• geojyo

    T-ara was debating to promote either Round and Round or Roly-Poly in Copacabana NOT Cry Cry…

    • syvellium

      Please correct me if I’m wrong (feel free to cite sources) but I’m pretty sure that — as the article correctly states — it was intended originally as a follow-up to Roly Poly, but they chose Cry Cry instead.

      • FreakyFlyBri

        You’re right. This all happened about a month or so after T-ara finished promotions for Roly-Poly and Roly-Poly In Copacabana, and about a month before T-ara was supposed to come back with the title track from Black Eyes. CCM was unsure whether or not the girls were going to go with the retro track as the title single (Round & Round) or the more current sounding song they had recorded (Cry Cry). Ultimately they went with Cry Cry, obviously…but it goes even further, as Cry Cry was only supposed to be a buzz single to help people get hyped for Lovey-Dovey, which the girls were going to properly promote. But Cry Cry ended up being a big hit so LD was put on the backburner until January. CCM has a bad habit of doing stuff like that.

  • Black_Plague

    Honestly, the MV looked pretty cheap and B-grade-ish. While Cry Cry does have its issue of line distribution, well, at least it didn’t sound terrible. This song fell flat on me and had the MV been longer, I might’ve dozed off half way through or just went to play some SC2. Agreed, it sounded like robots singing, much like a good portion of T-ara’s hit tracks so far.

    Although I’d also have to say that the girls’ exhaustion plays a role into this – considering Roly Poly promotions were going around at the time of the MV’s filming, it’s hard to expect them to pull off the acting very well (I’d even suspect the behind-the-scenes issue could have been just a ploy just so people wouldn’t suspect how slave-driven T-ara is). Not to mention they are one of the most notoriously overworked groups out there in Kpop after all.

    Though I’d argue Soyeon’s importance in T-ara’s very likely at risk, despite being the main vocal of the group. CCM obviously doesn’t a flying fuck about making use of T-ara’s raw talents very much to begin with so it makes Soyen’s position a bit pointless to some degree.

    Definitely agreed that the MV was a disappointment especially since it’s very likely the last one released as the group they are now (though 6-ara is what I consider it best). I swear, CCM needs its rights as an idol management agency stripped ASAP for its incompetence, lunacy and the monster in charge of it.

    • asianromance

      6-ara is also my favorite!

    • http://profiles.google.com/krstydlght kirsty delight

      I think B-grade is too kind.

      • Black_Plague

        Alright D-grade then.

  • YourYG Bias

    I feel so sad watching T-ara slave themselves away for a shitty remake and a cheap MV. God, why did they sign this stupid contract?!

    The MV quality is inexcusable. Couldn’t see crap in there, even during the closeups. I give props to T-ara for trying to salvage the MV by squeezing some aegyo out and hoping Hyomin’s magical sewing machine worked. I love Jiyeon’s shirt. 

    • angrybxtchtiki

      IMO,I think the allure of being stars was stronger so they signed the contract :/ (although they should of NOT).It’s only going to be a matter of time till one of these girls finally speaks up for her rights.

      • YourYG Bias

        Not soon enough. 

        I know this sounds too emotional but they’re being disrespected with the new member changes and shit about 9-ara. They’ve worked their butts, knees, ankles, wrists, and every other injury they ever got, off. Sticking an 18 year old nobody and a 14 year old pedobait in a group to get a free ride to popularity isn’t fair to the original T-ara. 

        They might as well stick those two with Gingivitis. Now THAT would be fair. 

        • Black_Plague

          It’s still debateful whether if the girls will speak out for their rights (that is, shooting a lawsuit) but I think it is highly possible – and the certainty of it has been on the increase steadily.

          The current members aren’t likely to tolerate that specimen’s BS any longer in the long run. I don’t expect them to pull off something soon but at the least, probably somewhere after promotions for their comeback finish. SuJu’s Hangeng held out for two years of being treated like dirt in the same level by SM – though he still managed to successfully give them a major F U in the face. I’ve little to no doubt that T-ara can pull it off as well.

          SM, despite being big and money-filled, has quite a record of not defending itself very well against lawsuits and the court and it’s hard to see how CCM would handle it any better.

          With the member additions (as well as comparing one of them to an SNSD member and 9-ara seems like a slap in the face to SNSD) and the hype about it, it also seems like SM and YG have taken notice of this as well – YG delayed 2NE1′s comeback to mid July, roughly the same time of T-ara’s comeback. SM very likely made fx’s comeback (assuming it boosts their popularity) go first to see how they’ll endure against T-ara’s comeback later on, and probably have GG return to Korea in autumn as a some sort of ‘ultimate killing blow’ – it did try it hastily with The Boys last year, after all. 

          Either way, it seems like CCM actually declared war on those two agencies.

          • angrybxtchtiki

            I absolutely agree! but you know CCM will threaten them with all the power in the world(allegedly the CEO even said himself that if any of the girls leave, they will be banned from the entertainment industry and then some..) to keep them locked down.

          • Black_Plague

            What he really said was that he’d kick them out if they opposed the member additions – which pretty much has little to no difference to being blacklisted though I highly doubt either of the Big 3 would really let it slide that easily.

            Considering T-ara’s popularity at current and how much cash they can rake in, if the group were to be blacklisted, it’s only likely other agencies would grab them as fast as possible behind the scenes – plus it’s not as if CCM can do much against say, SM, YG or even JYP except cry a big river about it and act like a butthurt ex-girlfriend like how SM is being towards JYJ.

            Either way, chances are T-ara’s days in CCM are numbered, optimistically speaking. Pessimistically, the T-ara people know today would become an entirely different group and probably lose a lot of fans along the way.

        • Black_Plague

          It’s still debateful whether if the girls will speak out for their rights (that is, shooting a lawsuit) but I think it is highly possible – and the certainty of it has been on the increase steadily.

          The current members aren’t likely to tolerate that specimen’s BS any longer in the long run. I don’t expect them to pull off something soon but at the least, probably somewhere after promotions for their comeback finish. SuJu’s Hangeng held out for two years of being treated like dirt in the same level by SM – though he still managed to successfully give them a major F U in the face. I’ve little to no doubt that T-ara can pull it off as well.

          SM, despite being big and money-filled, has quite a record of not defending itself very well against lawsuits and the court and it’s hard to see how CCM would handle it any better.

          With the member additions (as well as comparing one of them to an SNSD member and 9-ara seems like a slap in the face to SNSD) and the hype about it, it also seems like SM and YG have taken notice of this as well – YG delayed 2NE1′s comeback to mid July, roughly the same time of T-ara’s comeback. SM very likely made fx’s comeback (assuming it boosts their popularity) go first to see how they’ll endure against T-ara’s comeback later on, and probably have GG return to Korea in autumn as a some sort of ‘ultimate killing blow’ – it did try it hastily with The Boys last year, after all. 

          Either way, it seems like CCM actually declared war on those two agencies.

        • Black_Plague

          It’s still debateful whether if the girls will speak out for their rights (that is, shooting a lawsuit) but I think it is highly possible – and the certainty of it has been on the increase steadily.

          The current members aren’t likely to tolerate that specimen’s BS any longer in the long run. I don’t expect them to pull off something soon but at the least, probably somewhere after promotions for their comeback finish. SuJu’s Hangeng held out for two years of being treated like dirt in the same level by SM – though he still managed to successfully give them a major F U in the face. I’ve little to no doubt that T-ara can pull it off as well.

          SM, despite being big and money-filled, has quite a record of not defending itself very well against lawsuits and the court and it’s hard to see how CCM would handle it any better.

          With the member additions (as well as comparing one of them to an SNSD member and 9-ara seems like a slap in the face to SNSD) and the hype about it, it also seems like SM and YG have taken notice of this as well – YG delayed 2NE1′s comeback to mid July, roughly the same time of T-ara’s comeback. SM very likely made fx’s comeback (assuming it boosts their popularity) go first to see how they’ll endure against T-ara’s comeback later on, and probably have GG return to Korea in autumn as a some sort of ‘ultimate killing blow’ – it did try it hastily with The Boys last year, after all. 

          Either way, it seems like CCM actually declared war on those two agencies.

        • Black_Plague

          It’s still debateful whether if the girls will speak out for their rights (that is, shooting a lawsuit) but I think it is highly possible – and the certainty of it has been on the increase steadily.

          The current members aren’t likely to tolerate that specimen’s BS any longer in the long run. I don’t expect them to pull off something soon but at the least, probably somewhere after promotions for their comeback finish. SuJu’s Hangeng held out for two years of being treated like dirt in the same level by SM – though he still managed to successfully give them a major F U in the face. I’ve little to no doubt that T-ara can pull it off as well.

          SM, despite being big and money-filled, has quite a record of not defending itself very well against lawsuits and the court and it’s hard to see how CCM would handle it any better.

          With the member additions (as well as comparing one of them to an SNSD member and 9-ara seems like a slap in the face to SNSD) and the hype about it, it also seems like SM and YG have taken notice of this as well – YG delayed 2NE1′s comeback to mid July, roughly the same time of T-ara’s comeback. SM very likely made fx’s comeback (assuming it boosts their popularity) go first to see how they’ll endure against T-ara’s comeback later on, and probably have GG return to Korea in autumn as a some sort of ‘ultimate killing blow’ – it did try it hastily with The Boys last year, after all. 

          Either way, it seems like CCM actually declared war on those two agencies.

        • Black_Plague

          It’s still debateful whether if the girls will speak out for their rights (that is, shooting a lawsuit) but I think it is highly possible – and the certainty of it has been on the increase steadily.

          The current members aren’t likely to tolerate that specimen’s BS any longer in the long run. I don’t expect them to pull off something soon but at the least, probably somewhere after promotions for their comeback finish. SuJu’s Hangeng held out for two years of being treated like dirt in the same level by SM – though he still managed to successfully give them a major F U in the face. I’ve little to no doubt that T-ara can pull it off as well.

          SM, despite being big and money-filled, has quite a record of not defending itself very well against lawsuits and the court and it’s hard to see how CCM would handle it any better.

          With the member additions (as well as comparing one of them to an SNSD member and 9-ara seems like a slap in the face to SNSD) and the hype about it, it also seems like SM and YG have taken notice of this as well – YG delayed 2NE1′s comeback to mid July, roughly the same time of T-ara’s comeback. SM very likely made fx’s comeback (assuming it boosts their popularity) go first to see how they’ll endure against T-ara’s comeback later on, and probably have GG return to Korea in autumn as a some sort of ‘ultimate killing blow’ – it did try it hastily with The Boys last year, after all. 

          Either way, it seems like CCM actually declared war on those two agencies.

        • Black_Plague

          It’s still debateful whether if the girls will speak out for their rights (that is, shooting a lawsuit) but I think it is highly possible – and the certainty of it has been on the increase steadily.

          The current members aren’t likely to tolerate that specimen’s BS any longer in the long run. I don’t expect them to pull off something soon but at the least, probably somewhere after promotions for their comeback finish. SuJu’s Hangeng held out for two years of being treated like dirt in the same level by SM – though he still managed to successfully give them a major F U in the face. I’ve little to no doubt that T-ara can pull it off as well.

          SM, despite being big and money-filled, has quite a record of not defending itself very well against lawsuits and the court and it’s hard to see how CCM would handle it any better.

          With the member additions (as well as comparing one of them to an SNSD member and 9-ara seems like a slap in the face to SNSD) and the hype about it, it also seems like SM and YG have taken notice of this as well – YG delayed 2NE1′s comeback to mid July, roughly the same time of T-ara’s comeback. SM very likely made fx’s comeback (assuming it boosts their popularity) go first to see how they’ll endure against T-ara’s comeback later on, and probably have GG return to Korea in autumn as a some sort of ‘ultimate killing blow’ – it did try it hastily with The Boys last year, after all. 

          Either way, it seems like CCM actually declared war on those two agencies.

        • Black_Plague

          It’s still debateful whether if the girls will speak out for their rights (that is, shooting a lawsuit) but I think it is highly possible – and the certainty of it has been on the increase steadily.

          The current members aren’t likely to tolerate that specimen’s BS any longer in the long run. I don’t expect them to pull off something soon but at the least, probably somewhere after promotions for their comeback finish. SuJu’s Hangeng held out for two years of being treated like dirt in the same level by SM – though he still managed to successfully give them a major F U in the face. I’ve little to no doubt that T-ara can pull it off as well.

          SM, despite being big and money-filled, has quite a record of not defending itself very well against lawsuits and the court and it’s hard to see how CCM would handle it any better.

          With the member additions (as well as comparing one of them to an SNSD member and 9-ara seems like a slap in the face to SNSD) and the hype about it, it also seems like SM and YG have taken notice of this as well – YG delayed 2NE1′s comeback to mid July, roughly the same time of T-ara’s comeback. SM very likely made fx’s comeback (assuming it boosts their popularity) go first to see how they’ll endure against T-ara’s comeback later on, and probably have GG return to Korea in autumn as a some sort of ‘ultimate killing blow’ – it did try it hastily with The Boys last year, after all. 

          Either way, it seems like CCM actually declared war on those two agencies.

        • Black_Plague

          It’s still debateful whether if the girls will speak out for their rights (that is, shooting a lawsuit) but I think it is highly possible – and the certainty of it has been on the increase steadily.

          The current members aren’t likely to tolerate that specimen’s BS any longer in the long run. I don’t expect them to pull off something soon but at the least, probably somewhere after promotions for their comeback finish. SuJu’s Hangeng held out for two years of being treated like dirt in the same level by SM – though he still managed to successfully give them a major F U in the face. I’ve little to no doubt that T-ara can pull it off as well.

          SM, despite being big and money-filled, has quite a record of not defending itself very well against lawsuits and the court and it’s hard to see how CCM would handle it any better.

          With the member additions (as well as comparing one of them to an SNSD member and 9-ara seems like a slap in the face to SNSD) and the hype about it, it also seems like SM and YG have taken notice of this as well – YG delayed 2NE1′s comeback to mid July, roughly the same time of T-ara’s comeback. SM very likely made fx’s comeback (assuming it boosts their popularity) go first to see how they’ll endure against T-ara’s comeback later on, and probably have GG return to Korea in autumn as a some sort of ‘ultimate killing blow’ – it did try it hastily with The Boys last year, after all. 

          Either way, it seems like CCM actually declared war on those two agencies.

    • Black_Plague

      They probably didn’t expect themselves to be the most overworked idol group in Kpop to begin with – not many people really knew about their work conditions in the group’s early months either and it pretty much stayed like that until the Roly Poly conditions when it just started to gain some attention.

      Then of course, Eunjung’s leg injury during the LD promotions and Soyeon’s admittance in TV that the group had no damn vacation really sparked things up a bit.

      Come to think of it, Big Bang’s GD did quote that idols do tend to get more rebellious regarding their workload at roughly the 3rd year since debut – which is exactly what T-ara seems to be trying to do, though are being pressed down constantly by that dictator who treats them worse than dirt.  

      I swear, I’d actually rather see T-ara disband than stay in CCM any longer.

      • YourYG Bias

        With the impending member changes and all this crazy stuff surrounding T-ara, plus this slop they call a remake, I agree. I’ll miss the ditzy Queens but they’re better off without KKS. 

        • Black_Plague

          I think everyone in CCM’s roster would be better off without that slimeball really. If I was in T-ara’s position, I would have already lashed out at him violently or dropped dead from exhaustion long ago – and this is coming from a guy.

        • Black_Plague

          I think everyone in CCM’s roster would be better off without that slimeball really. If I was in T-ara’s position, I would have already lashed out at him violently or dropped dead from exhaustion long ago – and this is coming from a guy.

      • JjigaeLover

        I hope they do speak out for themselves…

  • happy_slip

    and people complain like mad whenever sme does their “boxed” mvs lol. /jk this set literally looked like it was shot inside a shoebox.

    they made a good choice by not promoting this the first time around imo. would have watered down roly poly if they did.

  • http://www.michelle-chin.com/ Michelle Chin

    The conveyance of the song was pretty poor to be honest. I agree with the author’s opinion that it lacked the charisma that it was suppose to have. Sigh. I guess their exhaustion, as opposed their lively characters, are being conveyed via thing song. 

  • asianromance

    I like the song, but am so glad that it didn’t get promoted over Cry Cry!  Two cutesy songs in a row would have soured me, even though I also enjoyed Roly Poly.  

    Hate the mv.  Even if they are cheapening out on the sets, film, and stuff (probably to pay for Gang Kiz failed debut), there is no rhyme or reason why it needs to be edited together in such an seizure-inducing way.  I bet the mv editor is someone who go the job because he/she is related to some bigwig in CCM.

  • FreakyFlyBri

    I’ll agree that the quality of the MV is pretty poor, and obviously CCM had enough common sense to realize that between this and Cry Cry the latter was the better choice. Still, I think it’s a fun little song for the fans to enjoy while they’re waiting for T-ara’s comeback…so I’m not judging it too harshly. I enjoyed their version and was happy that Boram was given a bit more screen time than usual.

  • severely

    I agree: I could tell the song was supposed to be fun and lighthearted, but the delivery (both vocally and with the MV) just sucks the fun right out of it.

  • onechibi

    thanks God, they chose Cry Cry..Cry Cry is perfection imo