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Was 2008 really that great?

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I’ll stick with you baby for a thousand years
Nothing’s gonna touch you in these golden years – David Bowie, “Golden Years”

Not only is “Golden Years” an excellent David Bowie song, but it’s also a phrase that’s been bandied about lately by K-pop fans. While reading comments about the end-of-the-year Gayos, I kept running across a specific sentiment echoed in a variety of venues: “This year was okay, but I miss 2008. That was truly the golden year of K-pop.”

To be honest, I first ventured into the world of K-pop at the end of 2008,so I was present for the culmination of the year as opposed to the buildup, so to speak. While that period in K-pop is certainly what caught my attention and that of many others, one must ask: Is this simply a case of revisionist history? This was before the fracture of DBSK and before the full-scale girl/guy group takeover. I can certainly sympathize with fans that long for that time period, but let’s take a quick look back at what 2008 garnered us:

  • DBSK’s last major promotion as a five-member group, with the oft-controversial song, “Mirotic
  • Big Bang’s solidified popularity with songs “Haru Haru” and “Sunset Glow”; Taeyang’s successful solo effort with “Look Only at Me
  • Wonder Girls arguably hitting their peak with the so-called ‘song of the year’, “Nobody
  • Rain and Lee Hyori’s active statuses as top idols with “Rainism” and “U-Go-Girl,” respectively
  • The debuts of Davichi, Navi, SHINee, 2PM, 2AM, U-Kiss and IU
  • The ‘idol phenomenon’ of 2008, with groups Big Bang, Wonder Girls, DBSK and SHINee emerging and dominating the Kpop scene

That last point (which foreshadows the early stages of idol group mania) notwithstanding, you could say 2008 was a simpler time, a more innocent time, a time when it was easier to remember the names of any given artist on Music Bank. However: was it better?

If you are a Cassiopean, perhaps, but I get a sense that in addition to this existing wistfulness, fans are also mourning that year as the end of K-pop being truly theirs. Eyes started to shift westward and global interests began to take root. As you may recall, the Wonder Girls were whisked to the States not long after their rousing success. K-pop was no longer the little secret of fervent online fans, and since then, it’s become hard to deny the growth of K-pop’s international fan base and world influence.

Even so, certain aspects of a musical artist or genre are lost to the sudden expanse of popularity — namely, the niche quality of the genre and the smaller fan communities that lend themselves to feelings of personal “ownership” of an “underground” movement.  But I would never trade that in for the potential outcome: a globally successful Asian pop artist.

Though Rain is currently on military leave and Hyori is M.I.A, both Big Bang and Wonder Girls have grown tremendously as artists since 2008, and all those ’08 rookies I named are now idol staples. Also, the insane moneymaking power of IU could be a precursor to a lessened emphasis on idol groups with a new generation of solo singers (some likely breaking off from their own groups, namely HyunA and CL). With the increased focus on reeling in Western fans and greater utilization by the Korean government to enhance tourism, the amplified visibility of K-pop makes certain that some things will never be the same.

I’ve always been a believer in leaving the past behind where it belongs. Besides, that doesn’t necessarily make the past insignificant; the watershed moments from former years were crucial in the growth of K-pop as a commodity. In other words, appreciate 2008 for what it was, and anticipate how 2012 will be.

Do any of you long-term fans feel partial to K-pop in 2008, or do you have no qualms about moving on? What about more recent fans – have you viewed any MVs or performances from that era, and if so, how do you think they match up now?

(My Daily)

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  • Meh

    2008′s MKMF and the Gayos were proof that it was one of the most, if not the most amazing Kpop year. Every show was exciting and fun to watch. Now..? Blah. 

  • thekors

    2008 was great by mere fact that SHINee debuted that year. 
    2PM/2AM were sort of introduced in 
    2007 so 
    2008 wasn’t so much a ‘revealing’ year for them.  But SHINee dropped their stuff out of nowhere and it was GOOD. Thought they would bring about a new wave of (better) K-Pop but everything sorta went downhill when they started churning out boy/girlbands one after another.

  • Beets

    YES A MILLION TIMES! 

    I miss Kpop back in the days. 
    When there was Wonderbang, when DBSK and Big Bang were like the top two epic boy bands. 
    I think back then, the fans were also more loyal. Like really loyal. If you’re a VIP, you stuck with VIP. A Cassie stick with Cassie. Nowadays, everyone is a fan of every idol out there so there isn’t… i don’t know… sort of like a hmm… how should i put it? Competitiveness? 
    Not saying that it’s bad but i think it was just somewhat different back then. 

    The atmosphere back then was different too. The groups interacted with the audiences and there were epic collaborations with each other. 
    In that year, SHINee with their Replay, it was better. 2PM with 10 points out of 10. 
    Songs back then were better. 
    At least it wasn’t recycled music like these days. 

    Not forgetting the variety shows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Sheeeeez, i still think shows like Xman with dangyunhaji, Manwon happiness, Family Outing and so on.. were definitely more fun. It was hilarious, interacting and we got to know more about the idols. 

    Aiiiish, i don’t think i need to say any more. I’m getting sadder thinking about all that. 

    • Anonymous


      I think back then, the fans were also more loyal. Like really loyal. If you’re a VIP, you stuck with VIP. A Cassie stick with Cassie. Nowadays, everyone is a fan of every idol out there so there isn’t… ”

      True. Those years kpop fans are very dedicated and until now they are still their fans,VIPs and Cassiopeia’s are the most loyal one, until now, they arent decreasing only adding new fans…  Esp Cassies, When they split some believe that fans split as well and take sides but i dont think that might, not even more when those 5 comeback after hiatus.

      But today? oh perfect example..EXO fanclub.. what the hell.. im not humiliating EXOs.. but aren’t fans too fast on building a fandom where their idols aren’t debuting yet? COz if i remember myself, It takes me too long to consider myself a part of a fandom and thats the time that im 100% sure to be loyal to them…

      Thats the difference. Nowadays, its so easy for kpop fans to shift to another bias and another group.

      • cutiepie88

        I know right when did EXO started getting those fans from O_o LOL! I mean don’t get wrong I want to see their debut and see what they have offer. But really the way some people act as if they already debut when all we seen are some pictures and a couple of teasers….?

        2008 was a really great year for Kpop there so much variety of different sounds to listen too. I mean how many group have made a debut in 2011 isn’t count more than 30 right? (correct me if I’m wrong) I mean that’s crazy even for Kpop! 

        I know this comparsion keeps coming up but really this is the best example I can think of look at the MKMF 08 so many different faces, great performances, awesome collaborations between artists, granted BB, DBSK, WG stole parts of the show XD it was still amazing the MAMA 11 had it moments but it didn’t give me that same energy.

        Thats not to say post 08 there hasn’t been anything good to come out of Kpop which is lie because I am glad Beast got a chance to shine in spotlight and really hope they continue. I mean come on IU is really growing into her own and there is alot more I could so I haven’t lost hope. Just please tone down groups making debut left and right please Kpop! XD

    • Guest

      yeah! during that time, i was amazed at cassies loyalty and devotedness in waiting dbsk for 1 year and 7 months for their comeback. i dont think any other group dissapearing in kscene for that long will still be remembered by fans. somehow they’ll be forgotten and replaced by other groups. but not dbsk. thanks to all cassies who stayed loyal to them until now, through thick and thin. im a cassie too (obviously lol) but things changed and i somehow chose side (jyj)

  • Anonymous

    no autotune and less backtrack live performances.. isn’t enough to consider 2008 as golden years???

    ow.. another one… 2008′s MKMF, GDA, and Gayos.. solid proof.

  • smilesandtoast

    2008 was amazing, it truly was. I watched an endless amount of videos related to that year and not only was the K-Pop scene great, but so were the promotions and television appearances that they all made. Whenever I think of SHINee’s debut days, I always think of summers in the city because that is when they outshined everyone and I watched so many of their shows! 

  • Anonymous

    yup, 2008 is one great year for Kpop (you forgot to mention Epik High in 2008 Hall of Fame), though it is a horrendous year for Kdrama. however, 2009 isn’t that bad too. the fact that it brought up the status of SNSD, KARA, IU, 2PM, 2AM, and BEG. plus, it also brought up fine debuts like 2NE1, T-Ara, Secret, 4minute, f(x), After School, B2ST, MBLAQ, etc. yeah Wonder Girls, Big Bang, DB5K are great, but i’m glad they went around somewhere and gave a chance to another idols to prove themselves. hardly any 2008 debuts make their way in that year, right? that’s said, 2008 is one epic year, and 2009 is one epic follow-up.

  • MsTurn21

    The MV might be better now – well, they get better technology…. The costume also kinda better… the dance too…

    However…

    The sound is completely different. Back then, it was somehow more original… They sounded more rich… each group had their own distinguished sound – now they all sounds the same…

    And if the product you’re selling is song, I have to say you HAVE to be able to sing while performing. NO EXCUSES.

    Big Bang, DBSK, WG, Rain, etc…. some of them may not be the best artist… but they are all amazing performer…. and I’m talking about stage charisma here…

    PS: For those who r new to kpop… If you think those recent groups sound good… Try watching DB5K concert video or MR removed video… You’ll see what I’m talking about… They never disappoint… You don’t need to defend themselves for not being able to sing…

  • Anonymous

    Definitely miss the Golden Days. And no, I don’t think it’s simply a case of selective memory – distance makes the heart grow fonder sort of thing. Kpop definitely WAS better before. It was a time when idols and fans were all a little more innocent, naive and uncomplicated. The sound was richer, more progressive and catchier. The idols still counted improvement and artistry as things to strive towards. The Big 3 management still had some semblance of sanity… the list goes on.

  • Carcaroth

    I get the feeling most of the 2008 remembrance is shared mostly by female fans? I am not saying it wasn’t a good year, but since 2009 changes happened that make you fell 2008 as a best year from that point of view.
    Starting from Wonder Girls’ “Nobody” in 2008 and continuing with SNSD’s “Gee” in 2009, hook songs appeared everywhere. But more important was the shift from boy groups and soloists to girls group. SNSD huge success, followed by Kara’s and BEG renaissance, different appeal with 2NE1 and 4Minute, starting of a huge girl group output, all this shifted attention from boys groups together with DBSK disbandment.
    Not only that but K-Pop stopped to be niche and got more widespread attention (so some fan-exclusivity was lost), YT contributing with this and so much more information available about K-Pop since then.
    About more “innocent” times before 2009, there was the time of “Black Ocean”, fanatic fans trying to kill one of DBSK, I even think the extremism is the same but now is internet-oriented.
    As for the best year only those following K-Pop for a long time can tell, I only have some knowledge since 2008 onwards and from this period I think the transition period was the best, not any particular year.

  • guest

    i’m a proud WONDERFUL..my WONDER GIRLS is part of the big 3 groups in 2008 which is the greatest year in history of k-pop…the only girl group!!

  • http://twitter.com/TalitaVianna Talita Vianna

    sorry, i will sound biased right now (cause i will), but what about SUPER JUNIOR, with Sorry Sorry in 2008 ? sorry sorry is one of the most famous song of kpop, and everyone that knows kpop know Sorry Sorry…

    even Gee (i hate SNSD, but it was a big hit..)

    • Pg13247

      Both Sorry Sorry and Gee were from 2009 not 2008 and they did become the biggest songs of that year.

    • Pg13247

      Both Sorry Sorry and Gee were from 2009 not 2008 and they did become the biggest songs of that year.

  • Aliaschantra

    I got into kpop on April2008, so yes I’m biased. Add to that my obsession with DBSK then you could say 2008 was it for me. The year of discovery would always leave a mark on any person I guess. 

  • Aliaschantra

    I got into kpop on April2008, so yes I’m biased. Add to that my obsession with DBSK then you could say 2008 was it for me. The year of discovery would always leave a mark on any person I guess. 

  • Rachel

    I’ve been listening to Kpop since 2006 and though 2006 and 2007 were also good years, I’d agree that 2008 was a good year for Kpop. Kpop still had a lot more…originality? to it. The last few years have been group after group debuting and it is getting tiring. I think that is why I’m not into it as much as I used to be. I still have groups that I am loyal to though.  2006 and 2007 were really good years for DBSK fans…REALLY great years. So for me, I cherish that time when I was almost obsessed with those 5 men and they (and Rain) are the reasons why I fell so hard for Kpop.  O Jung Ban Hap  and I’m Coming pulled me in ^_^

  • http://twitter.com/M_Wys Michaela Wylie

    2008 had more diverse music. And years before 2008 were still great, GREAT years for DBSK fans, so I think it really was a terrific year for Kpop. I’m probably a bit biased because DBSK and the Wondergirls are my favorite groups, but I think I also like 2008 because SNSD hadn’t completely taken over the Kpop scene yet….

  • Karolina Ignatavičiūtė

    Yes, 2008 was the best year for k-pop. I’ve become a k-pop fan only half a year ago and I lovex569854345678 Super Junior(Mr. Simple was the first kpop mv I’ve seen). However, when I saw Mirotic I understood why DB5K was and still is SO POPULAR. Effortless sexiness, magical vocals and can’t-take-my-eyes-off dancing or simply perfection <3