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G-Dragon is High, Jaejoong is Depressed, and Sungmin is Hungover

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Written by On October 5, 2011

Today has got to be the most scandalous day in all of K-pop (okay, not really).

Idols are humans, idols are susceptible to pressure, idols need an escape too. But sometimes I think we forget all this because of the pretty flawless image the industry likes to paint our idols with. We expect our idols to be happy, we expect them to be smiley and stick to their god-given concepts at all times. And it’s when stuff like this happens that we finally remember that idols need an escape too, that they need a way out and may just sometimes want to forget. So basically sometimes all it takes is for G-Dragon to smoke pot, Jaejoong to vent his angst on twitter (again), and Sungmin to get drunk, for us to remember idols are humans.

First up on the agenda. I think this song is rather appropriate to describe the situation at hand:

“High, high. I’m so high”

Yes. Yes you are, G-Dragon.

G-Dragon has been charged by the Seoul Police for smoking marijuana sometime during mid-May. G-Dragon first took a drug test in July, and  although the results initially came back negative, a hair test performed later on proved otherwise. G-Dragon also confessed to the crime himself, stating he had smoked the cigarette at a club in Japan during one of their concert tours:

The smell was somewhat different from that of a regular cigarette so I was slightly suspicious that it was marijuana, but it is true that I smoked it.

Although Seoul Police have simply given G-Dragon a warning, representatives from YG have stated that it is a ‘shock’ to them, and that an emergency meeting was held. It seems that YG has found it to be inevitable but to change and adjust their initial plans involving BIGBANG and GDTOP. Possibly giving time for G-Dragon to think things through- which frankly, I think is a great idea. Though there’s something off about him smoking it in May, being tested in July, and then being charged on October. That’s not exactly stellar reaction time from the police.

G-Dragon’s excuse does sound legitimate and it isn’t hard to believe, and I’m sure everybody makes mistakes. That being said, I know it’s common knowledge by now that G-Dragons all cool with smoking, but it does worry me that he’d be willing to smoke a suspicious substance given to him by an unknown at a club. The man is no stranger to controversy, and he himself admitted to what a hard time he went through during his ‘Heartbreaker’ piracy accusations. In the end, I just sincerely hope that G-Dragon’s actions were an honest mistake and that smoking marijuana isn’t a regular activity for him, or that he uses it as a means of escape. He’s still talented, he’s still a great rapper, and I hope that this is but a hiccup in his career.

But, I also find it concerning how some fans seem to jump to his defense going “Hey, it’s no big deal. It’s pot. Everyone has done it.” Because well, um, it is sort of a big deal. And taking such a blasé and dismissive tone towards something like drugs has got to be one of the most irresponsible responses I have ever seen. Even if G-Dragon took it by accident or without meaning to, it doesn’t make it ‘okay’. Drugs are drugs, people have died from drugs. And just because everyone has done it apparently, or because ‘it happens in USA everyday’, I don’t see how that suddenly makes it acceptable. I don’t mean to say this to degrade G-Dragon as a person, but it’s common knowledge that drugs can have a gigantic toll on your health. And I’m sorry if I’m coming off as a traditionalist, but drugs are not cool, they’re not ‘no big deal’, and no one should touch drugs no matter how tempting they might seem (and by drugs I mean smoking as well).

Now that I’ve gotten that Public Service Announcement out of the way, onto what’s second on our agenda. Jaejoong from JYJ has gotten some fans worried due to his sketchy behavior on ‘twitter’. Today Jaejoong deleted several of his tweets, and unfollowed everyone on his t-list sans his band members Junsu and Yoochun. I have a special spot for Jaejoong in my heart, so even without knowing about his history of just generally being a really depressing guy, I was one of those fans who became ridiculously (possibly irrationally) worried over Jaejoong’s behavior.

It doesn’t help that he followed everything up with a tweet like this:

translation: It's okay, it'll get better

Whatever it is, I really do hope it does get better. Hopefully it’s nothing too scandalous or news breaking, but nonetheless keep your chin up Jaejoong. You’ve broken my heart two days in a row now, quoting your interview with the press:

“The two friends frequently appear in our dreams. Not long ago, they appeared in the dreams of all three us on the same night. A lot of time has passed. The misunderstandings that formed because of the distance and the amount of the time we’ve spent apart are beginning to disappear. We just want to meet them, and talk to them.”

Seriously, DBSK has got to be the most emotionally turbulent fandom to ever get into.

Lastly, Super Junior‘s Sungmin was seen today morning (the morning after the KRY concert in Nanjing) so drunk/hungover that he needed people to drag him to the airport. Not going to lie, I was initially nerve-wracked since he’s at a tie for being my favourite in SJ. And he’s also probably a contestant to be the most emo in his band after Leeteuk.

Considering he seemed fine during the concert, all I can do is hope what he had was a ‘drink the night away in celebration of an awesome concert’ incident and not a ‘drink the night away because I’m an insecure wallflower’ one. It’s common knowledge idols seem to like getting drunk, judging from all the little anecdotes they like sharing on Strong Heart and the like (quoting Seungri: “When I’m drunk I think I’m Justin Timberlake”), but arriving at the airport hungover to the extent that you can’t walk is something I’m sure Sungmin will look back on and possibly never live down.

I think it’s best to say Sungmin should leave the intense alcohol consumption for the the more heavy drinkers in the band. For all we know KRYSD probably had a drinking game last night:

Yesung: Okay, one shot for every time Donghae inappropriately touches himself.
Sungmin: Wow, Ryeowook. Have you always had forty eyeballs? Everything is so colorful.
Donghae: How about, one shot for every variety show Leeteuk appears in.
Kyuhyun: Only? Me and my inner alcoholic finds that insulting. I say five shots!
Sungmin: Hey guys, I think Ryeowook grew another five arms. Can’t we do something less intense like ‘one shot for every drama Kibum appears in.’
Ryeowook: Oh, how about four shots for every time Siwon takes off his shirt.
Donghae: You know, I think I’m getting a bit woozy. I might even throw up.
Kyuhyun: What did you say? I can’t hear you over the sound of my manly man alcohol tolerance. I might as well be drinking bubble tea.
Donghae: Hey, is Sungmin dead?
Ryeowook: *pokes Sungmin’s carcass with his toe*
Yesung:  Oh, I have a good one! One shot for every member in our band.

Or something like that.

(StarIn, weibo)

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  • ohemgee

    OMG this ish is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yesung: Okay, one shot for every time Donghae inappropriately touches himself.Sungmin: Wow, Ryeowook. Have you always had forty eyeballs? Everything is so colorful.Donghae: How about, one shot for every variety show Leeteuk appears in.Kyuhyun: Only? Me and my inner alcoholic finds that insulting. I say five shots!Sungmin: Hey guys, I think Ryeowook grew another five arms. Can’t we do something less intense like ‘one shot for every drama Kibum appears in.’Ryeowook: Oh, how about four shots for every time Siwon takes off his shirt.Donghae: You know, I think I’m getting a bit woozy. I might even throw up.Kyuhyun: What did you say? I can’t hear you over the sound of my manly man alcohol tolerance. I might as well be drinking bubble tea.Donghae: Hey, is Sungmin dead?Ryeowook: *pokes Sungmin’s carcass with his toe*Yesung:  Oh, I have a good one! One shot for every member in our band.

    Seriously, that was BRILLIANT.

    All joking aside, depression and drug and alcohol use are not things to be taken lightly if any of our boys have serious problems…hope all is well in KPOPland. :l

  • anon

    I found you comments towards Marijuana rather judgmental and unfair. It is ok to “drink the night away in celebration” but its not ok to smoke pot. How many people has alcohol killed compare to pot? No its not a big deal not because everyone has done because its pot. I think if it was crack, cocaine, heroine or some other addictive drug then we should be worried.

    • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

      I don’t particularly find alcohol okay either. Which is why (along with various reasons) I never touch it, or even plan to touch it. But drinking is something of a socializing activity. And how many times have celebrities come out with stories about the crazy things they do when drunk?

      Well, that’s your opinion- and it makes sense, I see where you’re coming from. But to me marijuana isn’t something anyone should do at all (unless it’s medicinal). Why do you think the laws on drug dealers are so harsh, or why drug trafficking is slammed down upon to such an extent? Especially in Asian countries where, regardless of what we think, it is a pretty big deal.

      I mean, if everyone and their mum smoked pot in college, that’s their deal. But I’m not going to condone it or make it look like I think it’s okay because everyone else does it. Not because I’m judging people who do it- but because I think smoking pot is a ridiculously unhealthy and risky thing to do. And I wish people weren’t so ‘cool’ about it, because it’d be better for the world if it didn’t happen so often. And it wouldn’t happen as often if people didn’t see it as some kind of leisure.

      • aznboy

        My point was and is that pot isn’t particularly anything different than drinking, and my gripe with your article is that you seem to be putting in the same category of drugs like cocaine,meth and heroine.  Smoking pot like drinking is also something of a social activity. I have yet to smoke pot but my friends like to do from time to time in groups. Sure you get people who do it alone, you also get people who drink by themselves.

        Just because there is a law against something it doesn’t automatically mean it is inherently wrong. You have to analyze for what purpose does that law exist. For example there are still countries that consider homosexuality illegal. It hasn’t happened in Asia yet, but in U.S laws on marijuana have become more relaxed even to the point where the issue of legalizing it came to a vote in California. Why do I think this is the case in the U.S and not in Asia? Because I think pot is more commonly used in the U.S and people are coming to the realization that its relatively not that harmful.  So my question is why is smoking pot so ridiculously unhealthy and such a risky thing to do in comparison to alcohol? 

        I hope you know I am not some butthurt GD fan criticizing you and your article for judging my oppa.

        • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

          Well, I’m sorry if it seemed like I was putting it in the same group as meth, cocaine, LSD, or such. As I said before, it’s a lot easier to get high off marijuana than it is to get drunk of alcohol. And moderately taking marijuana frequently can cause quite a fair bit of risks; it’s a depressant after all. Slows down heart rate, slows down rational thinking. Not to mention long term you have psychosis, delusion, marijuana upsets the chemicals in your brain.

          It’s like smoking tobacco to be honest- everyone does it, it’s legal, but I don’t condone it at all. Even if people don’t die from it straight away or on one puff. Basically, I don’t think anything that can cause damage to your wellbeing should be taken lightly, you know what I mean? I’m not judging people who take marijuana, but I’m not going to be blasé about it if they do- mostly because there are health risks. Alcohol or marijuana, I’m not condoning either. And I didn’t mean to make one look better in light of the other in the article. I only mentioned it in GD’s bit because the amount of fans trying to dismiss GD’s actions as okay is kind of concerning. Compared to Sungmin’s who are freaking the shit out like he swallowed poison or something. Opposite reactions from different fan bases.

          And, yes, I know :)

      • Anonymous

        The treatment of drug dealers is harsh not just because of the drugs but how they go about dealing and trafficking and the violence. Honestly the only reason why pot is illegal is that unlike drinking, there is no full proof way to test people who have had it and when. Alcohol consumption can be tested easily and since there is only a certain amount of time it is in the bloodstream, you can make an accurate assessment as to when it was consumed. With pot, since it’s fat soluble, it can remain in the body long after it was consumed. I mean take GD for example, TWO MONTHS after he smoked, he could test positive for it. Frankly there has not been any scientific proof as to marijuana being that unhealthy or that risky to do, if anything, there has been quite a few medicinal uses for the drug (it reduces ocular pressure in glaucoma, increases appetite in cancer patients among other uses). While the two legal drugs, alcohol and tobacco, have been linked to liver cancer, lung cancer, cancer of th mouth (chewing tobacco), liver cirrosis, DUI related deaths, various other cancers due to 2nd hand smoking, and yet they are completely legal. On top of that alcohol and tobacco are much more addictive then the likes of pot, making it that much worst.

        I mean I don’t smoke nor do drugs other than the very rare drink at celebrations and dinners
        nor do I condone breaking the law but just thought I should throw out another opinion because like others have said, you seem to be putting pot in the same league as meth,cocaine, heroin, which it is far from. Honestly pot even thougnillegal very rarely harms anyone while alcohol and smoking are much more dangerous and usually hurt other people.

  • Showmesomepositivity

    ” Yesung: Oh, I have a good one! One shot for every member in our band.”

    Thank god Sungmin fainted by then. He would’ve died from alcohol.poisoning. xP

    The GD thing legitimately freaked me out. Not that it was extra scandalous, but how often does stuff like that come out in KPOP? Tbh, I find it suspicious that he took the drugs in may, but the results came back in October. Seems kind of ridiculous and like a bit if a ploy to be honest.

    And I hope JJ is okay ):

  • maldita

    NGL, I would loooooove to drink the night away with the Suju boys. Imagine all the weird ass things they’d say and do.

    With that said, if GD himself hadn’t said anything, the weed issue wouldn’t be the supposedly big deal that it is now, especially with a country like Korea so strict about drug use. What with all the consequences and repercussions of this issue, he’s damn lucky he just got away with a warning and didn’t get jail time or anything.

  • pammiej85

    Yep, Kpop is not all candy canes and rainbows. These idols are humans too.

  • aravisalice

    I think I’m missing something so if someone could fill me in I’d appreciate it: what prompted the police to drug test GD in the first place? Do the entertainment companies over there regularly have their idols tested or did GD do something that got him noticed by the authorities?

    • Showmesomepositivity

      I’ve been trying to figure that out as well, and I’ve looked around and no website says what promoted the test on GD. I’m presuming they crashed him at the club, but it still seems pretty shifty to me.

      • mmmeeeehhhhh

        I’m a Big Bang fan, but something about this whole matter seems definitely fishy and it keeps bugging me. I keep thinking how the police got wind of a very private incident that supposedly occurred in Japan unless someone privy to the information tipped them off. Either that or it didn’t really happen that way.

    • Kenley

      I’ve been thinking about that a lot too. From what I’ve read the police were suspicious of GD’s behavior and that’s why they tested him. Still it’s so vague as to why they thought GD was high or doing drugs. It must be that someone tipped them, if the agencies don’t regularly test their idols at least yearly. And if the charge happened in June or July why bring it up now?

      • shuten

        The matter was closed in June, actually. The chief prosecutor said he wasn’t formally charged for anything mainly because he didn’t know what he was taking.
        The news came out just now, because they were trying to hide/postpone this matter, but rumors didn’t let it happen. So they decided to announce it officially just now.

  • lol

    Did you miss the video of Sungmin playing with a decanter? It’s pretty much confirmed he was doing some heavy drinking…

    • Anonymous

      Sungmin is known to have an interest in wine – he reads books on wine, he likes experimenting with and tasting different wines, like you said he posted a video of himself decanting wine with Kyuhyun. He’s normally not a heavy drinker (he has a low tolerance) but drinks for the taste.

      I’m guessing in this instance he was just hung over from celebrating.

      • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

        Haha. I’m actually looking at some of the stalker-pics from the airport that morning. Kyuhyun looks pretty hungover as well, and Yesung looks like he had a bad morning. They need a new subgroup, SJ-Alcoholics Anonymous.

      • Guest

         or maybe he stumbled on a wine tasting event.

  • Oh Ji’s Ho

    Seriously, he smoked in May was tested once, but that wasn’t good enough so they did it again, but with hair, and now they are just getting around to charging him in October around the time of his ‘comeback’?  What? That is so oddly-timed.  I didn’t realize one could be charged with smoking pot, I thought one had to have it in their actual possession…..of course, I am as drug illiterate as a person can be and am going off what little I know (or don’t know) of US laws involving drugs.

    • Hyo

      Look up: JOO JI HOON. He wasn’t in possession of ecstasy and some other drug at the time he was arrested, but he confessed that he did take them. He was charged, put on probation, and is still blacklisted by Korean TV stations. 

      Some countries in Asia have very, very strict laws on drug use, possession, and trafficking. Some countries give out the death sentence for crimes related to drugs.

      I agree, though, that the timing of the case is really odd. If this were another case, gaps of 2-3 months in between investigation would have resulted in loss of DNA. I don’t know why the police didn’t charge G-Dragon then, and had to wait until October to release the ‘news’. Sounds fishy to me…

  • springheart

    I’m a bit skeptical about this whole GD smoking pot thing. I don’t know about the law in Korea but that’s just so random to test someone who smoked so little amount. How do they even know this in the first place? unless he went into the police station and tell them he smoked pot or one of his friend snitched on him? or maybe that random person in the club had bad intention to ruined his career? Anyway i hope he learned his lesson cuz drugs/alcohol is never a good thing. I love the last conversation between SUJU at the end, that was clever. :)

  • Gnattie

    BAHAHAHAHAHAA I’m sorry but this is too funny. People always place idols as above everyone and it’s hilarious to see that they’re not better than anyone. I’ve never been so delusional that I believed that Kpop stars didn’t drink or partake on drugs or have sex. Like, many Shawols proclaim that Taemin is sweet and innocent and basically a freakin’ unicorn. Taemin is the exact same age as me and I’ve never been able to see him as anything more than a regular teenage guy that probably looks up porn on the internet, plays Call of Duty, or does inappropriate things in his spare time. Like most teenage guys. And Kpop women, too. I’ve never considered SNSD to be “nine flawless angels,” as Sones love to refer to them as, eventhough I like them. I’ve always had a sneaking suspicion that some of them, not all, are b*tches behind the scenes and not as innocent as everyone thinks. Love them anyway, but still.

    That video was ridiculous. I kept getting distracted by their hair. I don’t think the rapping was bad, it was just awkward. Wannabe-gangstas. It looked like they just threw tourists in the video as extras, like they do in Bollywood movies.

    I don’t believe that saying, “Everyone does it!” makes doing drugs OK, even pot. I’m a senior in high school and I don’t drink or do any sort of drug, though most others I know do. Marijuana isn’t as bad as meth or heroine but smoking it doesn’t make you look cool, or smart, or attractive. At least it doesn’t to me. I’ve alway found drugs to be major turn-offs. I can’t believe there’s something like this in Kpop. It looks like they were trying to mimic American music in the worst way. Lame! Shame on you, G-Dragon. There’s probably millions of young people that look up to you and look at the example you’re setting. You shouldn’t glamorize drugs or getting laid. I don’t like it when my people do it, I don’t like it when anyone does it.

    Jaejoong did sort of strike me as an emo. Maybe because his appearance oddly reminds me of Final Fantasy heroes. I hope whatever’s getting him down goes away and he cheers up.

    SHAME ON SUNGMIN. Alright, everyone gets drunk, but not everyone is an idol that young people look up to. I’m a strong believer in personal responsibility but teenagers can be so stupid sometimes. Not only is it highly unprofessional for Sungmin to get drunk, but it allows people to do, “It’s OK that you’re drunk. Sungmin was!” Like that makes it OK. He must’ve gotten pretty plastered to not be able to stand. How often does he get drunk, I wonder? A lot of celebrities turn to alcohol to deal with stress. I hope Sungmin’s not one of them.

    • Jess

      I agree that ‘everyone does it’ is a bad excuse to let someone off the hook for smoking. But the fact is, pot is not physically addictive (unlike alcohol) and lacks many of the negative side affects of alcohol and harder drugs like cocaine etc – which is why I honestly don’t have a problem with him smoking it if he wants to. Additionally, GD smoking once in a club does not mean he’s ‘glamorizing’ it, nor is it setting a bad example for kids. I’m sure almost every idol goes out to clubs and gets smashed every once in a while, and there are several idols that probably go through multiple packs of cigarettes a day (including GD himself). I’d be more concerned about that setting a bad example then GD taking a hit of a relatively harmless drug.

      • Gnattie

        I really don’t care if someone smokes pot, pot is legalized, or anything. Most of my friends smoke marijuana and I don’t hold it against them. I’m just being extra hard on G-Dragon. I actually find alcohol much more destructive than pot. Still, I personally don’t find it appealing. Sorry if my opinion offended you, I’m just going by what I see and hear at school.

        • Jess

          I’m not offended at all, just offering my viewpoint for you to consider :) It’s good to have discussion.

  • renee

    I know this is a serious matter but for right now I can’t stop laughing! The things people are coming up with are priceless: G-Druggin, GD & POT,”I guess High High promotions started early in Japan”….BWAHAHAHA!
    But on a serious note: Say NO to drugs kids, Say NO to drugs!

    • http://twitter.com/flickaddi Felicia Addison

      tumblr yesterday was amazing and my dash was filled with GD jokes/reactions i felt bad that i laughed

      • Renee

        I saw this on someones page. LMAO So TRUE!

        I love the contrast between the VIPs reaction to GD’s actions
        KVIPS:

        InternationalVIPS:

        My reaction:

        Then I composed myself …then…
        GIFSoup

        • http://twitter.com/flickaddi Felicia Addison

          YES i saw that one I LOLed so hard

  • H Lee

    given the fact that issues like these tend to blow themselves out of proportion, I think the big bang members are on time-out for awhile unfortunately. 

    that aside, the drinking scenario was hilarious. xD

  • uhh

    omg hahahaha that drinking scene…><

    but I had a question if anyone could answer….cause I'm not a really a fan and I don't really follow BB's schedule or anything so:
    wasn't Daseung's car crisis also in May? and I know even though the members often do their own thing, the fact that while on one side a member was having guilt and court processes attacking him, while at the same time the other was off in japan (unintentionally) smoking weed….just how much support could Dae have gotten from his own leader?? OR maybe I'm just overthinking things….
    btw, fans are starting to bring Taeyang into the spotlight too for his tweet

    • http://twitter.com/ovenfreshhhhh ovenfreshhhhh ☆

      Daesung’s accident happened on May 31st, so it was before then.

      I think the weed thing happened right after their Love & Hope tour was finished. GD probably wanted to cut loose a little but ended up accepting a cigarette/blunt from the wrong person. :/

  • Esther Taylor

    Dang, he is DRUNK.ROFL, try not to drink so much again buddy. GD, interesting, poor Jaejoong. :(

  • Anonymous

    As someone mentioned before the attitude about marijuana in this post is rather naive, very judgmental and a bit childish. Alcohol has killed more people than weed has (liver/stomach cancers, drunk driving, accidents, crime, etc.), yet the video of drunken Sungmin is treated with some sore of indulgent fondness. I have a feeling it’s because drinking is legal, while smoking weed is not.

    True, you shouldn’t smoke weed. I don’t, but I know people who do and it just kind of makes you stupid. That and it stinks. Plus, the tar and the physical effects of smoking are horrible. However, this post is acting like GD got caught shooting heroin. Marijuana was made illegal (in the U.S. at least) in response to a fear of unrest and violence people thought drugs caused. A study in 1944 disproved that theory and the laws against the drug were debated for reconsideration, but nothing ever became of it. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113971561)

    Drug laws in the U.S. are kind of a joke. Weed (which is not considered a harmful/lethal drug by most current standards) is a Schedule I drug (that means is the most tightly controlled and restricted), while meth (largely considered one of the most destructive drugs in the world) is Schedule II (legal and allowed for restricted use). Medicinal marijuana is SLOWLY being allowed, but only in a few states. The whole thing’s ridic. (I refer to U.S. law cause it’s the only system I know; that said, Korea drinking cultural runs very hypocritical to its stance against weed. =/)

    • Gnattie

      I’ve never heard of meth being legal. I live in an area that has one of the highest drug rates in America and people are always being pulled out of school for being caught with meth, heroin, or pot. When someone’s caught with it, they’re penalized. Different states have different laws, though, so maybe your state is different.

      I think people should just legalize pot already. I don’t smoke pot or find it at attractive, but mostly everyone else I know smokes it. It’s not hard to get, if my friends constantly have some, and I think people just blow up a lot of smoke about it. I just find it silly because it’s not that hard to get and many people smoke pot.

      • Anonymous

        My bad. I meant to type “legally allowed for restricted use.” Meth is Schedule II, which means that it is allowed for very restricted use. Average people can’t just start using it, but I do think doctors can prescribe it for very specific use.

    • tiffany

      I think that drinking is more of a social and cultural thing, which is probably why it’s considered better than doing weed. Especially with Korea, drinking seems widespread; it’s famous for soju and in most dramas that I’ve watched, the main characters usually seem to drink and get drunk during celebrations or when they’re having a bad day. I have personally never been drunk, but most people have and it’s pretty unsurprising. The only thing wrong is that he actually got caught appearing drunk in public. By smoking weed, GD has actually broken a law, which I think also looks a lot worse, because he’s undermining the legal system isn’t he? Idols are role models, too, and I mean kids will probably see their parents drink are even be drunk, but I highly doubt their parents will be caught smoking weed. Since drinking is a social norm, there’s less stigma to it, but an idol doing weed just sends a bad message, especially since GD has so many fans. And while it’s true that alcohol can be dangerous, I think Sungmin usually just drinks some wine and isn’t wine in moderation supposed to be good for the heart? I can really not think of any benefits to using recreational weed, though, which is why I would consider it worse. 

      Yeah I’m sorry wrote a lot, and I will admit to being a huge biased Sungmin fan. I also think that he shouldn’t be drunk in public areas like airports. But at parties, drinking is generally totally normal and expected and all the other SuJu members were probably drinking too. They just have better tolerance, which is why I can sort of forgive Sungmin. I’m not really mad at GD either, I pretty much don’t care about him. And while it’s true that marijuana isn’t that bad, I just think that drugs shouldn’t be touched ever, and pot can be a gateway drug to much worse things and you’re still just hurting yourself.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with a lot of what you said about alcohol being more culturally accepted. That explains why everyone laughs at the idols drunken stories but are all in a tizzy over this.

        Weed does have some medicinal use (it eases some cancer symptoms, glaucoma, etc.) And considering how drunk Sungmin is in that video, I’m thinking he drunk more than “moderation.” =)

        • Showmesomepositivity

          But he doesn’t usually drink more than moderation. I don’t think it was a good thing for him to do, but it’s a one off, and it’s not like going over the limit once will kill him. Just like smoking marijuana once isn’t going to kill GD. 

          I think you’re hyping up alcohol’s effects a little too much in order to defend weed (that was probably worded weirdly). I agree that in large consumption, the effects of alcohol is incomparable to weed, but just taking a bit every now and then does nothing bad to your body. Considering Sungmin is living an okay life, and they were having a celebration, and he’s not a heavy drinker. The worst one night of heavy drinking can do to him is just get him really hungover- which is exactly what happened. That’s probably why OP fluffed over it a bit, because what’s done is done and in the end it wasn’t too big an impact. In GD’s case he broke the law, he took an unknown substance from a stranger, and he smokes frequently anyway, and because of him BIGBANG and GDTOP’s activities are being pushed back- plus marijuana is hardcore taboo in Asian countries. So in the end all Sungmin has is a bad hangover and embarrassment, and GD has a charge against him, has his promotions pushed back, and he’s not taking the news lightly either. 

          • eve

            I liked your comment :) not sure why some posters here are taking to hyping up alcohol’s effects in order to defend weed.. i mean, come on. it’s still a drug. it just comes off  – exactly as how the OP put it - as people having a blase attitude towards weed – just cause everyone does it in the USA, its ok. -.- it could be due cultural differences. here where i live (somewhere in asia), someone drinking alcohol in moderation isnt as bad as taking something like pot/marijuana on a casual basis. the OP wasnt even referring to consuming alcohol on a long term basis or getting smashed constantly and dying from alcohol poisoning. with that said, im all in agreement with Ree on her views on weed. liked your article :)

    • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

      Well, if marijuana is more slammed down again than pot, then I agree with you. That is stupid. But saying marijuana hardly has any health effects compared to alcohol is sort of a stretch. The amount of marijuana needed to be inhaled to go high is minuscule compared to the amount of alcohol needed to become drunk. The long term health of effects of marijuana compared to that of alcohol isn’t fantastic or anything. Drinking alcohol moderately long-term won’t produce the same symptoms of smoking marijuana moderately for long term. That being said- I do genuinely believe GD made a mistake, I just think coming up with excuses like such is sort of juvenile. And that being said GD is a smoker as well- and smoking is ridiculously unhealthy and I’m willing to duke it out with anyone who tries telling me smoking isn’t a big deal because everyone does it. I may not be a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it is a big deal for his health and well-being.

      Plus maybe it’s just how we’re raised? I’m not saying you were raised bad, but more like where we live. I live in an area where everyone has hard-ass Arab parents, hard-ass Asian parents, or hard-ass South-East Asian parents. So basically in my school and whatnot, hardly anyone touches drugs. And the ones that do are… well it isn’t pretty.

      And about my indulgent fondness for Sungmin. I’m not cool with him getting drunk either. But as someone said, Koreans seem to love their Soju, and they seem to love getting drunk too. As much as I love the boy, I’m not really favouring him for getting drunk- more like I find it ridiculously hilarious in a way. Plus, I trust that he doesn’t get trashed frequently, since its common knowledge he only really drinks for taste. But if he is drinking like a maniac alcoholic, fhen that’s not cool at all and I hope he doesn’t go down the path of Charlie Sheen or something.

      • aznboy

        What we are trying to argue here is that you have a double standard with alcohol and pot. While we understand you don’t like either substance we feel like you are unfairly judging pot and you are classifying in the same class of drugs that people die from using .

        Comparison #1 
        1) You don’t really like the fact that sungmin got sh*tfaced drunk but you find it hilarious in some way that that he did. 
        2) You are outraged that people aren’t outraged at the fact that GD was caught smoking weed. The fact that people aren’t flipping out seems to concern you.

        Comparison #2
        1)” Koreans seem to love their Soju, and they seem to love getting drunk too.”  While you don’t generally approve of it because its common in Korea its ok.
        2)”it happens in USA everyday” “I don’t see how that suddenly makes it acceptable”

        You can convince us and end this argument if you explain why pot use is so much more unhealthy and risky when compared with alcohol use.

        And why is where you were raised relevant in this discussion? 

        • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

          I’m not ‘outraged’ over the fact people aren’t ‘outraged’ over the fact GD was caught smoking weed. I found it hilarious at first- I still find it hilarious, I just didn’t like how people were going ‘it’s okay, it’s just weed’ in order to defend him. Even if I did think weed was okay, there’s still the fact GD broke a law. 

          And, I never approved of Sungmin getting drunk and stumbling around in the airport. But considering it looks like a one-off I didn’t blow it up. And then there’s the fact alcohol is still legal in Korea, where weed isn’t. And in both cases I said I hope it’s one-off and not a recurring thing.

          “ In the end, I just sincerely hope that G-Dragon’s actions were an honest mistake and that smoking marijuana isn’t a regular activity for him, or that he uses it as a means of escape. He’s still talented, he’s still a great rapper, and I hope that this is but a hiccup in his career.”

          “all I can do is hope what he had was a ‘drink the night away in celebration of an awesome concert’ incident and not a ‘drink the night away because I’m an insecure wallflower’ one. It’s common knowledge idols seem to like getting drunk, judging from all the little anecdotes they like sharing on Strong Heart and the like (quoting Seungri: “When I’m drunk I think I’m Justin Timberlake”), but arriving at the airport hungover to the extent that you can’t walk is something I’m sure Sungmin will look back on and possibly never live down.”

          I didn’t mean to directly compare the two substances in the article, but I was taking a different approach to both events because, G-Dragon broke a law, it’s breaking news, and I treated it like breaking news. With Sungmin, I admit it, I’m sorry I fluffed it over a bit. But I didn’t think it was necessary to talk about it in detail because well- no one cares what Sungmin does anyway?

          I didn’t mean to start an argument or anything, and I’m sorry if it’s coming off as such. And I brought up where I love because I was talking about how most people I know don’t do Pot, and when someone does it’s taboo. Which is where my POV comes from. 

          • aznboy

            I think its good to discuss things specially when people have a strong opinion on things. As long as its done in a civil way. 

            Maybe it was just me, but the way I read it it seemed like you were outraged.:
            “I also find it concerning how some fans seem to jump to his defense going “Hey, it’s no big deal. It’s pot. Everyone has done it.” Because well, um, it is sort of a big deal. And taking such a blasé and dismissive tone towards something like drugs has got to be one of the most irresponsible responses I have ever seen.”
            What confuses me then is that I don’t know if take more issue with the fact that he smoked weed or that the fact that he broke a law. If you take issue with the fact the smokes weed, then explain why to us why weed explain to us why weed is so unhealthy and risky. If you are taking more issue with the fact that he broke a law, then explain why breaking that law is so bad. You didn’t mean to compare the two substances in the article, and I understand the reason why you fluffed over Sungmin’s article. But through your article and comments its coming off across that although you do not condone either substance it is ok to drink (moderately) but it is not ok for people to smoke pot (moderately). Not that you really care to convince me or what I think but I ask again why is weed so unhealthy and risky.

            I asked why you brought that up because It came off across like “I don’t know about you but my parents taught me right me” Discussion serves to clarify misunderstanding. 

          • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

            Haha, it’s not just you it. Well, I honestly wasn’t outraged when I wrote that, more like I was just concerned. Especially when some of the VIPs saying so were what, no older than 14? 

            Well, I take issue with both. If somethings illegal, then it’s best not to touch it. If alcohol was illegal then it’d be best not to touch it. And the fact it is weed, and see, taking weed moderately clouds your judgement, makes you high, and god knows if you do get hooked you can go through withdrawal syndrome, come across other drugs, ect ect. With moderate alcohol consumption, it really doesn’t have any negative side effects. Drinking alcohol moderately won’t cloud your judgement to the same as getting high off a bit of marijuana will. So in that sense, it is better to take alcohol moderately than it is to take weed moderately. Plus weed is illegal so you shouldn’t be taking it anyway.

            Oh, well, sorry. That’s not why I brought it up. It was more like to explain why I don’t see pot as casually as everyone else does or why I seem to be coming off as ‘naive’. 

            And I’m all for discussion, we’re staying civil. So #wecool?

          • aznboy

            “Slows down heart rate, slows down rational thinking. Not to mention long term you have psychosis, delusion, marijuana upsets the chemicals in your brain. ”
            Aren’t these just short term side effects while you’re high from weed?

          • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

            Heart rate and rational thinking is. But psychosis isn’t. Not to mention there’s a whole other story of what would happen if someone became dependent…

      • Anonymous

        “But saying marijuana hardly has any health effects compared to alcohol is sort of a stretch.”

        No, it isn’t.

        Alcohol’s effect on developing brain vs. weed’s:
        http://www.physorg.com/news157280425.html

        Number of alcohol death’s vs. weed:
        http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/visualising-the-guardian-datablog/

        Both are bad, but alcohol is worse. (The only drug deadlier according to the death chart is heroin.) Alcohol is deadlier and more damaging than marijuana. Accept it. Just because one is legal and the other is not, doesn’t mean that one is safer.

        I grew up in a strict household, too. I don’t know how old you are, but I’m not in my parents’ house anymore. I have friends and know people who do engage in different recreational drug use. (I worked as a student counselor in college.) And trust me when I say I’d rather hang out with a pot head than a drunk. (We’ve all heard the term “angry drunk” but who’s ever heard of an angry pot head?)

        “more like I find it ridiculously hilarious in a way.”
        The weed thing is just as hilarious. (That and some fans’ complete overreaction.) But the thing is, you don’t think it is because of your feelings toward marijuana. That’s the only thing that I don’t agree with.

        • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

          I’m not saying one is better than the other. I agree that OD-ing on alcohol is definitely worse than weed. But comparing moderate (moderate being the emphasis) consumption of both, Weed would do worse to you than alcohol. You’re going to go high if you smoke weed, you aren’t going to necessarily become drunk if you drink some wine. 

          I’m not talking about using alcohol to smash yourself on a regular basis, I’m talking about alcohol consumption moderately. 

          Hey, I’m not denying that the weed thing isn’t hilarious- I’ve been making ‘High High’ references since yesterday. I just don’t think people should be so blasé about it like “whatever, it’s weed”. And the fact GD willingly took it from a stranger without knowing what is was for sure makes it even more concerning. And I definitely wasn’t trying to compare which is better, alcohol or marijuana in the article, like people seem to think I was doing. If it turns out that Sungmin is a angry drunk or a chronic alcoholic, heck stuff GD, I’m not going to be cool with it at all. As I said: 
          “all I can do is hope what he had was a ‘drink the night away in celebration of an awesome concert’ incident and not a ‘drink the night away because I’m an insecure wallflower’ one.” 

          And the same goes for GD. I hope it was a mistake and it’s not something he does on a regular basis.

          • Anonymous

            Last post I promise, because I’m sleepy and I don’t want to be that girl who won’t let things die.

            I agree that WTF, G-Dragon why are you smoking things strangers give you in a Japanese bar? Not much sense there. But smoking weed one time is about as dangerous as having one glass of wine. You don’t get drunk off one glass of wine, but you can get tipsy. Which is basically being high.

            And if you look at moderate, long-term consumption, alcohol is still the more dangerous option. I’ll give two reasons why:

            1. You can’t overdose on THC (the active ingredient in weed). There has never been a recorded instance of someone overdosing on THC, and even if you went out and smoked joint after joint after joint, I don’t think you could actually do it. Conversely, there are 50,000 cases of alcohol poisoning a year. A former classmate of my died of alcohol poisoning (it was a holiday; St. Patrick’s Day actually) and I’ve had to help many a student to the hospital because they drank too much. Alcohol can kill you after one night of over-consumption…like that night Sungmin enjoyed.

            2. If you look at long-term effects of marijuana, it mostly centers around memory/motivation, mood and personality changes. Alcohol, on the other hand, includes different types of cancers, kidney/liver failure and heart failure. That and alcohol is addictive; weed is not. When the alcoholism gets to a certain point, you HAVE to drink or, in a crazy twist of logic, the withdrawal will kill you! Alcoholics can die if they don’t drink. That can never happen with weed. Ever.

            Again, I wouldn’t recommend doing either; it’s just your attitude to the two that doesn’t make any sense. You sort of contradict yourself when you defend Korean drinking culture (“But as someone said, Koreans seem to love their Soju”), but are disgusted by how lax everyone seems to be about the weed thing (“because ‘it happens in USA everyday’, I don’t see how that suddenly makes it acceptable”).

            Okay, I’m done. Good night!

          • Wheres the party

            I think all 3 of you are taking things way too seriously, no offence. Some bits of this conversation seems to be turning a bit nasty and into an attack :/ I don’t get it, don’t all 3 of you agree alcohol and weed are both stupid things? Ree says weed is worse in moderate consumption (which I agree with), and you guys said alcohol is worse at its peak point (which I agree with). 

            I agree that it looks like she’s giving a double standard to alcohol and weed. But in the end it’s the same message: just don’t do it. 

            I think we all should chillax with a drink of Bubble Tea. 

          • http://colourmesplendid.wordpress.com Ree

            I know, but having moderate consumption of alcohol has little negative side-effects, and it’s arguably better to be a moderate drinker of alcohol than it is to be a casual taker of pot. Moderate alcohol doesn’t cloud your judgement, moderate marijuana gets you high, and clouds your judgement. If G-Dragon continued taking marijuana it’d be worse than him just moderately drinking. I’m not talking about OD-ing here.
            Sungmin didn’t OD, he just drank more than he could handle, and he has a low tolerance. Which I agree with you, it’s stupid, and idk if he got a little too excited, or a little too depressed, but from what I know he doesn’t smash himself silly on a regular basis. When I was talking about how marijuana is a big deal, I was talking about taking it on a casual basis. Not just taking it once and never touching it again. 

            And, um, I’m hardly ‘disgusted’ by it. It’s more like I’m concerned at how lax everyone is. And I’ll admit it, part of it is because it is illegal, and G-Dragon did break a law. And as long as it’s illegal he just shouldn’t do it. Once again; I never meant to put alcohol on a higher status than marijuana- but I think it came off that way because I fluffed Sungmin’s issue over. And the part of that is because Koreans talk about getting drunk so much it’s kine of like ‘meh’ now. Whereas, how often does a Korean idol get charged for smoking pot? It’s not something you hear. And I’ll give you this one; that yes, maybe if it did happen in Hollywood I would shrug it off as well. It’s more like, because of how highly this whole GD issue is being treated, I talked about it in a more logical tone. If Sungmin’s one broke into such a scandal I would have treated it the same way. Which, probably isn’t fair, I realise it now. But the articles already written and I can’t really edit it can I? 

            Good night :)

          • Alwaysh

            I’m iffy about your second point, my brother was an alcoholic and a pothead too. And the withdrawal effects he had from alcohol couldn’t even compare to how bad it was for pot. He went through intervention for alcohol, and eventually he sobered up. But for pot, even after he became clean he would shake, and he would fight in order to get marijuana. Not to mention he blew almost all of his money on buying marijuana from his friends at school. But everything else I completely agree with, I was less scared of him, and he was less trouble, when he was high than when he was drunk. And the risk of alcohol poisoning was higher than the risk of him dying because of pot. 

            I get why you fluffed over Sungmin’s article, because it wasn’t that much of a big deal. And I think that’s where the misunderstanding came from. And I get what you’re saying about moderate drinking vs moderate pot, especially since Sungmin is a light drinker on most cases and it’s not like he gets trashed every day, and on the other hand GD is a smoker which destroys your lungs no matter how people rationalise it. And I know what you’re trying to say with people dismissing pot as something ‘okay’. But, I only got this after you explained it. I think you should have maybe been less strong on your tone in the article, and maybe have talked about Sungmin’s issue in more detail. Because even though you’re not, it’s easy to take it as ignorance and bias. 

            I’m not trying to insult you Ree, or anything. I think you’re a good writer, and I love a lot of your past articles on music/industry (which I think you have a good understanding of)- and I think you’re one of my favourite music writers. But in cases like this, I think you just should have elaborated yourself more or have been more careful with words. 

  • JW

    Drug/drunk/depress is definitely not something “cool” or “regular” for most people.
    But I think what the fans mean by “g-dragon smoked pot, no big deal” is based on the western standrad of celebrities’ life. Things like that, unfortunately, happend literally every single month with hollywood hot shots whether musicians or actors. But in Korea, idols getting all that scandalous is very rare, and ironically, I feel good reading all these news because fans out there finally realized (hopefully) that idols ain’t all that. They get a littly woozy doozy going to clubs, they expressed their emotions to people besides themselves, and everyone moving forward.

    for many, this day is just so celebrating-worthy, cheers to the heartbroken fans!

  • asianromance

    The American part of me leans towards cutting GD some slack over the marijuana thing (it’s not like it’s super strong alcohol or crack cocaine), but I also know that Koreans take marijuana much more seriously, so he should have been careful.  I curious to know what marijuana smells like.  I’ve been through college and living in dorms, but I can’t ever tell if a funky smell is because of incense, strange cooking, or pot. 

    Poor Jaejoong! It’s really hard to make it when you’ve got SM seeing targets on your back and when there is a wall between you and 2 out of your 4 closest bandmates

    As for Sungmin being hungover- considering whenever I heard about a celeb and alcohol in the news, it’s getting in trouble for driving or getting into something stupid under the influence.  I’m just glad he made through the alcohol haze without hurting anything.  It might not even be alcohol.  He could be drunk on cough syrup.  You know whenever Koreans get really ill, they all seem to just dose up on an IV drip.  Maybe he thought drinking a whole bottle of cough medicine was okay. 

  • http://twitter.com/ovenfreshhhhh ovenfreshhhhh ☆

    Although a lot of people are calling “bullshit” with YGE actually being shocked by the whole incident, I think they were truly surprised. And royally pissed. I mean, GD&TOP was getting ready to kick off their Japanese promotions and then this news gets out, throwing everyone out of sync, etc. Considering that he’s GD and he was at a club, I’m gonna assume that he was drunk when he accepted that ciga-weed. A lot of people are like, “Uh, hello you can smell the difference.” No. Not in a club, you can’t. Sorry, but no matter how nice a club is, you can’t smell shit except for cologne/perfume and sweat—and maybe as the night progresses, vomit.

    I also think that the speed that the investigation progressed at was a little weird… Daesung’s incident was processed pretty quickly, considering it was much more serious. But this “investigation” took months to close.

    - – - 

    JYJ is just going through a lot of shit, especially where KBS is concerned. KBS seems to be tripping over themselves to cockblock/backstab JYJ for whatever (obvious) reasons. No one is surprised that Jaejoong is going through some kind of funk. I just hope he gets it together before JYJ’s Korean promotions start (or have they started already?).

    Slightly O/T: Does anyone else think that KBS cut a deal with SME for exclusive SNSD performances/appearances for their comeback? Is there any other reason why a huge Korean tv company isn’t even trying to hide their prejudice—because the pay off would be worth it?

    Just throwing that one out there.

  • meh

    It isn’t really confirmed that Sungmin was drunk right? It was based on fans’ rumours and their assumptions when they saw that the manager (or guards or whoever!) were helping him up. He has never been the heavy drinker in Suju, so if they were celebrating the night before, i would have thought he would be drunk even with half the content the rest of suju drinks. Well he could have been sick instead, thus needing the help from others. And i’d rather he be drunk than sick. 

    • Showmesomepositivity

      Apparantly the guards actually LOST Sungmin at first, and then found him again. And basically Sungmin was changing in the car, and when he came out he couldn’t walk. And a girl asked the guard what was up, and the guard said he drank too much last night. 

      • meh

        when i heard from a friend that sungmin was drunk at the airport, i thought OMG I HAVE TO SEE THE PICTURES :D. He’s the only reason im keeping up with suju, and i would love to see him loosen up sometimes. 

        its too bad if people thought he was unprofessional (well its not like he turned up to work drunk???) and i hope he wont be too hard on himself, but im happy to know he can have fun with his mates and just be himself! /crazy fan

  • http://twitter.com/PhanTheHotness Jenny

    being in the dbsk fandom really is emotional. because honestly speaking, they are all very talented and to see them break apart like that really hurts, esp when they were at the very top. the point where no other groups can even reach them and still can’t

    i’m still hoping they will get together

  • DAFUQ

    OK WAIT A MINUTE….. 

    So he smoked the weed and was charge ect ect… BUT!! He smoked it while IN JAPAN!! So technically doesn’t that mean he didn’t break any KOREAN law at all?? Sooooooo why the fuck is the Seoul police charging him when the ‘CRIME’ was done in another country?!?! Am I missing something here guys?? I don’t really know how Korean law works so any help would be much appreciated. 

    On Sungmin being drunk/hungover. I don’t care. He’s legal he probably was having fun with his fellow group mates (maybe too much fun lol) and paid for it the next morning. So what? I mean I know that alot of kpop fans are underage(but doesn’t mean that they haven’t drank/smoked before but for those who haven’t yet) but I’m 23 and I’ve had my fair share of being wasted outta my mind and having to be carried around and held down so that i wouldn’t wonder of to God knows where and having random conversation with ppl (lol aahh good times:):)) And to be totally honest those times are near the top of my “best/most fun times of my life” list. Now I’m not saying that the only way to have fun is to get wasted to the point where u can’t function, but once in a while you just wanna let loose and do something crazy with your friends, something outta your element. The dudes life is all work, he’s human just like the rest of us and wants to unwind and have fun, and if drinking the night away with his friends is what it takes then by all means Sungmin child go ahead.

    On Jeajoong. Poor guy:( JYJ just aren’t getting a break these days. Now I don’t really follow them other then the articles that keep popping up on here and other sites about how they keep getting cock blocked by ppl….ESPECIALLY KBS!!!! *angrily pulls hair* I mean WTF?!?!? KBS can you be on someone’s D*** so hard? How much is SM paying you? How bad are they blackmailing you? Ooooooo I can’t WAIT until you get yours!! How fucking low can you get KBS? You guys are mad pathetic, I mean you CLEARLY said in you’re own words that as soon as JYJ made their Korean comeback that you’d gladly have them on your show. And now that it’s happening your backing away from what you said. Ooooooo I hate ppl in power that jerk other ppl around. 

    Excuse this next sentence but it has just got to be said/typed but……..

    KBS GET OFF OF SME’S DICK AND GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS YOU LITTLE PUNK ASS BITCH!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Well other celeb gets charged for gambling outside Korea as well, so ya.. i guess it’s their law. The scandal is blew out of proportion though because even the police admit it’s likely a honest mistake and he was only given a warning.

      Sungmin, if a guy got drunk, it’s fine. but we all know fans tend to be overly worried for the idols. Besides, speculating is an inherent part of fans’ lives anyway.

      JYJ i think i wont touch on here. We all know they are in an ugly situation but all this bullying is getting on everyone nerve. 

      • guest

        is the law that if you’re a Korean citizen and you gamble outside Korea you’ll get charged? Is that right? Cause I’m quite I know plenty of Korean international students gambling quite frequently.

    • Anonymous

      Like you, I was mystified by the fact that the Korean police can charge G-Dragon for a crime he committed in Japan.  Since the details are still so fuzzy, it’s hard to nail down any sound observations.  What concerns me is how the Korean authorities managed to come up with a legit probable cause enabling them to carry out a search-and-seizure and compel him to take a urine drug test in June and a hair drug test in July for something he allegedly did at a Japanese club in May. I can’t see YG voluntarily consenting to this type of invasion of privacy unless the law enforcement somehow obtained enough evidence from Japan by one of its officers–scary  . If I were to hazard a guess based on my research thus far, I would say that G-Dragon is being prosecuted in Korea because the Korean authorities is applying the principles of extraterritorial jurisdiction, laws implemented by countries allowing their courts to prosecuted their nationals for crimes committed overseas. I know that the US has Status of Forces Agreements with many nations that gives it jurisdiction over its arm forces while other countries have done the same with war crimes and genocide. I think Korea might have negotiated an agreement with Japan for the rights to prosecute its citizens for certain crimes allegedly committed there once they return home. I am personally not against marijuana use, so this will not affect my respect for the guy’s talent. But I know how hard-ass they are about this in Korea, so I am just glad to hear that he just got a warning.

      As for JJ, I am not that worried about his most recent tweet.  The guy and his group mates have gone through a lot worse.  What does not kill you will make you stronger. They are actually doing really well and their plight have gotten more attention from the Korean and international Kpop media.  I am just glad that most Kpop fans no longer call us drama queens whenever we discuss/rant about JYJ’s difficulties.

      Sungmin is an adult and he was not working.

  • http://twitter.com/freahki camila villegas

    im worried about jaejoong

  • omo

    I feel bad for JYJ and I think GD will get thru this fine but I cannot stop lol-ing at your imaginary KRYSD scenario. These two lines were particularly golden:

    Sungmin: Hey guys, I think Ryeowook grew another five
    arms. Can’t we do something less intense like ‘one shot for every drama
    Kibum appears in.’

    Kyuhyun: What did you say? I can’t hear you over the sound of my manly man alcohol tolerance. I might as well be drinking bubble tea.

    Gold :)

  • http://twitter.com/jmaytan J-MayTan©

    AHHHAHAHA the last comvo between the members is hilarious!

  • http://twitter.com/MonicaDBSK Monica

    I’m worried about jaejoong.

  • Kpopboi

    I fucking love weed.

  • Mattiasnd_92

    Well, it’s a known fact that GD is a chain-smoking, heavy-drinking party animal, so no one is surprised. After all, it’s not like he has a squeaky-clean image to maintain, Jiyong and his bandmates have always been brutally honest about their lives – even though i refuse to believe that Taeyang is a virgin. I am as straight as an heterosexual twenty-something man can be, but if given the chance, i would fuck YB’s brains out.

    • Alwaysh

      Can I just ask- I hear it all the time. But is GD actually a chain smoker. I knew he smoked, but does he really do so that heavily?

      • Mattiasnd_92

        a fan who happened to meet him at a club said that he smelled of “perfume, alcohol and nicotine”, and just loves to smoke tobacco and drink soju at the same time. apparently, the “Heartbreaker” plagiarizing accusations left him devastated, and he has become extremely cold to everyone who did not support him during that time. from what that girl wrote, he does not even greet his fans anymore. i think that he began to see haters everywhere, and so he drowns his insecurity into alcohol, smoke, and women – she stated that he danced and flirted with multiple girls that night, while Seungri was watching him, laughing like a pothead. i would not be surprised if Jiyong’s actually a stoner, he seems to be taking that route. Big Bang’s next album, after what happened to him and Daesung, is going to be extremely angsty…

  • Mq

    I had a good laugh when i read, “G-Dragon’s excuse does sound legitimate and it isn’t hard to believe,…”

    We teach kids not to take candy from strangers, young adults not to leave their drinks open or accept drinks from other people at parties. So how does this seriously sound legitimate? Considering he’s an idol, I highly doubt his security people would allow him to accept a random cigarette from a stranger in a club.

    He’s a chain smoker… but can’t tell the difference between the smell of weed and regular cigarettes?! Really now.

  • Anonymous

    i just love the “convo” part of SJ! HAHAHAHA! =)))) 

    aww Kpop, I just hope you’re not going into the lifestyle of Hollywood stars there. Taking drugs, getting drunk, being depresses, being a homo/bi and all that stuffs. I just wish you can still be the Kpop that is unique from the very mainstreamed Hollywood.

    • Nugu

      You must be new. Yes, idols and stars in other places besides Hollywood do take drugs. Do you know where the Korean singer Taegoon (Jaejoong’s friend) is right now? In jail for being caught with Meth. Korea isn’t some innocent paradise and idols are simply imperfect human beings.

  • http://twitter.com/soojin08 Camille

    Jaejoong has all the reason to be depressed but, he also has the choice of cheering up.  

    I do notice his ‘emo-ness’, but I always notice him working hard in overcoming those things first.

  • arina

    hmm..my honest opinion.korean celebrities have it harder than any other celebrities in the world..the public (not to mention the netizen) are so critical n unforgiving

  • Anonymous

    “my manly man alcohol tolerance” and “Only? Me and my inner alcoholic finds that insulting. I say five shots!” lmfao.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=513439726 Sharon Overlord

    Looks like Im not the only one who is worried about Jaejoong. He was the first idol that I liked, so I like him a lot and I have followed him throught the years. Jaejoong is a very sensitive guy and I hope he can get through this.

    Plus about GD. He is one of my favorites too… I respect him a lot as an artist and he needs to pull his act together. Korea is not so forgiving. Pot is not seen as a big deal in North America bc a lot of pll do it. Not so in korea though. Im kinda glad though that GD is taking a break, but knowing him, he is workin on something. That guy is a workaholic and he needs to rest and take care of himself. Also pls stop smoking, that beautiful voice will be effected, and I plan on listening to him for a long time.

    and Sungmin, pll can get drunk sometimes.

  • Paola Munoz

    Buwahahaha…. the conversation between the suju members. “Can’t we do something less intense like ‘one shot for every drama Kibum appears in.”"

    On a more serious note, thank you for the comment ”I also find it concerning how some fans seem to jump to his defense going “Hey, it’s no big deal. It’s pot. Everyone has done it.’” It makes me sad seeing several people’s attitude is this. Drugs are drugs and they just mess up your life. And NO! not everyone is doing them! Smh… 

    As to Jae, he tweets make me just drop everything and fly to Korea and hug him to death. Junsu’s emo tweets are the ones that make me more worried (i am a junsu bias, major junsu love here) since he is such a happy virus. When he tweets, I want to drop everything and find whoever caused him pain and inflict greater pain upon them! But Jae *sigh* 

  • http://twitter.com/justJeime J’aime W.

    I’ve been worried about jae too…though I wouldn’t really call jae’s tweets “emo”. He just…can’t seem to catch a break. From the lawsuit to the tour-that-went-wrong due to visas in the US and their difficulty with the charity concert for japan, and Park Yong Ha’s suicide and of course the ban from music programs…he’s got a lot on his plate. *understatement of the year. I hope that things get better for him…a lot of people care about him and that he un-followed everyone on  twitter besides yoochun and junsu is concerning Q.Q I really admire how he seems to be trying to not be negative though…like the tweet in the article…to me, jae is my idol for more than “just” his talent, but also his strength. 
    I hope he knows that he has a lot of people who support him ^^ Hopefully things will start to look up soon~ aktf

  • Anonymous

    jaejoong should try and hide it, it’s just making him seem a little childish

  • Anonymous

    kke jaejoongie has always been an emo since old db5k day, so i never really surprised with his tweet. :)

  • http://twitter.com/ZennieVo Zennie Vo

    well JJ’s twitter account has been hi-jacked by some hackers, JJ was very mad about that and ha also post a warning tweet to that person, hope things will get better

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