are sorely missed. I particularly liked the Chinese girls working the stage with their dance moves, and CL practically strutting around the stage like a she-boss.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kakadu-Kakaduson/100004743494148 Kakadu Kakaduson

        If you are so missing miss a on mama then try even more harder to download and buy their stuffs. Then next year they might have a chance again lol To be honest better not expect them in mamas anymore, they are falling deeper and deeper into kpop irrelevancy…

  • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

    I agree with you about Big Bang, not just because I’m a (hardcore) VIP but they definitely owned the entire night and they saved the whole ceremony because to be honest, it was boring. (Okay so I’m obviously biased but who isn’t?)
    But about B.A.P….. I knew you’d think that way but please, before you comment on something, why don’t you try to do some research? Wikipedia would’ve been a good help.
    The Mnet PD’s Choice (Mnet PD Selection Special Award) isn’t just some award that Mnet came up with in the last minute just so everyone would get an award, it is actually one of the very honorable special (as the name says) award aside from the daesang(s) and has been given to Deuce (2004), S.E.S (2005), Shin Seung Hun (2008), YB (2011), and this year, B.A.P.
    Just seeing the name of previous winners, I was and still am confused as to why they decided to give the award to B.A.P. I mean, they’ve only been in the K-Pop scene for about 10 months, while other winners were/are big acts (first successful female K-Pop group, an important figure in S. Korean pop music scene, one of the most famous S. Korean rock bands) and the award pretty much puts B.A.P, the first ever rookie group to receive the award, in line with some of Korean music scene legends. It would’ve made sense if it was given to Shinhwa. So why, Mnet?
    But well, not that I’m not happy or anything though, because I love B.A.P and I’m really happy for them to win such an award in their first year. It’s no wonder Daehyun looked really surprised when they won. Now I’m waiting for a pantsless Bbang because he said he’d go shirtless if they won the rookie award but hey, instead they got a bigger one so those pants, get them down.
    …LMFAO okay just kidding about the pants (but not really).
    p.s. the inner evil Baby in me is extremely happy that B.A.P got a more worthy award compared to EXO who got New Asian Artist/Asia New Artist (no, there isn’t any ‘best’ in the award name, sorry to say).

    • Sophia

      Baby to the core even i was “Eh? what the hell is the PD award’? Did we just get a consultation prize to shut us the hell up? i looked it cos someone else said that its an award they have given before – but i didn’t know it had such prestige? 
      Or is it the prize they give when they can’t think of anything else – i mean how come no one seems to know about it?
      Anyway, glad the boys got something, and the look of surprise on Daehyun & Yongguk face made my day! Although i was disappointed that the boys didnt get “best new artist” they did well 

      • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

        I’ve been a fan of K-Pop for years and I always watch award shows like MAMA (MKMF back then) so I remember that award being given… to legends. So yes, it is prestigious.
        I think if they were just giving out a random award to B.A.P, it would’ve been a less relevant award. I don’t know. I guess Mnet (or probably the judges) sees something more in B.A.P than we do even as fans, because the award presenters said, “This 2012 MAMA Mnet PD’s choice special award, amongst the many rookies that debuted this year, will be given to the rookie who has biggest presence overseas and shows the most potential overseas.” and they also said it was given by all the Mnet PDs.
        Busker Busker pretty much shit on every other rookie in terms of digital sales (even as far as being nominated for Album of the Year–which most S. Korean netizens think they should’ve won instead of SJ and they dissed SJ for that) and S. Korea loves them so they deserve the award. And I honestly love all of their songs so I don’t mind.

  • takasar1

    i think most people on this forum prioritize critical success as being of greater importance than commercial success. if MAMA disagrees with the aforementioned line of thinking, then i see no reason why suju cannot/should not win the ‘best album of the year’ award.

  • http://dvqd92.tumblr.com/ Elizabeth

    overall i enjoyed watching this year’s MAMA awards where I mostly care about the performances, nice interactions of soloists and groups from different groups, company or their own company family and fashion. i loved yg stage when big bang, psy, lee hi and epik high performed. the hip hop stage was great. sm also does a good job i especially loved shinee’s performance, liked super junior’s performance, although i digged the nod to sm’s past groups hit with tvxq’s mirotic and shinee’s sherlock, and although i love exo, hopefully exo will improve through hard work against natural talent and less lip-syncing in the future, while the international non-k-pop performances, Adam Lambert’s and Lee-Hom Wang’s did liked especially it’s been awhile i haven’t paid attention to Adam Lambert and Lee-Hom Wang as both are my favourite soloists. I do not want to talk about the JYP & 2PM’s Wooyoung’s performance which JYP has “pasted away” and 2PM’s Wooyoung is the new JYP um WTF. I feel sorry for Wooyoung as JYP is making him into JYP 2.0. JYP needs to realize Wooyoung is his own person and not you JYP i like you JYP (when don’t whispering your name and being a narcissist), your company JYP, company family JYP Nation (company families are my favourite groups) and your artists but come on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nielsgabriel Niels Gabriel Nable

    In my very honest opinion, this year’s Mnet Asian Music Awards is the best among all the Korean awarding ceremonies I have seen so far. Of course, minus the dull and boring first half of the ceremony. Even the red carpet was more interesting than the beginning of the program. Nevertheless, the second half of the show definitely made up for all the things the first half badly lacked and needed. The show just started during EXO’s performance, even though they lip-synched it. (I still find hard to give my respect to artists who lip-synch. Drop the choreography, for goodness’ sake!)

    Anyway, the only thing that I couldn’t still accept is the fact that Super Junior won the “Album of the Year” and the “Best Global Male Group.” Seriously, I think Mnet had just given those awards to Super Junior because they attended. The “Album of the Year” award should have been given to Big Bang’s “Alive.” Not only it sold over 420,000 physical copies and 13 million digital units, the album itself is a masterpiece. Although arguable, the album’s quality is excellent. The three title tracks topped and slayed both domestic and international charts. Even Busker Busker’s album was more deserving.

    Furthermore, I think the “Best Global Male Group” award should have been also given to Big Bang. Didn’t they remember all the international awards, achievements, and recognition Big Bang brought home? From MTV EMA’s “Best Worldwide Act” and MTV TRL’s “Best Fan” awards to their all-sold-out concert tour, I think it definitely should had belonged to Big Bang. Not even mentioning “Alive” as the first-ever Korean album to chart on Billboard 200.

    I’m glad that MAMA is living up to its name. They awarded numerous acts from other (East and Southeast) Asian countries. But they should definitely remove all the nonsense awards, like the “Best Line Group” and “Guardian Angel Global Performer” awards. Even though they were sponsored, the awards were just what-the-hell-is-that.

    As a person who watched the show since the carpet, I must say that YG Family owned the night. Big Bang’s performance was oozing with power and charisma and was the best among all the others; Epik High and Lee Hi’s was excellent; and Psy’s was just notable.

    “Artist of the Year” should have been given to Psy, not Big Bang, even though they owned all the other male groups this year. Anyway, congratulations to Busker Busker for winning the “Best New Male Artist” award and SISTAR for grabbing the “Best Female Group” award. They all deserve it!

    P.S: Just because the horse dance is insanely popular doesn’t mean it’s the best. BoA or even JYP or Se7en should have gotten that award.

    • secretkeeperzee

      If I’m not mistaken, 2PM’s ‘1:59PM’ album reached #17 on the US Billboard 200 in October 2010 and this had happened with no promotion of the album (2PM were preparing for a comeback.) I’m not sure if they were the first to have a Korean album on the chart, it could have been Wonder Girls, but I do know it wasn’t Big Bang. 

      • http://twitter.com/dds87 dechen

        LOL….no.. BigBang’s ALIVE is the  first Korean album to chart on the US Billboard 200..followed by Taetiseo. I don’t think 2PM’s album have charted on the Billboard. and Wondergirls charted on Billboard Hot 100 not the album chart

        • secretkeeperzee

          Sorry my mistake, it was actually the Still 2:00PM album that peaked #13 or 14 unexpectedly (again with no promotion what so ever) on the Billboard 200’s, you can just google this if you don’t believe, I’m not trying to cause a fanwar, just trying to correct someone’s facts politely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_02:00PM thats an easier link to see your proof. I’m not being rude, sorry if I come off that way. Bye :)

          • Niels Gabriel Nable

            Uhm, no. That’s just completely insane. Charting within the Top 20 of the Billboard 200, you must be like Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, or Katy Perry, but no. Not even Big Bang or Girls’ Generation has reached that level of massive and immense popularity on the global stage.

            What you’re talking about is the Billboard World Albums chart. It’s also a Billboard chart, but just less relevant than the 200. Get your facts right, dude.

          • dsherpa

             LMAO..did u just use Wikipedia as your source?..smh. ,let me provide you with some facts..

            Korean albums on Billboard 200(albums chart):
            BigBang Alive
            Taetiseo
            G-Dragon OOAK

            Korean singles on Billboard Hot 100:
            Psy
            Wondergirls

             

          • wahooyahoo

            I think I might have just busted an organ laughing at this comment…

    • takasar1

      i am glad we both enjoyed the show! i loved the performances too (especially the jyp performance). just 2 things:

      1) i dont think anyone takes MAMA seriously. i have heard this from both international fans and korean fans alike. apparently it is just the GDA but without the prestige (?).

      2) album of the year went to super junior since their album sold the most copies. btw, it is extremely difficult to be objective when your bias is involved but take into account that sj, with little promotion (compared to last year) sold a huge amount. you think their album was terrible, well many disagree and if they live in asia then their view is most likely more relevant and influential than our view (or just ‘my’ view if you happen to live in asia). like i mentioned before, critical success is not always seen as more important than commercial success. critical success is not what always lasts the test of time. commercial success does however. in korea critical success is undervalued since fan groups (obtained through initial critical success) mean that commercial success is nigh-on constant with regards to the top 4 Korean groups (tvxq, sj, big bang, snsd). case and point: mr simple. from the way that seoulbeats and everyone other kpop site in the west was going on about it, you would think that it was the death-knell of suju, was extremely unsuccessful and forced papa SM to literally bow down on his knees in apology for subjecting us to its horror.

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      I agree with everything you said except for this being the best awards show. :P

  • PasserBy07

    Just going to comment on some perfs.

    SISTAR‘s perf was clean and sexy. The girls sounded awesome. But their tango-remixed perf needed more umf in it. You know, tango is not just about doing those sexy dance moves, it’s about doing those moves with authority (that umf factor that I can’t really explain but was clearly lacking in SISTAR’s perf).

    Song Joongki, why you sing? >.< He was charming and doing his best but no. no, no.  And GD, he got that swag checked but he should work on his english. I’m not saying I didn’t understand his rap; it’s just that he sounded like he was chewing the words before spitting them out. Anyway, just my honest opinion, not hating.

    EXO, EXO, EXO. Why you lipsynch? They’ll get use to it if they don’t stop now. I know that their choreography is physically taxing but it’s not like there’s no working around it (e.g. stop dancing when you’re singing and just do your own thing). I love the tributes though. When they performed MIROTIC, I just wanted to travel back to the epic KPop year that was 2008. Remember MKMF 2008? Back then, I didn’t give a flying fuck who won what award ’cause all the perfs were fuckin’ awesome.

    I don’t really like Super Junior‘s releases this year. Good thing that they make up for the lack of quality in their recent songs with great performances. They worked the stage last night. Personal fave from their MAMA perf would be the Mr. Simple one with the light fx and all. It was impressive. Two thumbs up for that.

    Epik High went c-r-a-z-y. :))) The members were feeling the “bad guy” vibe, not just in their perf, they were acting those villains out all night. Tablo was hilariously creepy. Anyway, they were epik. 

    Watching Lee Ha Yi just standing in the middle of the stage, wearing that beautiful white gown while singing the coldest lyrics in falsetto. Holy… Gahd, give me a jacket. She looks like a diva in the making. This girl will be big, I tell you.

    I got used to watching Hyuna doing ‘sexy’ time with Hyunseung in Troublemaker. Or so I thought… :))) Okay, so he touched her bum, and she touched his crotch, and that everything was 100x more sexed up than what I’m used to… and I had to close the browser for a while and reflect on my life. XP I just hope that both Hyuna and Hyunseung are fine with what their doing onstage. (I can’t really read Hyunseung ’cause he’s forever wearing that stoic face.)

    Psy‘s Gangnam Style makes you want to do the Gangnam Style. :))) The guy knows how to work a crowd. I mean, come on, what should we expect from S.Korea’s concert king? Anyway, it was a great and fun way to end the night.

    Now for my favorite perf last night, Big Bang. They killed it. They brought their A-game and their CrayOns. m/ It was during BB’s number that you’ll notice the big difference between strictly sticking to the choreo and engaging the audience to join in the fun. They got almost everyone screaming and jumping for them. I was jamming it out big time and I was in front of my laptop. Anyway, I don’t know what else to say. I feel like they’re born to be onstage. They owned it.

    That’s it I guess. (^o^)v

    • xchoccies

      “..you’ll notice the big difference between strictly sticking to the choreo and engaging the audience to join in the fun.” – THIS! And I sorta direct this towards SME artists in particular. Epik High & Lee Hi, Big Bang & Psy, YGE definitely know how to hold a stage, yesterday definitely sealed it. The energy, the crowd interaction, it reminded you that it was a music awards show.

      I was slightly annoyed that EXO got to perform (fine, I am butthurt about B.A.P not performing on the same stage lol) and then lipsynched, but SHINee came and saved my dislike. SHINee’s stage was just wow, clean, solid, amazing. I realised how much I miss seeing these boys performing in Korea. I’d also like to ask why the stylist chose to dress Onew & Minho that way. Those chains, really?!?

      And I’m really annoyed f(x) didn’t get to perform! Also since we’re on f(x), girls, work on your expressions. Also to the other artists, is it so hard to attempt to enjoy the stages instead of suddenly getting into the groove when the camera’s on you?

      The rap stage was win. No other words. I loved it. (although I slightly wished for BYG to also join but seeing Zico was good enough!).

      Super Junior winning album of the year left me with WTF. “Sexy, free & single, I’m ready too bingo” like umm, not feeling it. I’m also slightly gutted that BoA didn’t win best choreo :(

      MKMF 2008 was the best. I don’t think anything can top that. Definitely memorable!

      P.S. Taeyang’s rap bit during Crayon with the twins dancing in the background just reminded me of Gary’s Rolols haha!

      • Sophia

        I felt it was just plain weird – EXO lipsync up the place for like 10 minutes then Shinee come out and sing with dongsang for like TWO MINUTES? Whats that all about? 

        Okay, the clip above shows like two minutes of Shinee, but from reading the comments, i guess there was more?

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQ53WK5K4DPXQ5DIBKDELB6WPE Camille

          SHINee performed “Sherlock” right after. Most clips were cut either from EXO to the “Lucifer” bit or “Lucifer” up to “Sherlock.”

          Mnet’s super LQ official coverage is the only with the full 12 minutes of the EXO-SHINee performance (and being too much of a dick to upload in HD).

      • leadaegyu

        yeah i feel like MAMA is slightly ‘off’ when SJ got Album of the Year. I feel like there’s a lot of other nominations who deserves it. Alive and Cherry Blossom Ending were more deserving than SFS, i mean, their sales isn’t that bad compared to SFS. and even though album sales takes up 50% of it but aren’t there experts and judges? and everything in 2008 was great. Gayo Daejuns, year-end awards, 2008 is simply the golden year of k-pop imo with great releases.

      • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

        The thing that annoys me most about SM artists failing to engage the crowd is the fact that they can. Like, if you’ve seen their concert fancams, you know that they can interact and connect with the audience. :/ 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PXJOWIYC26MDT52XS4YICM3X4E chua

        Taeyang’s twins…. LoL! Yeah, I really think Taeyang is really quite a legit performer, but somehow they always seem to make him to be kind of a joke with his questionable hairstyle and backup twins?? I mean, he’ s not really 100% impressing people with his backups and hairstyle, the way that TOP does…

        And as a joke really… After seeing TOP in MAMA that night, I think his next acting role should not be an assassin or spy/ agent anymore. I think he would do very well as a supernatural character in a saegook supernatural movie drama with that make-up… ;b

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      I wasn’t a Kpop fan in 2008, but I wish I was. All of the 2008 MKMF performances I’ve seen are mind-blowing. :P

  • MEalways

    Actually some people don’t take MAMA seriously (that including me). I really miss TVXQ, Miss A, Shinwha performances. I think this year MAMA is a bit bland, comparing to all the previous before + we have so many great ‘comeback’ this year… 

    Well… I hope end of the year ‘Gayo’s will answer my wish. I really hope so.

  • http://twitter.com/jpp208 Jui Patel

    This whole award show every year that goes by, it needs better camera work and sound equipment.  Performers who lip-sync are coming our looking golden, while people who sing live and coming of as terrible.  Also, they should have just had backtrack sing Paramore’s parts, because Seo In Young engrish combined w/ poor sound equipment resulted in my favorite song being desecrated.  I love love love Airplanes and B.o.B and it ended up being a throwaway performances.  I stopped watching the awards when Seo In Young started to sing Airplanes and didn’t go back, that’s how upset I was at her and MAMA mangling my song.

    But both Adam Lambert and Big Bang rocked (even when audience is as dead as it was last night). Both of them got them the reluctant blue stick holding attendees up on the feet and enjoying.  I would have liked Epik High more (I liked Batman theme costumes), if at least once during performance they would have performed w/ their own faces instead of villians.  And Up would have appreciated.  Honorable mentions to dancing machine Shinee.  My only question is why didn’t they let Shinee do Mirotic it would have sights better than Exo

    And I am relatively happy w/ majority (small majority, but majority nonetheless) of the awards given out during the night.  Every awards show there are going to be undeserving artist? and even made-up awards, but as long some of them go to performers/artist deserving them, I will call that a successful night.

    • mangochic

       I like the Airplanes song too and I was cringing hearing Seo In Young sing the chorus, it was horrible. I don’t understand why a big show like this has poor substandard sound systems.

    • http://twitter.com/lillian23910 Sharon

      But the performance with K.Will and B.o.B was good. They sang Beautiful girl, and his English was actually quite good.

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      SHINee did TVXQ in 2008, so… :P

  • http://twitter.com/SrilathaR Srilatha Rajamani

    I have been watching parts of the show from the MNET website. With visual cues, I am about as perceptive as a door knob. I would have never known that EXO was lip syncing.This is the first time I have seen them or heard their song. I like SHINEE – thanks to my daughter – and they were great. Precision dancing,and exciting performance dynamics. Jonghyun appeared breathless at the end which makes me hope they were live performing the song – not lip syncing. I liked Ga In, Epik High and Big Bang (TOP – totally badass in pink) But Ailee’s – not so much. And I usually like her vocals. Seriously, what happened to all the women powerhouse performers? But for me, the most memorable, stirring performance was the Rap collection from Dynamic Duo, Zico, Choiza, contrasting with vocals from Davichi. This is what people want to see in shows. Rare collaborations, surprise, sheer talent. I would have liked to see more crazy or over the top stuff. On that note, I would have loved to have seen CraZyno perform in this show.

  • http://twitter.com/annazabc KyuZabc

    Album of the Year is based on 50% album sales – of which no other artist has come close to beating Super Junior’s. Digital sales etc are not part of the criterion – that’s what the other daesangs are for. Whether or not people agree with the criterion used for judging is of course a different matter. And it wasn’t a case of no show no award. Clearly SJ already won the award ahead of announcements of attendees as they were the first to be announced, given that there was no voting required for Album of the Year. People vote with their purchases… Based on the attendees this year, it was clear that rather than no show no award, MAMA invited mostly only the winners, as they usually do. There were winners that didn’t attend. And there were also quite a few that attended that didn’t win anything – e.g. JYPE artists. Just because an album or artist wins an award that some do not like does not mean they are less deserving. Based on MAMA’s published criteria, most of the awards were given to winners that pretty much anyone that has been following the trends in a more or less objective manner would have been able to guess the winners. The three daesang winners certainly were obvious to most way before any attendees were even announced…

  • http://twitter.com/annazabc KyuZabc

    Album of the Year is based on 50% album sales – of which no other artist has come close to beating Super Junior’s. Digital sales etc are not part of the criterion – that’s what the other daesangs are for. Whether or not people agree with the criterion used for judging is of course a different matter. And it wasn’t a case of no show no award. Clearly SJ already won the award ahead of announcements of attendees as they were the first to be announced, given that there was no voting required for Album of the Year. People vote with their purchases… Based on the attendees this year, it was clear that rather than no show no award, MAMA invited mostly only the winners, as they usually do. There were winners that didn’t attend. And there were also quite a few that attended that didn’t win anything – e.g. JYPE artists. Just because an album or artist wins an award that some do not like does not mean they are less deserving. Based on MAMA’s published criteria, most of the awards were given to winners that pretty much anyone that has been following the trends in a more or less objective manner would have been able to guess the winners. The three daesang winners certainly were obvious to most way before any attendees were even announced…

  • http://twitter.com/annazabc KyuZabc

    Album of the Year is based on 50% album sales – of which no other artist has come close to beating Super Junior’s. Digital sales etc are not part of the criterion – that’s what the other daesangs are for. Whether or not people agree with the criterion used for judging is of course a different matter. And it wasn’t a case of no show no award. Clearly SJ already won the award ahead of announcements of attendees as they were the first to be announced, given that there was no voting required for Album of the Year. People vote with their purchases… Based on the attendees this year, it was clear that rather than no show no award, MAMA invited mostly only the winners, as they usually do. There were winners that didn’t attend. And there were also quite a few that attended that didn’t win anything – e.g. JYPE artists. Just because an album or artist wins an award that some do not like does not mean they are less deserving. Based on MAMA’s published criteria, most of the awards were given to winners that pretty much anyone that has been following the trends in a more or less objective manner would have been able to guess the winners. The three daesang winners certainly were obvious to most way before any attendees were even announced…

    • Niels Gabriel Nable

      Big Bang is actually the closest. “Sexy, Free & Single” has beaten “Alive” by only 50,000 physical copies. Not that it doesn’t count, but we all know here how massive the ELF fandom bulk-buys. And just the critical reception alone of Big Bang’s were way ahead of those of Super Junior’s.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

      Thank’s for stating that.It’s MAMA’s criteria, so why hate the winners.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kakadu-Kakaduson/100004743494148 Kakadu Kakaduson

    Mnet or SM (?) should have allowed f(x) to perform a dance remix. Lack of girl group performances were too noticeable. But SM apparently decided to put Shinee+EXO performance. Two performances from 2 boy groups instead of 1 performance from 1 girl group.

  • http://twitter.com/lillian23910 Sharon

    Why is it a surprise that suju won the album of the year award. This is the award most ELFs and suju expect to win in because of the fact that they have high album sales. I would be suprprised if they won a digital award, now that’s unbelievable. 

    Btw, when I saw Epik High in that joker costume I was like, Crazyno?! Is that you!?? lol, wish he performed. Both him and his backup dancers look like their having the time of their life.

  • kiimmiieee

    As a BBC I’m just so proud of our leader Zico performing! Our boys also performed on the red carpet and came to support Zico. Block B wasn’t even nominated for anything but it’s still nice to see that they were able to be invited to a venue such as MAMAs.

    • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

      Did “Blockbuster” come out after nominations were released for MAMAs? Because if it did, it’s a damn shame it wasn’t nominated. :/

      • kiimmiieee

        I’m not sure! When were nominations released? Blockbuster came out in October.

      • http://twitter.com/fah2ma Fatouma

        Blockbuster was released before the MAMAs’ nominations, and it was such a shock that Ice Cream was nominated but Blockbuster wasn’t at all. :/

        • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

          …Now I’m pissed. >_<

          "Blockbuster" is my favorite full album from this year.

          • http://twitter.com/fah2ma Fatouma

            Same here, It’s a shame that most of these awards value sales a lot more than content and music. But c’est la vie in K-pop I guess? 

  • black_rose45000

    I listened to Roy Kim but idk. I loved the song, but he didn’t impress me :( I expected more from a singing contest winner. Maybe he was nervous…

    I didn’t know Seo InYoung was there too XDDD need to watch her, lol.

    Thank you for your review :)

  • http://twitter.com/LulcKathy kat

    No offence, but you should have done more research before you wrote this article. I see that you tried to be sarcastic to some of the winners while don’t even have your facts straight. And no, MAMA doesn’t have a “no show no award” policy, some winners didn’t show up, and some performers didn’t win anything.

  • Chocho268

    I really missed 2NE1, sigh.

    I’m happy that Sistar won. They really came a long way-I still remember watching their Shady Girl promotions and feeling kind of sorry for them because I thought they’d be completely overlooked in a mass of female groups. But look at them now!

    • takasar1

      likewise, but remember, all this means is that they are confirmed upper mid tier. they have not yet won a daesang. we have to wait and hope that they continue this upward trend in popularity

    • takasar1

      likewise, but remember, all this means is that they are confirmed upper mid tier. they have not yet won a daesang. we have to wait and hope that they continue this upward trend in popularity

    • takasar1

      likewise, but remember, all this means is that they are confirmed upper mid tier. they have not yet won a daesang. we have to wait and hope that they continue this upward trend in popularity

    • takasar1

      likewise, but remember, all this means is that they are confirmed upper mid tier. they have not yet won a daesang. we have to wait and hope that they continue this upward trend in popularity

    • JammySmoochie

      Yes! I so remember the Shady Girl days. I thought I was the only one who noticed their caliber performances (despite the butt ugly costumes). I’m so happy right now for them.

  • lokifairy

    The PD’s choice award isn’t created -__- get ur facts right please. The award was given to some great artists in the past. It is a big thing for B.A.P because they are the first rookie who get the award.

    I loved SHINee’s, Big Bang’s and Psy’s performances the most. SHINee were perfect (vocal+choreo), Big Bang’s stage was messy and their vocals wasn’t the best but it was a funny stage and Psy was just Psy ;)

    EXO’s stage was terrible, they lipsync AGAIN! They are rookies and they stole 10 minutes of my life! I can’t take them serious anymore and I will not even try to give them a chance again! They had their 2nd chance! And why they hell couldn’t SHINee perform Lucifer on their own? It would have been soooooooooo much better.

    Ga In….it was alright but it was a little bit TOO much and Troublemaker…seriously can we just delete this song and performance from the KPop history please?!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LL4QDJLVFDT2RDIZYBALSE75JE angel29

    Rants:

    1) Lipsyncing in MAMA and other music award shows should be banned.  What the heck?  They just mocked the very art they celebrate!  You watch a music show hoping to see the best performances only to see someone pretending to do it.   So. Not. Cool.

    2) Album of the Year.  When you look back to 2012 and check the winners, you at least expect the MAMA Daesang to be representative of that year.  Album sales is a huge part of the criteria but SJ weren’t the only ones who sold their albums.  BigBang did as well.  And BigBang made more than a dent with that album this year.  They really had a big bang in 2012.  As in KABOOM!  Blue will always be in our playlists and Fantastic Baby will be one of the most iconic songs to come out of kpop ever. My point is this: ALIVE defined more than a moment in kpop and it will be a part of our kpop experience, like it or hate it.    And that was one whole freaking album that sold well and went well not only with the fans and the casual listener, it also scored high with the critics.  On the other hand, only ELFs have listened to the entire SFS album more than 3 times max (unless you room with one).

    3. Enough with the sexy performances only to have sexy performances.  Just make them part of the performances.  If they happen to be sexy, then so be it.

    4. What’s with those other awards that need explanation?  Guardian angel what? Line what?  Yeah, they’ve always been there but who cares?  They still are just fillers.  But please come up with better and more relevant ones, or at least with less tacky names.

    5. Camera shots were lousy.  Really lousy.  As lousy as last year’s mic issues.

    6. What the heck about showing up to receive awards?  And although this is not absolute, it still is an obvious presence in the criteria.  It sucks even more because you know that the artists already know they are getting something because they have been invited to attend.  As fans, we just check who are present among the nominees and know as early as the red carpet who among the artists will get which awards.  And since the confirmation for most artists have been made two to three weeks prior, that means that the winners have been determined as early as that time.  So what’s the fan votes for?  Oh, yeah, publicity.

    • BVMR

      >> 5. the most irritating part of the lousy camera shots for me was when they shot BB’s perf in longshot and it was ‘disturbed’ by the girl holding G-Dragon sign. i didnt blame the girl (i wud def do the same thing if i was there) but seriously, cant they just shoot it from other angle?? and why didnt they shoot Seungri when he was taking off his mask during Crayon?? *butthurtVIPwriting* T_T but whatever BB killed the stage i really wish i were in HK that night

    • sansai9 san

      i don’t know about that guardian angel award, but Line awards is something like popularity awards but fans only can vote via Line (such a twitter or kakaotalk but this app. only available for certain os)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LL4QDJLVFDT2RDIZYBALSE75JE angel29

    They should have strapped JYP to the coffin the moment he arrived at the venue. ^^  That was just too painful of an experience for me as a viewer.  Embarrassing to a point.  Torture at it’s worst when he removed his shirt. ^^ Whereas some acts were forgettable, this one I will remember for the most obnoxious images for a very long time.  Scars. ^^

    • JammySmoochie

      LOL!!! I’m dead. I wonder how would you react if he wore his now legendary transparent pants. :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LL4QDJLVFDT2RDIZYBALSE75JE angel29

         Are you saying that we should count our blessings? ^_^ #pleasegodnotthat

        • JammySmoochie

          Maybe we should start a petition to put JYP on strong tranquilizers before any performance. LOL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VOBHN5WR2Q3MPYG2DVDKDOB3WU Lili

    anyone know where i can watch the Rap segment with Dynamic Duo and Zico? 

    • mognut

      MAMA has official recordings of all of the performances on their site:
      http://mama.interest.me/rewatchMAMA2012 
      The performance you are after is available at – http://global.mnet.com/mnettv/videodetail.m?searchVideoDetailVO.clip_id=151045

  • ErinMHz

    Before I get into my too-long comment, who was missing from Super Junior? Only 8 members performed.

    I pretty much just skipped through all the awards and only watched the performances I wanted to see. First off, I like GD, but his a capella rap was not good, to say the least. I commend him for rapping in English, and I’m sure that was the main reason why it wasn’t good. He was probably thinking too much about what he had to say. There was no flow, too many pauses, and the lyrics made no sense at all. This was definitely a case of finding English words that rhymed and slapping them together for a rap.

    Gain was cool, but for some reason, I didn’t like it as much as I like the original song and video. Maybe it was because it was so overtly sexual, even more so than her other non-remixed live performances, and I’m just not used to seeing anything that overt from K-pop singers. I’m almost certain she lip-synched, though, which is disappointing. Out of her set with Sistar and Trouble Maker, though, she was definitely the best.

    Trouble Maker was by far the worst performance I watched. Even though I kind of enjoyed the song when I first heard it, I’ve never liked Hyuna, and that performance firmly cemented my belief that she is basically talentless. Why was she even given a mic? I couldn’t hear her most of the time, and when I could, which was mostly during her sing-talking/rapping/something verse after the first chorus, she sounded awful. Hyungseung’s singing was fine, but nothing extraordinary, and it looked like he was having mic problems. Hyungseung and Hyuna looked super awkward dancing together, though; there was no chemistry between them. The audience wasn’t engaged in their performance at all, which was obvious because they only started screaming when the camera showed other idols watching the performance (Shindong’s expression was priceless, and I’d love to know what Taemin and Jonghyun were talking about).

    This was the first MAMAs I’ve watched (I’m a new K-pop fan), so I was really surprised to see Adam Lambert. Is he popular in South Korea and the rest of Asia? Or he is just desperate for performances (I hope not). Either way, he sounded amazing, as always, but I didn’t like his facial hair. Also, I found it super interesting that he, as an openly gay man, was asked to perform. I wonder if that’s an aspect of his life the Koreans ignore or just pass it off as him being American.

    SHINee and EXO was my favorite performance. It’s fun to watch all of EXO perform together and fill the entire stage. I liked the combination of the K and M versions of Mama, but I feel like combining both groups and languages is not going to be viable in the long term. Obviously it’s not fair if only K wins an award and M doesn’t, but how much patience will the audience have if they have to watch all EXO awards performances in two different languages from two groups that rarely perform together? Plus, it’s not fair to the boys. They have to learn new choreography, and I’m sure that at least half of the boys’ singing parts were cut out entirely. 

    What was with the lip syncing, though?! They don’t sound bad live. Doesn’t SM trust them? (Obviously not.) 

    The time loop was cool. The “Warrior’s Descendant” and “Mirotic” were nice tributes, and of course once “Lucifer” started, everyone knew what was going to happen. Oh my god, 17 boys dancing to Lucifer!

    SHINee was amazing. They looked so confident, dare I say arrogant, during their dance, especially doing their “I’m so curious” jumping/strutting thing. The inclusion of the quiet part from “Clue” killed me! I loved it. The downside to their performance was that the backing vocals were way too loud. If you can’t hear Jonghyun over them, you know they need to be turned down. On a side note, I want Taemin’s gold jacket.

    I like Super Junior’s music for the most part, but I’m not a huge fan of their live performances because I’m always let down.  They had some cool theatrics (the Mr. Simple quick change was awesome), but the singing was lackluster (mostly just backing vocals, and when you could hear their voices, it was usually bad) and the dancing wasn’t sharp. There was an overhead shot of them when they were in the two lines during “Sexy, Free, and Single,” and they looked sloppy. If EXO can form straight, evenly spaced lines with 12 members who don’t dance together, SJ can do the same with 8 members.

    I only watched the beginning of the rap performance, but what I heard from Zico sounded amazing! He is above and beyond 99% of other idol rappers (as all of us already know).

    Big Bang was also good. Personally, I would’ve loved to hear GD perform “Crayon” as solo, but watching the guys run around the stage was entertaining. They looked like they were having a lot of fun. And OMG TOP. His eyes, his outfit, the cape, the riding crop, that hat. Crazier than GD’s hair (did he redye it during the show?).

    B.o.B was good. It’s a shame that Seo Inyoung’s Engrish was prevalent. I’m not trying to be insensitive, but I laughed every time I heard “airpranes.” Also a shame that most of the audience probably couldn’t understand B.o.B’s rapping.

    Gangnam Style went exactly as I expected it to. No surprises there, only the unfortunate appearance of Hyuna. It’s nice to see the other idols also having fun during the performance, too.

    My biggest complaint during the show was the terrible camerawork. Half the time the camera wasn’t focused on the person actually singing, was too far away to watch the best dance moves (I didn’t even get to see Minho jumping over Key in “Sherlock”), or was at ground level and was constantly blocked by balloons and stupid posters. There were times when I couldn’t see half of SJ because people had their posters up.

    As usual, I’ve turned my comment into a novel. *le sigh*

  • ErinMHz

    Before I get into my too-long comment, who was missing from Super Junior? Only 8 members performed.

    I pretty much just skipped through all the awards and only watched the performances I wanted to see. First off, I like GD, but his a capella rap was not good, to say the least. I commend him for rapping in English, and I’m sure that was the main reason why it wasn’t good. He was probably thinking too much about what he had to say. There was no flow, too many pauses, and the lyrics made no sense at all. This was definitely a case of finding English words that rhymed and slapping them together for a rap.

    Gain was cool, but for some reason, I didn’t like it as much as I like the original song and video. Maybe it was because it was so overtly sexual, even more so than her other non-remixed live performances, and I’m just not used to seeing anything that overt from K-pop singers. I’m almost certain she lip-synched, though, which is disappointing. Out of her set with Sistar and Trouble Maker, though, she was definitely the best.

    Trouble Maker was by far the worst performance I watched. Even though I kind of enjoyed the song when I first heard it, I’ve never liked Hyuna, and that performance firmly cemented my belief that she is basically talentless. Why was she even given a mic? I couldn’t hear her most of the time, and when I could, which was mostly during her sing-talking/rapping/something verse after the first chorus, she sounded awful. Hyungseung’s singing was fine, but nothing extraordinary, and it looked like he was having mic problems. Hyungseung and Hyuna looked super awkward dancing together, though; there was no chemistry between them. The audience wasn’t engaged in their performance at all, which was obvious because they only started screaming when the camera showed other idols watching the performance (Shindong’s expression was priceless, and I’d love to know what Taemin and Jonghyun were talking about).

    This was the first MAMAs I’ve watched (I’m a new K-pop fan), so I was really surprised to see Adam Lambert. Is he popular in South Korea and the rest of Asia? Or he is just desperate for performances (I hope not). Either way, he sounded amazing, as always, but I didn’t like his facial hair. Also, I found it super interesting that he, as an openly gay man, was asked to perform. I wonder if that’s an aspect of his life the Koreans ignore or just pass it off as him being American.

    SHINee and EXO was my favorite performance. It’s fun to watch all of EXO perform together and fill the entire stage. I liked the combination of the K and M versions of Mama, but I feel like combining both groups and languages is not going to be viable in the long term. Obviously it’s not fair if only K wins an award and M doesn’t, but how much patience will the audience have if they have to watch all EXO awards performances in two different languages from two groups that rarely perform together? Plus, it’s not fair to the boys. They have to learn new choreography, and I’m sure that at least half of the boys’ singing parts were cut out entirely. 

    What was with the lip syncing, though?! They don’t sound bad live. Doesn’t SM trust them? (Obviously not.) 

    The time loop was cool. The “Warrior’s Descendant” and “Mirotic” were nice tributes, and of course once “Lucifer” started, everyone knew what was going to happen. Oh my god, 17 boys dancing to Lucifer!

    SHINee was amazing. They looked so confident, dare I say arrogant, during their dance, especially doing their “I’m so curious” jumping/strutting thing. The inclusion of the quiet part from “Clue” killed me! I loved it. The downside to their performance was that the backing vocals were way too loud. If you can’t hear Jonghyun over them, you know they need to be turned down. On a side note, I want Taemin’s gold jacket.

    I like Super Junior’s music for the most part, but I’m not a huge fan of their live performances because I’m always let down.  They had some cool theatrics (the Mr. Simple quick change was awesome), but the singing was lackluster (mostly just backing vocals, and when you could hear their voices, it was usually bad) and the dancing wasn’t sharp. There was an overhead shot of them when they were in the two lines during “Sexy, Free, and Single,” and they looked sloppy. If EXO can form straight, evenly spaced lines with 12 members who don’t dance together, SJ can do the same with 8 members.

    I only watched the beginning of the rap performance, but what I heard from Zico sounded amazing! He is above and beyond 99% of other idol rappers (as all of us already know).

    Big Bang was also good. Personally, I would’ve loved to hear GD perform “Crayon” as solo, but watching the guys run around the stage was entertaining. They looked like they were having a lot of fun. And OMG TOP. His eyes, his outfit, the cape, the riding crop, that hat. Crazier than GD’s hair (did he redye it during the show?).

    B.o.B was good. It’s a shame that Seo Inyoung’s Engrish was prevalent. I’m not trying to be insensitive, but I laughed every time I heard “airpranes.” Also a shame that most of the audience probably couldn’t understand B.o.B’s rapping.

    Gangnam Style went exactly as I expected it to. No surprises there, only the unfortunate appearance of Hyuna. It’s nice to see the other idols also having fun during the performance, too.

    My biggest complaint during the show was the terrible camerawork. Half the time the camera wasn’t focused on the person actually singing, was too far away to watch the best dance moves (I didn’t even get to see Minho jumping over Key in “Sherlock”), or was at ground level and was constantly blocked by balloons and stupid posters. There were times when I couldn’t see half of SJ because people had their posters up.

    As usual, I’ve turned my comment into a novel. *le sigh*

  • ErinMHz

    Before I get into my too-long comment, who was missing from Super Junior? Only 8 members performed.

    I pretty much just skipped through all the awards and only watched the performances I wanted to see. First off, I like GD, but his a capella rap was not good, to say the least. I commend him for rapping in English, and I’m sure that was the main reason why it wasn’t good. He was probably thinking too much about what he had to say. There was no flow, too many pauses, and the lyrics made no sense at all. This was definitely a case of finding English words that rhymed and slapping them together for a rap.

    Gain was cool, but for some reason, I didn’t like it as much as I like the original song and video. Maybe it was because it was so overtly sexual, even more so than her other non-remixed live performances, and I’m just not used to seeing anything that overt from K-pop singers. I’m almost certain she lip-synched, though, which is disappointing. Out of her set with Sistar and Trouble Maker, though, she was definitely the best.

    Trouble Maker was by far the worst performance I watched. Even though I kind of enjoyed the song when I first heard it, I’ve never liked Hyuna, and that performance firmly cemented my belief that she is basically talentless. Why was she even given a mic? I couldn’t hear her most of the time, and when I could, which was mostly during her sing-talking/rapping/something verse after the first chorus, she sounded awful. Hyungseung’s singing was fine, but nothing extraordinary, and it looked like he was having mic problems. Hyungseung and Hyuna looked super awkward dancing together, though; there was no chemistry between them. The audience wasn’t engaged in their performance at all, which was obvious because they only started screaming when the camera showed other idols watching the performance (Shindong’s expression was priceless, and I’d love to know what Taemin and Jonghyun were talking about).

    This was the first MAMAs I’ve watched (I’m a new K-pop fan), so I was really surprised to see Adam Lambert. Is he popular in South Korea and the rest of Asia? Or he is just desperate for performances (I hope not). Either way, he sounded amazing, as always, but I didn’t like his facial hair. Also, I found it super interesting that he, as an openly gay man, was asked to perform. I wonder if that’s an aspect of his life the Koreans ignore or just pass it off as him being American.

    SHINee and EXO was my favorite performance. It’s fun to watch all of EXO perform together and fill the entire stage. I liked the combination of the K and M versions of Mama, but I feel like combining both groups and languages is not going to be viable in the long term. Obviously it’s not fair if only K wins an award and M doesn’t, but how much patience will the audience have if they have to watch all EXO awards performances in two different languages from two groups that rarely perform together? Plus, it’s not fair to the boys. They have to learn new choreography, and I’m sure that at least half of the boys’ singing parts were cut out entirely. 

    What was with the lip syncing, though?! They don’t sound bad live. Doesn’t SM trust them? (Obviously not.) 

    The time loop was cool. The “Warrior’s Descendant” and “Mirotic” were nice tributes, and of course once “Lucifer” started, everyone knew what was going to happen. Oh my god, 17 boys dancing to Lucifer!

    SHINee was amazing. They looked so confident, dare I say arrogant, during their dance, especially doing their “I’m so curious” jumping/strutting thing. The inclusion of the quiet part from “Clue” killed me! I loved it. The downside to their performance was that the backing vocals were way too loud. If you can’t hear Jonghyun over them, you know they need to be turned down. On a side note, I want Taemin’s gold jacket.

    I like Super Junior’s music for the most part, but I’m not a huge fan of their live performances because I’m always let down.  They had some cool theatrics (the Mr. Simple quick change was awesome), but the singing was lackluster (mostly just backing vocals, and when you could hear their voices, it was usually bad) and the dancing wasn’t sharp. There was an overhead shot of them when they were in the two lines during “Sexy, Free, and Single,” and they looked sloppy. If EXO can form straight, evenly spaced lines with 12 members who don’t dance together, SJ can do the same with 8 members.

    I only watched the beginning of the rap performance, but what I heard from Zico sounded amazing! He is above and beyond 99% of other idol rappers (as all of us already know).

    Big Bang was also good. Personally, I would’ve loved to hear GD perform “Crayon” as solo, but watching the guys run around the stage was entertaining. They looked like they were having a lot of fun. And OMG TOP. His eyes, his outfit, the cape, the riding crop, that hat. Crazier than GD’s hair (did he redye it during the show?).

    B.o.B was good. It’s a shame that Seo Inyoung’s Engrish was prevalent. I’m not trying to be insensitive, but I laughed every time I heard “airpranes.” Also a shame that most of the audience probably couldn’t understand B.o.B’s rapping.

    Gangnam Style went exactly as I expected it to. No surprises there, only the unfortunate appearance of Hyuna. It’s nice to see the other idols also having fun during the performance, too.

    My biggest complaint during the show was the terrible camerawork. Half the time the camera wasn’t focused on the person actually singing, was too far away to watch the best dance moves (I didn’t even get to see Minho jumping over Key in “Sherlock”), or was at ground level and was constantly blocked by balloons and stupid posters. There were times when I couldn’t see half of SJ because people had their posters up.

    As usual, I’ve turned my comment into a novel. *le sigh*

    • http://twitter.com/SrilathaR Srilatha Rajamani

      :-) Nice feedback though and a very interesting read. I did not see Troublemaker or Airplane. I saw a video of GD rapping in English in LA and thought that was way better. Camera work was unprofessional. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3A5VXTZXZOEH62VXL4FJ7AT7Q Xinran

      you should watch the entire hip hop stage; it’s one of the rare opportunities that u get to see authentic hip hop showcased on major events like this without it being swarmed by rapper-wannabes. Dynamic Duo (Gaeko slays as usual), double k and loco were all fantastic. That stage was just overflowing with raw talent, none of those overblown theatrics and frills, just solid rapping with great chemistry onstage. I wish Davichi’s mics were a bit louder though, cuz i couldn’t hear their voices that well amidst all the rapping. Since zico is the only idol rapper that can hold his own on a stage next to khiphop juggernauts like dynamic duo, I don’t mind his inclusion. i also appreciate the fact that he produced the track for the hip hop collab stage.

      • noiha

        that is the best stage of the night. strip the props, effects, backdancers, everything, you still got those mad rap skills and overflowing stage charisma. sadly, big bang and psy don’t live up to the hype that night.the whole stage seems cheesy to me. not that they’re bad, but you sure have seen better performances from them.

        • ErinMHz

          “Sadly, Big Bang and Psy don’t live up to the hype that night. The whole stage seems cheesy to me.” You said it, not me; I didn’t want VIPs attacking me!

          I kind of feel the same way. BB is very charismatic on stage, so I’m sure the audience enjoyed their crazy outfits and antics, but I wasn’t impressed with the singing and rapping over GD in “Crayon” (which is why I wanted to see him do that song as a solo).

          Performances from groups like SJ, SHINee, and EXO aren’t generally as lively as BB’s because they’re always dancing, but that’s not always a bad thing. Their performances are reliably good and more professional. No crazy outfits, rapping with voice changers and fake megaphones, or running into the audience to dance with other people from your music label. Plus, if my favorite group decided not to do the choreography with their song, I would feel a little cheated. There’s a reason SHINee won best dance for a male group, and if they didn’t dance to Sherlock, I would be disappointed.

          • noiha

            and you said this all lol. i like big bang a lot, even if i’m not exactly a fan, but idk what so special about this perf. everything is over the top imo, it rubbed me off the wrong way. i know they’re great performers but here they are overshadowed by all those props, neither their vocal or rap or stage presence able to conquer me, the only one i found enjoyable is taeyang. psy perf also looks creepy to me. i’ve watched that gangnam style perf in one local event, he’s drenched in sweat and the whole audiences are in frenzy. psy performance is all about energy, and it’s not presented here. this is pure hype. and epik high! lee hi is so ugh weird and her tone isn’t stable, and i’m going to rant my disappointment to epik high again so i’d better stop.

          • noiha

            and you said this all lol. i like big bang a lot, even if i’m not exactly a fan, but idk what so special about this perf. everything is over the top imo, it rubbed me off the wrong way. i know they’re great performers but here they are overshadowed by all those props, neither their vocal or rap or stage presence able to conquer me, the only one i found enjoyable is taeyang. psy perf also looks creepy to me. i’ve watched that gangnam style perf in one local event, he’s drenched in sweat and the whole audiences are in frenzy. psy performance is all about energy, and it’s not presented here. this is pure hype. and epik high! lee hi is so ugh weird and her tone isn’t stable, and i’m going to rant my disappointment to epik high again so i’d better stop.

          • noiha

            and you said this all lol. i like big bang a lot, even if i’m not exactly a fan, but idk what so special about this perf. everything is over the top imo, it rubbed me off the wrong way. i know they’re great performers but here they are overshadowed by all those props, neither their vocal or rap or stage presence able to conquer me, the only one i found enjoyable is taeyang. psy perf also looks creepy to me. i’ve watched that gangnam style perf in one local event, he’s drenched in sweat and the whole audiences are in frenzy. psy performance is all about energy, and it’s not presented here. this is pure hype. and epik high! lee hi is so ugh weird and her tone isn’t stable, and i’m going to rant my disappointment to epik high again so i’d better stop.

          • keziarhh

            But at least BB sang live, unlike *cough*

            How bad your voice will be if you try to sing live, screaming, and ad-lib?

      • ErinMHz

        Unfortunately, I don’t enjoy much rap that much, which is why I didn’t watch the whole performance. The problem with rap music is that it’s all about the lyrics, and when I can’t understand anything they’re saying since I don’t know their language, it’s hard to enjoy the performance.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQ53WK5K4DPXQ5DIBKDELB6WPE Camille

      Siwon wasn’t present. That’s makes 8 because if counting from 13, Kibum, Hangeng, Heechul, and Leeteuk are not around, so that makes 9 currently active members. Minus Siwon who’s filming his awesome (it really is) drama right now, that makes 8 Super Junior members who were in the MAMA.

      • ErinMHz

        Thanks! I guess I could have rewatched their performances more closely and figured it out since Siwon’s so identifiable. I probably thought I saw him at some point, so I didn’t think it was him.

      • ErinMHz

        Thanks! I guess I could have rewatched their performances more closely and figured it out since Siwon’s so identifiable. I probably thought I saw him at some point, so I didn’t think it was him.

  • k_db

    The awards handed out were expected.

    At any awards show (except the KMAs, which are the only legitimate award show imo), the awards will be semi-evenly distributed between the companies.  Not only that, since there honestly weren’t that many attendees, it pretty much came down to everyone got an award.

    They were not going to give Big Bang best Male group as well as Best Global Male Group. 

    They were not going to give one of the top 3 awards (Album of the Year) to someone who wasn’t there (Busker Busker).  That’s embarrassing, and they were not going to give Psy both Artist and Song of the Year.  So what we got was an even distribution to the biggest names at the award show.  

    GDA will not be legitimate until they remove that no show, no award policy.  Until then it’s still the “SM Sales Awards.”

    • Fei

      SM Sales Award – LOL This.

  • muggle87

    google is your friend. why don’t seoulbeats call her before they write their articles? this isn’t the first time a sb writer written an article without knowing the facts… and not the first time we the readers have complain about it. -_- (this like my third time mentioning it. why do i even bother at this point OTL)

    for example if u had call your best friend google, you would know that mnet pd choice award been around before. that it was awarded to top acts like s.e.s, yg etc. that wasn’t “created out of hot air” to award b.a.p.

    now that i got that off my chest, on to awards.

    my fav performances of the night are:

    big bang: to me, big bang really own that stage. it was so much fun and it really felt like i was almost there. i just jumping around singing along with them. the only complain i have is the camera work. it could have been so much better.

    shinee: this performance remind me why i love shinee. they were freaking amazing despite that their stage was simple, they still kill it with their amazing live singing and dancing. man i need a shinee comeback right now.

    psy: no matter how many times i see this performance, i still shout oppa gangman style every time. psy had the whole crowd singing and dancing the horse dance. it was freaking osm.

    epik high: their performance was freaking epic with the costumes of bad villains (homage to their song, villain?) the only thing i got to complain about is that mic problems esp during mithra parts. But other than that, this got to be my fav don’t hate me performance.

    • ErinMHz

      I disagree with you on your assessment of the Mnet PD’s choice award. Yes, it’s not a new award, but it’s only been given out in ’04, ’05, ’08, ’11, and ’12, which means that Mnet only gives it out when it wants to, which lends to the idea that they handpick who they want to give awards to each year. Futhermore, past winners are famous in their respective fields from what I’ve read, since I didn’t listen to Korean music 10 or more years ago, like SES and YB. So why was BAP, a rookie group who had a strong debut but has been around for less than a year, given this award? 

      The criteria for winning the Mnet PD’s choice award isn’t clear, which is why the author is questioning both the awards existence and why it was given to BAP. Do the Mnet producers give it to well-established groups that have been around for years? Obviously not. Does it go to a group that’s sold millions of records, has had songs chart at number 1, has X amount of singles/EPs/albums, has appeared on X number of Mnet shows, has gone to X amount of foreign countries? No.

      PD’s choice isn’t a straightfoward award like best male/female group, best male/female group dance, song/album/artist of the year.

      The fact is that the Mnet PD’s choice award is designed to be given to any group for any reason, which means that Mnet can pick any group they want, think of a reason to give them an award, and then call the award PD’s choice. According to a translation of what the MC said, the award was given to the rookie who, amongst the many rookies that debuted this year, has the biggest presence overseas and shows the most potential overseas (which is quite debatable). So it was essentially a handpicked award for BAP.

      Awards like this one are just one of the many reasons that many people question the legitimacy of the MAMAs. In fact, the MAMAs and its original variant, MKMF, has had a long history of only giving out certain awards certain years. This year, there was no best new female group award, and last year there was no best new male group award. There hasn’t been rock, ballad, or R&B awards given out in years. One trot award was given in 2009. The international artist award has always been given to American artists in past, mostly to those with no Korean connections, like NSYNC, Eminem, Linkin Park, the Pussycat Dolls. This year it was given to Psy. Does that mean the the international artist award is given to non-Korean artists or to an artist that does well internationally? Obviously Mnet can change their interpretation of international. And this should make you go WTF: Apparently only one pop award has ever been given out – in 2001, to Ricky Martin for “Livin’ la Vida Loca.” 

      These are only a few out of the many examples of the MAMAs choosing when they want to give out awards. In fact, there’s only been three awards given out at every MAMA, and they’re not the daesangs: best male and female solo, and best rap/hip-hop.

      The point I’m trying to get across is that the MAMAs lack legitimacy, and it’s erroneous to say that BAP wasn’t handpicked for the PD’s choice award just because that award has been given out for the past. It’s comparable to the coach’s award that some sports teams (like high school teams) give out at the end of their seasons: you weren’t MVP, rookie of the year, most improved, hardest worker, etc., but the coach thinks that you deserve an award, so they find a reason to give you one. That’s not to say that you or BAP don’t deserve that award for that reason, but it’s still just an award that can be given out for any reason. This year, the Mnet PDs decided to find a reason to give BAP an award that wasn’t voted on.

      • muggle87

        my only problem was that the author made it seem like the award was just created last minute to give to b.a.p. when in fact the award has been around before. 

        but since u decided to give me your opinion on this award, i will give you mine.

        first of all i am not mnet pd, so i don’t know why mnet pd only give out that award every once in a while… maybe they didn’t feel any artist was worth giving it to in those years. 

        second, i don’t see the point of having votes for this award considering its a special award that mnet pd gives. its in the name, its his choice to give. not the public.

        third, in every award show i ever seen, there is always a special award that wasn’t voted on and given out by the people who run the show. 

        for example, there is a grammy award called the grammy legend award. its an special award given to recording artist by the grammy award show. this award has been given out in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, and 2003.

        just cause the award isn’t given out every year doesn’t mean its award created out of hot air. these type of awards are special for a reason.

        its special cause its not award given to an artist cause of sales, popularity, or fan votes. its award given out by the people who run these award shows. 

        that grammy award was given out cause that recording artist in the eyes of the grammy award is a legend.

        that mama award was given out cause that recording artist in the eyes of the mnet pds is a rookie group that have the most overseas potential and potential to grow.

        its not some pity award just cause u or the public didn’t get to vote on it.

      • muggle87

        my only problem was that the author made it seem like the award was just created last minute to give to b.a.p. when in fact the award has been around before. 

        but since u decided to give me your opinion on this award, i will give you mine.

        first of all i am not mnet pd, so i don’t know why mnet pd only give out that award every once in a while… maybe they didn’t feel any artist was worth giving it to in those years. 

        second, i don’t see the point of having votes for this award considering its a special award that mnet pd gives. its in the name, its his choice to give. not the public.

        third, in every award show i ever seen, there is always a special award that wasn’t voted on and given out by the people who run the show. 

        for example, there is a grammy award called the grammy legend award. its an special award given to recording artist by the grammy award show. this award has been given out in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, and 2003.

        just cause the award isn’t given out every year doesn’t mean its award created out of hot air. these type of awards are special for a reason.

        its special cause its not award given to an artist cause of sales, popularity, or fan votes. its award given out by the people who run these award shows. 

        that grammy award was given out cause that recording artist in the eyes of the grammy award is a legend.

        that mama award was given out cause that recording artist in the eyes of the mnet pds is a rookie group that have the most overseas potential and potential to grow.

        its not some pity award just cause u or the public didn’t get to vote on it.

      • muggle87

        my only problem was that the author made it seem like the award was just created last minute to give to b.a.p. when in fact the award has been around before. 

        but since u decided to give me your opinion on this award, i will give you mine.

        first of all i am not mnet pd, so i don’t know why mnet pd only give out that award every once in a while… maybe they didn’t feel any artist was worth giving it to in those years. 

        second, i don’t see the point of having votes for this award considering its a special award that mnet pd gives. its in the name, its his choice to give. not the public.

        third, in every award show i ever seen, there is always a special award that wasn’t voted on and given out by the people who run the show. 

        for example, there is a grammy award called the grammy legend award. its an special award given to recording artist by the grammy award show. this award has been given out in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, and 2003.

        just cause the award isn’t given out every year doesn’t mean its award created out of hot air. these type of awards are special for a reason.

        its special cause its not award given to an artist cause of sales, popularity, or fan votes. its award given out by the people who run these award shows. 

        that grammy award was given out cause that recording artist in the eyes of the grammy award is a legend.

        that mama award was given out cause that recording artist in the eyes of the mnet pds is a rookie group that have the most overseas potential and potential to grow.

        its not some pity award just cause u or the public didn’t get to vote on it.

  • sansai9 san

    Fan: Oh? My idol group/artist didn’t win? THIS
    AWARD IS BULLCRAP!!

    Fan: Oh? My idol group/artist win award! THIS
    AWARD IS THE BEST.

    why do we have to talk so much about MAMA award/ year-end award? those are bullshit. don’t we have seoulbeats and its readers who are more objective, fair, and know-everything about korean music? lol

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kakadu-Kakaduson/100004743494148 Kakadu Kakaduson

      No it’s seoulbeats who think it is best and objective etc, and its readers who think they are best and objective etc lol Seoulbeats is just like any other kpop site.

  • jakemanroe

    As I see it, SM is one of the biggest losers in this year’s MAMA. They dropped the baton with their latest pet male group – EXO. Since TVXQ won Best New Male Artist Award in 2004, all of SM’s male groups have won it (SuJu in 2006 & SHINee in 2008). What did EXO win? New Asia Artist Award! Thus sharing the honor with such “notable” artists as Khalil Fong, i.Me & Aziatix. By all consideration, EXO-M (and not EXO as a whole) should be the one that is qualified for this award since it is supposed to be given to artists outside of Korea. It really makes me wonder why Exotics are so happy over their win. It would have been better if they had received PD’s Choice Award instead. It’s interesting that even with SM’s considerable clout they failed to get Best New Male Artist for their future flagship male group. Even if Busker Busker were not on the scene, it’s still far from certain that EXO would have won the award considering they lost in the Online Voting.

    Seriously time for SM to wake up & get their acts together because YG is already surpassing them as the top entertainment agency.

    • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

      I know right. It annoys me how people are going around bragging that EXO won ‘Best New Asian Artist’ like hell no. There’s no ‘best’ in the award name to brag about.

      SM have been producing too many shitty songs, shitty box MVs, shitty albums, and recently shitty drama (To the Beautiful You). They really need to step up their game.

      • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

        And the sad part is…they kind of have.

        I mean, this year was way better than last year. But they still fell short. :/

        • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

          Yeah, they ‘stepped up’ but they didn’t do it right.

          • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

            I think that their songs this year actually were better than 2011, and the MVs were a bit better, and I personally think even the dances (which SM isn’t weak in anyways) were better. It’s just wasn’t enough.

            They needed to change something when all they did was improve, imo.

          • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

            For SM to change something (whatever it is but I think it should be their standard quality)…. Small chance. It’s been years and they’re still recycling stuff over and over again.

          • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

            For SM to change something (whatever it is but I think it should be their standard quality)…. Small chance. It’s been years and they’re still recycling stuff over and over again.

          • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

            For SM to change something (whatever it is but I think it should be their standard quality)…. Small chance. It’s been years and they’re still recycling stuff over and over again.

        • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

          Yeah, they ‘stepped up’ but they didn’t do it right.

    • JammySmoochie

      I think that people overestimated EXO, and SM did too. I think the boys are talented but the level of talent shown by some rookie groups this year (Busker Busker and B.A.P) overshadowed EXO’s. They need to step it big time next year or the next promotional cycle. First thing to do: Sing live. And everything else will follow.

      Just my two cents.

    • JammySmoochie

      I think that people overestimated EXO, and SM did too. I think the boys are talented but the level of talent shown by some rookie groups this year (Busker Busker and B.A.P) overshadowed EXO’s. They need to step it big time next year or the next promotional cycle. First thing to do: Sing live. And everything else will follow.

      Just my two cents.

    • takasar1

      i agree with @JammySmoochie:disqus but i would also like to state that while i dont think exo can replicate suju’s success, i think that they are expected to follow them and become asia’s next boy group. SM doesn’t really care about how powerful they are in korea, as long as they maintain a huge following in mandarin speaking countries and have sales figures in the hundred’s of thousands, then they will naturally begin to win awards.

      with regards to the yg vs sm matchup, that everyone loves to talk about these days, it is far more complicated than “oh, yg have had a better year, they have overtaken sm!” SM is still currently no. 1 (IMO), they have a far far bigger market share in Japan, a market share in china and are overall, far more popular in asia. kpop’s success or influence in america cannot really be quantified like it can be in asia (almost everyone can, by now, acknowledge that psy’s success is his alone). YG, on the other hand, has far greater potential, or at least that’s what investors think (and i agree with them). can big bang cause a big ‘bang’ stateside? most probably not (especially not if they tout themselves as an authentic hip hop group), but the probability of them doing so is far greater than the probability of any other idol group doing so.

    • ErinMHz

      Let’s be honest: neither the Asia new artist award nor the PD’s choice award are important. It doesn’t really matter who won which award because both EXO and BAP lost the award they each wanted, best new male group.

      To say that YG is surpassing SM based on what you said in your preceding paragraph is faulty. EXO didn’t win best new male group, which provides evidence that YG is surpassing SM? In what, exactly? That’s a very broad statement and responses can be quite subjective.

      Korean awards shows seem pretty useless for determining which company is better. From what I’ve read, the MAMAs are usually dominated by YG, and some other awards show (GDA? I don’t remember the name) will be dominated by SM, which means EXO will probably have a better chance of winning other new male group awards later on.

  • MuhdAfiq

    This year’s Mama is definitely of the worst Mama *I think*. WTF were Mnet thinking by giving those random ass awards?! Best Line Awards for SuJu? Best New Asian Artist for EXO? I love EXO but it seems that these awards are given just to make everyone happy. I really wished Kara and f(x) would perform and make a remix from their song. *Like BEG and Kara* In the end, Big Bang definitely showed SuJu what’s a real performer is and I am a SM stan, but I think Big Bang should just take home Best Male Group Artist. Best Album, Best Song and just everything! Really wished SNSD, TVXQ, 2NE1 and B2ST would attend. That would make it more awesome!

    • http://twitter.com/yongguknim Cl.

       Best Line Award is damn unnecessary lol and the award EXO won, it’s just New Asian Artist. Not best.

  • marz22

    OMG I agree esp. the EXO part. If SM just make them sing live esp. in this awards ceremony then I would’ve proclaimed that the Shinee-Exo stage was the best performance as well as best performers. I mean, is SM even doubting Exo’s talents? They have strong singers, dancers, etc. yet they do not give them the chance to showcase their live abilities. I have to say the clock formation as well as the cover for H.O.T’s Warrior Descendants was freaking amazing!  And Shinee – wow is all I can say…best live performers in terms of singing-dancing combo. Taemin danced his f******g ass off! He is the best dancer of the night!YG stages were fun esp. Big Bang’s! And Gain’s performance was sexy to me esp. the slow drum beats in the beginning..I’m glad I’m the only one who got uncomfortable with Troublemaker bec. I don’t consider myself that uptight, but yeah too much crotch and butt touching going on.
    Hiphop stage was wow! I mean I dont follow these artists that much and I know that Gaeko has an awesome singing voice but I didnt know he could rap like that! That rap he did with no music left me stunned! I’m just bummed Taetiseo did not win an award sicne they were nominated in some categories :-(

  • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

    So many problems with SF&S winning Album of the Year. 

    That’s all.

  • noiha

    worst mnet awards. too flashy, too much props, too cheesy. best stage is zico-double k-dynamic duo-loco, others are passable. exo and shinee are good dancers but lipsync anyone? do sm have some grudges for this yg-fied award? lol. they’re embarassing to watch. suju is so so, their songs are horrible that’s why. epik high psy big bang are too… much. their perfs seem all over the place. tone down the hype a bit will you? either way, i’m disappointed with epik high this year, so this is probably just my own (ex)fan grumpiness. this is so not the epik high i know and i like, sure enough they’ll get new fans so i’ll just leave them at that. aaand audiences are mostly elf so the not as enthusiastic as expected response isn’t their fault.

    why even bother calling ths an asia award anyway?

    • sansai9 san

      I thought I was the only one who think so. I do agree with your opinion. personally, I like last year performances better (except snsd performence which was such a mess) the rest are awesome.
      overall this year MAMA is boring.

      • noiha

        yep.. i’m actually disappointed that big bang and psy aren’t that awesome. even last year 2ne1 is more fun and dynamic imo. suju is usually pretty fun to watch on stage despite their horrible song, but their perf here is tad boring. dissapointing. :/

      • noiha

        yep.. i’m actually disappointed that big bang and psy aren’t that awesome. even last year 2ne1 is more fun and dynamic imo. suju is usually pretty fun to watch on stage despite their horrible song, but their perf here is tad boring. dissapointing. :/

        • sansai9 san

          yes, even until now I still remember almost all MAMA 2011 performances. 2ne1 was memorable. Super Junior was entertaining. even though I felt Miss A’s perf. was lack of something, but they still amazed me with Jia+Fei solo dance. koda kumi was great, YB + Dynamic Duo + Simon D + RRM + DJ Friz – was awesome as the opening of MAMA, and so on. but this year MAMA’s performances are forgettable. I might remember some performances, but it’s more because I know them or may be it didn’t give good impression to me (GD’s speech in the beginning of MAMA was just wth?? He is Asian, but he was trying so hard to act like western? I better watch Asian who speaks Engrish, but act natural and trying to be themself.)
          some say that bigbang, psy, epik high was the best perf. but actually I didn’t enjoy it (I’m more interested in watching TOP more than the performance because he was SO HOT lol). I was disappointed with super junior performance as well. It was not as good as usual. u’r right, its probably because the song was horrible and I think the dance is too complicated for most of them (in my opinion, sfs (or may be spy too) will be better if it performed without dance. this song seems better with live band or might be with just a simple dance). at this moment, I think SJ funky is still the best genre to be performed by SJ.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YQ53WK5K4DPXQ5DIBKDELB6WPE Camille

      SHINee sang their part of the joint performance live, just with a loud backtrack during the chorus of “Sherlock.” Jonghyun was heaving and panting every time he wasn’t singing.

  • sansai9 san

    didn’t fans always say that they don’t want
    to take MAMA awards seriously? so why they keep bothering to comment
    about who is more deserved to win the award?
    anyway, lets not judge
    our idols based on how many awards
    they win,abt sales, or achievement, etc.  elf love sj’s songs, vip love bigbang’s songs, cassies love
    dbsk’s songs, and so forth. but you should know that for most people, music is not always about what about music critics say, how they made the music, how good the quality is, etc. because music is all about taste. so, lets just enjoy the music they make
    according to our own personal
    tastes.  who needs awards when the songs they made will last
    forever in our heart?

    • ErinMHz

      “Who needs awards when the songs they made will last forever in our heart?”

      Cheese factor x100 :)

  • moua23

    So why is it called Mnet Asian Music Awards when all of the categories don’t even include any others besides Korean? Just go back to MKMF, it makes more sense! I need to go watch the other’s performances. I will say, Gangnam Style is best live, I can watch it a billion times, the video is boring me out, but the live version is epic!

  • thedutchesse

    It still baffles me that they had Ailee present, a native English speaking vocal powerhouse, and then they chose to have Seo In Young sing Airplanes. What were they thinking?

  • http://twitter.com/stroplok stroplok

    i’m surprised you haven’t mentioned JYP – that takes the cake as most embarrassing moment of the night

  • feignedreality

    WTF moment: when Psy won an award for a category that wasn’t mentioned. The presenter just went straight to announcing him as the winner, hahaha…

    Performances worth watching/waiting for:
    1st Big Bang – to be honest I was so bored, that right from the start I was tempted to change channels. The thought of seeing BB perform again as a group on MAMA stage was the only thing that kept me going & I must say their performance was well worth the wait. And since MAMA gave away some weird awards anyway why the heck didn’t they give G-Dragon a special award for the fastest hair color change?!

    2nd Epik High – where else can we see the Joker, Two-Face & Bane all jamming together?

    3rd would be a tossed up between Psy, B.o.B & Adam Lambert – didn’t blow me away but didn’t bore me to tears either so it’s all good.

    • http://twitter.com/CLVan CLV

      Haha I loved that WTF moment too, PSY looked like he didn’t understand he got the award either, that presenter must have felt so awkward he wanted to get it done as fast as possible, forgetting to even mention the prize 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7MRYDXY5MJ6HSO2EAFQNQV73TM hazel

    MAMA’s are very well respected, why would anyone hold an awards show that isn’t credible? Some of u just wanna be hipsters. and look cool by going against the grain. MAMA’s this year were the greatest. it shows that unlike how people are saying that hallyu is done, when in actuality it might be losing steam in japan but gaining in other countries. which who needs japan anyways? dirty monkyrs. ;) thanks for the misleading article tho hopefully u write better ones in the future.

    • ErinMHz

      What.

      • TheJadeBullet

        It’s a troll. Don’t feed it.

  • Fatricia Fatlegs (Trish Okeke)

    YOU KNOW IT’S FAKE WHEN EVERYONE HAS AN AWARD AND ONE OF THEM IS CALLED GUARDIAN ANGEL AWARD.

    SUPER JUNIOR’S ALBUM EVEN WON AN AWARD LOL

  • Fatricia Fatlegs (Trish Okeke)

    YOU KNOW IT’S FAKE WHEN EVERYONE HAS AN AWARD AND ONE OF THEM IS CALLED GUARDIAN ANGEL AWARD.

    SUPER JUNIOR’S ALBUM EVEN WON AN AWARD LOL

  • Fatricia Fatlegs (Trish Okeke)

    YOU KNOW IT’S FAKE WHEN EVERYONE HAS AN AWARD AND ONE OF THEM IS CALLED GUARDIAN ANGEL AWARD.

    SUPER JUNIOR’S ALBUM EVEN WON AN AWARD LOL

  • Fatricia Fatlegs (Trish Okeke)

    YOU KNOW IT’S FAKE WHEN EVERYONE HAS AN AWARD AND ONE OF THEM IS CALLED GUARDIAN ANGEL AWARD.

    SUPER JUNIOR’S ALBUM EVEN WON AN AWARD LOL

    • dsherpa

      and don’t forget…. Best Line Award.. wt dafaq is that??? guardian Angel….LMAO

      BigBang was the saving grace of this lame ass award show..

  • ybkdik91

    Why is everyone so serious over the actual awards ?!!. Wasn’t it already discussed and known that it was dodgey ?!!. I don’t think there is any Korean Music Award show that you could actually say is legit [Which is quite sad to be honest.] – Only thing I watched was BIGBANG’s performance, couldn’t careless about anyone else *meh*. 

  • cecedee

    eh. why people have so much surprise (and hate) about the album of the year (and best male group)? and people said ELF are the most butthurt bunch of people. honestly, it’s clear even from last year that mama will divide the awards so that there will be no blood bath. and SJ’s album sells the most so it’s only logical that they give it to them. Big Bang’s Alive get better reviews, maybe, but I’m sure that will also be the judges’ input. I forgot the composition of the award but I’m sure physical sales is a major factor. But well, avoiding blood bath of fanwars is the main factor I think :P And uuhhh,bulk buys?idk if it’s only me,but I don’t even have the version A, I only buy the repackaged ones even since SJ’s 3rd album (did mama count the repackaged ones?). And the ELF clique I’m in mostly only have one album/once each version (because they want the photobook lol). The bulk buys are done to help overseas fans buy it. But uhhh maybe that’s just me and my twitter/tumblr/LJ clique..also, don’t even make me start on that LINE & Guardian Angel thingy lol.

    okay, moving on to the topic I actually care. The performances. Ugh. I’m even questioning myself why the heck I’m downloading the full MAMA 2012 show when there will be almost nothing to enjoy to (I’m considering to stop the downloading process now lol). I prefer Gain’s usual performance in music shows. I never liked Sistar’s Alone so I kinda hoped they perform Loving U instead. SHINee & EXO’s stage is nothing special except the fact that two of my favorite groups are performing in one stage, making it crowded (oh this is soooo reminding me of DBSK & SJ’s Show Me Your Love performance :D those are hell of a crowd in a stage keke) but there is no part of that performance that is popping out and got me squealing in delight.

    SJ’s stage is so-so. I prefer their performance on MAMA last year. The VCR is interesting and their entrances are always a joy to watch but my hype when watching it was still not even close to last year’s. And can somebody tell me is that Victoria who is ‘kissing’ Ryeowook? As for Big Bang, I never like Fantastic Baby and Crayon, so I kinda wish they will switch one of it with Blue and perform it like 2NE1 did last year..PSY worked up the audience but I grew bored of the song (and I never really like it either) so there was nothing surprising except the appearance of HyunA. I was torn between laughing and wanting to jam when Epik High was performing though..that is some serious wardrobe and make up work there 8D

    The camerawork is a mess, the sound system too. I mean, I get that sometimes they have to shoot the audience but at least get it right when they’re shooting the performers. It was like they can’t shoot in the middle, didn’t know whose turn to sing, when’s the choreo is better when it was seen in a whole, etc. Messy. just messy.

    I also don’t see squeal-worthy moments of idols from different groups (especially the male-female groups). I only squealed when Eunhyuk&Onew hugged when SHINee won and Donghae waving his hand and Baekhyun was half-bowing and smiling shyly (and at the end when Donghae looked vacant then realized that the camera was shooting him then he was smiling like an idiot). I kinda miss interactions like SJ&SNSD’s (mainly Eunhyuk and Sooyoung) last year :(

    Also,why didn’t IU attend it?she won something,right?not trying to fuel in a dying fire but I hope this is not because You-Know-Who attended it and they (or their agencies) don’t want any exposure of them in an event together..

  • http://twitter.com/oonaooa oona

    T.O.P. won the MAMAs 2012. He slayed all. All your arguments are invalid. Most charismatic Korean man ever. His face is bathed in the tears of angels. Asian sorcerers invoked the ancestral spirits to create a supernatural fangirl killing machine and unleash him upon the world. All hearts will belong to him. All.

  • http://twitter.com/oonaooa oona

    T.O.P. won the MAMAs 2012. He slayed all. All your arguments are invalid. Most charismatic Korean man ever. His face is bathed in the tears of angels. Asian sorcerers invoked the ancestral spirits to create a supernatural fangirl killing machine and unleash him upon the world. All hearts will belong to him. All.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

      Another TOP fan.lol.Seriously yeah he looked awesome.

  • happy_slip

    Surprisingly, I think I’m already totally indifferent with the actual awards. It’s M.net; they’ve always been on this “everyone should be happy” train so…yeah. I don’t care as much because I watch this award shows for the performances. However…can I just say that I’m so happy for Sistar? :D And KARA — okay, Japan definitely does not represent the world; but I’ve kinda been waiting for their massive Japanese success to be recognized this way in Korea one way or another haha. 

    I enjoyed a couple of stages, but I honestly think that the previous MAMA’s were better. It’s a shame actually, but if there were more time to prepare they could have done something better with their pretty good list of Korean acts this year. After watching all the performances, I started to realize how much I miss 2NE1. I would go crazy for another Lonely + IATB combo (with the audience singing along). Even miss A — I wish they attended; ugh they could have played around so much with Touch or even Independent Women Pt. III. 

    I wish f(x) also performed, makes me a bit sad that they didn’t because this year’s award show had very little performances from female acts. I liked BB’s stage, but I would have preferred if they didn’t do Crayon. They could have sung Bad Boy or Blue instead. 

  • http://changsta-files.tumblr.com/ Shabei

    Did no one else find Yoo Seung Joon’s appearance significant? The poor man almost cried….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

      I saw it.It’s kinda sad knowing he’s banned in Korea, he must’ve been overwhelmed. SJ looked so happy seeing him getting the crowd going.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/R5BKARJWK7NNOXYOIUSP76YJW4 Aj

    I love Big Bang’s Monster in me perf. but I wasnt blown away maybe because I was put off by the huge skull and TOP’s eyes. GD,TOP and Taeyang’s perfomance in 2010 is still my favorite. NO Siwon, maybe that’s why I think SJ’s perfomance seemed like something is missing but nonetheless I’m impressed with their Mr Simple perf. and how they enjoyed watching others performances. I was wishing for Shinhwa and TVXQ to appear in MAMA this year, too bad they werent there.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PXJOWIYC26MDT52XS4YICM3X4E chua

    HAHAHA…. Thanks! I went back to look at Troublemaker’s performance again just to look at the SM Towners’ reaction (or the lack of) after reading your comment. It’s really funny!! Why do Yesung, Victoria, Eunhyuk and Sungmin all look like they have been listening to some presidential debate? And Donghae was just looking happy ?innocently singing along with them ? LoL! and yes, ShinDong’s passionate ‘opinions’ to Ryeowook about the ‘presidential debate’??
    The camera works were really bad that night but this is probably the only redeeming part of the filming – the LoLs candid responses! :D

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PXJOWIYC26MDT52XS4YICM3X4E chua

    HAHAHA…. Thanks! I went back to look at Troublemaker’s performance again just to look at the SM Towners’ reaction (or the lack of) after reading your comment. It’s really funny!! Why do Yesung, Victoria, Eunhyuk and Sungmin all look like they have been listening to some presidential debate? And Donghae was just looking happy ?innocently singing along with them ? LoL! and yes, ShinDong’s passionate ‘opinions’ to Ryeowook about the ‘presidential debate’??
    The camera works were really bad that night but this is probably the only redeeming part of the filming – the LoLs candid responses! :D

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QWY3XABRR65SGRNPDABSYRUG3Q Jon

    The MAMAs are always a bit sketch… But actually, I feel like most of the awards were actually fair; the unfair ones you seemed to have hit on.

    Also, could someone direct me to the Reply 1997 parody? I’m curious, ahah.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QWY3XABRR65SGRNPDABSYRUG3Q Jon

    The MAMAs are always a bit sketch… But actually, I feel like most of the awards were actually fair; the unfair ones you seemed to have hit on.

    Also, could someone direct me to the Reply 1997 parody? I’m curious, ahah.

    • Gaya_SB

      It’s subbed too :)

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QWY3XABRR65SGRNPDABSYRUG3Q Jon

        Hahah, that was cute. Thanks for finding it for me!! :)

  • http://twitter.com/0115Shandil shandil

    don’t want to be mean but did you guys really like BB’s performance? it was BAD  ! 

  • ExoKpop

    i know this is an old topic but i just wanted to say that MAMA was boring. really boring. i almost fell alseep watching it (and it was like 3 in the morning, livestreaming). The only reason i kept up was to watch EXO, Shinee, super junior, and big bang. and why did they keep mentioning it’s an Asian Music Award when it’s really a Kpop music award.  not to mention oh so terrible camera work and rigged voting system. they gave out awards like candies. i think most kpop fans agree that MAMA was all talk and show but with no content and no prestige. And SM, why u keep making EXO lipsync?

  • ExoKpop

    i know this is an old topic but i just wanted to say that MAMA was boring. really boring. i almost fell alseep watching it (and it was like 3 in the morning, livestreaming). The only reason i kept up was to watch EXO, Shinee, super junior, and big bang. and why did they keep mentioning it’s an Asian Music Award when it’s really a Kpop music award.  not to mention oh so terrible camera work and rigged voting system. they gave out awards like candies. i think most kpop fans agree that MAMA was all talk and show but with no content and no prestige. And SM, why u keep making EXO lipsync?