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The End of an K-pop Era?

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You can’t define an era when you’re in it. People living during the Renaissance years didn’t wake up one morning and think, “Hey, I’m in the middle of the Renaissance!” Millions of kids around the globe donning their circular glasses and Gryffindor scarves and heading off to midnight book release parties never intended to be dubbed “the Potter generation.” And likewise, for a while, I never considered myself to be witnessing an era in K-pop. But now that I feel a sense of things drawing to a close, I see it.

The first questions are likely to be, “What sort of era are you talking about here? How do you define an era? What is the time span?” When I’m talking about an era, here, I’m talking about a musical and stylistic era. Take, for example, old-school K-pop. You know what I’m referring to: Shinhwa, H.O.T, S.E.S, and the rest. It’s all dated by a very specific sound (and very specific hairstyles). All the groups involved kicked off and came to close around the same time period. Most of the members have moved on by now. Similarly, when I claim that there’s been an era of group coming to a close, I mean a very specific bunch: Super Junior, DBSK, the Wondergirls, etc. If I told you to think about K-pop circa, oh, 2008 or so, you’d know the general trends I’d be talking about. That was around the peak of the most recent idol wave. But that wave has long since crested, and those trends and idols that were involved are on the wane.

Oh, definitely, most of these groups are still up and running and fairly popular. But it’s as if the sand in their hourglasses has nearly trickled away; Super Junior members are one by one slinking away to do their mandatory military service, DBSK is split and diminished, and the the Wondergirls have been on the decline since their mild, short-lived US success. They’re all approaching their pop culture twilight years. Even the groups that were the in-between generation of that wave are showing signs of maturity. Think SHINee: they were the adorable little noona baiters of the idol world. Now there’s a surplus of groups young enough to call them “sunbae,” and bitty baby Taemin is legal. Even Rain’s time is running out, and BoA is a has-been. This aging process is inevitable. After all, pop groups all have a shelf life, especially withSouth Korea’s mandatory military service policy, and the general fixation on the ideal of youth. Still, it’s a sobering thought, to realize that you witnessed both the coming and the going of something of a musical movement. I imagine that’s what my parents feel, when thinking back on their flop-topped New Wave days.

So if this crop of groups is phasing out, who’s ascending to replace them? It’s a tricky question. Of the idol debuts in the last two years or so, which ones really rose to the level of the DBSKs and the SNSDs before them? Only 2NE1, and at a stretch, Miss A, come to mind. There’s really nothing that’s come that rivals the explosive popularity of the idols that came before. 2011 had no real “song of the summer,” with an accompanying instantly recognizable dance.  Nothing particularly iconic or trendsetting has been put out. Interest in traditional pop idols has been fading. Instead, the underground musicians and rock and hip-hop artists within the K-indie movement are gaining momentum, thanks to thriving new internet cultures and communities. In effect, the same shift that took place around the dawn of the internet era in the US is taking place in South Korea, just about a decade or two behind. This is both a good thing and a bad thing. It could put the Big Three entertainment companies and their cohorts out of business, just as the slow death of boy groups and girl groups stateside caused several major labels to slip and nearly lose their footing. But at the same time, it breeds artistic freedom, creativity, and most importantly, power to the people. There will come a time when success is no longer determined by how perfectly in-sync the dancing is, or how tiny the faces are. There will come a time when producers might actually let bands plug in their guitars for live performances on music shows. There may even come a time when, dare I say it, average looking people are the norm in the business.

Of course, that time is still a good ways off. There’s still a respectable number of people who tune into their weekly music shows to watch pubescent, overworked boys and girls do the song and dance routine (myself included). The fan cafés still have a vast number of junior high schoolers, sighing over the latest ulzzang promoted to idol group member. But still, I feel the winds changing. So I bid you, Super Junior, a premature but fond adieu. Although it’s early, I tip my hat to you, DBSK, and wish you boys well. And I anxiously await the next generation.

Do you think that an era of K-pop is coming to a close? What are your thoughts about the potential “new generation”?

(Star News, Daum)

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  • http://other-worldly.org Justine

    I don’t know if it’s the end of a K-pop era but one thing’s for sure, it’s very saturated right now.

  • maldita

    I always look at SHINee as the last of this generation you talked about. Seeing all these new groups popping up left, right, and center calling them sunbae just shows how fast a K-pop cycle is. Before, DBSK and Super Junior fanboyed H.O.T and Shinhwa and called them their inspirations any chance they got. Then the SHINee bbs called DBSK their inspiration. I will cry sad but proud noona tears the day some rookie group says SHINee is their inspiration.

    The idol scene is so saturated now, it’s hard to even stand out, even if from a Big Three company. DBSK was lucky they were the first ones to debut in the post-1st gen idol scene. SHINee was also lucky they were at the tail-end of it, because they grabbed on to fans before all these other groups started debuting every other week.

    • miss

      haha. Agreed! I said almost the same thing as you even before reading your comment.

    • Youhavewings

      Actually, DBSK weren’t the first post-1st gen idols to debut, they were just the first rookie idols to really succeed, and appeared right when SME’s hold on the market was faltering (which meant that SME put everything into promoting them). Shinee were lucky in terms of timing … but again, there were already a few rookie groups that had debuted at the time.

  • Chinamanshat

    Just a thought….

    It’s too focused on shiny cute packaging rather than a quality product. That is why I think the end is near for Kpop. It’s been overdone. *deng!*

  • miss

    Great article. I agree- the 2008 era has passed. It’s when I became a fan, and I feel weirdly nostalgic about it when I look back. It’s so weird to think of SHINee as ‘seasoned’- in my opinion, they’re one of the last iconic idol groups that debuted in that era. Current idol groups don’t seem to leave much of an impact. I can’t think of the last recent debut that really caused waves. Maybe Miss A? That’s not even that recent. I don’t follow kpop the way I used to, though…

  • kpopboi

    ‘Old School Kpop’ in Korea isn’t actually H.O.T’s era, perse.

    Here’s a Kpop history lesson 101:
    Old School/ Foundations of what is known as ‘Kpop’ (Korean pop music):
    - Early 1990′s – Seotaiji and Boys, Deux, Solid, Cho Young Pil etc.

    Rise of the Early Idol Concept:
    - Mid 1990′s – H.O.T. , S.E.S, Sech Skies, Baby V.O.X, NRG

    2nd Generation (rise of the Big 2 – JYP and SM):
    - Late 90s, early 00′s – Shinhwa, G.O.D, finKL, Chakra, Jewelry, Sugar. This period saw the rise of heaps of soloists that were just as prominent as the idols – Fly to the Sky, Wheesung, Park Ji Yoon, BoA etc.

    3rd Generation (rise of YG and the peak of diversity in the Market):
    - Mid 2000′s – 1TYM and YG Family, TVXQ, V.O.S, TRAX, Super Junior, SS501, SG Wannabe. Also considered the beginning of Hallyu. Also the consistent development of soloists i.e. se7en, Rain etc.

    4th Generation (Commercialisation of Idol Concept):
    - 2006 onwards – Big Bang, Wondergirls, KARA, SNSD, FT Island, Supernova, Battle. Small groups started to become the popular thing, rather than soloists i.e. SeeYa, Davichi, BEG etc. 

    5th Generation (Idol and Hallyu Dominance):
    - 2009 to present – A noticeable oversaturation of Idol groups. Began with girl groups, and now just as many boy groups. Possible entry point of the generation was the debut of 2NE1 or the rise of 2PM. Waaaay too many to name. More groups have debuted in 2011 alone than the whole of the 90′s decade combined. That says something.

    Furthermore, Kpop is now truly a Hallyu occurence but has not reached peak mainstream success. It is currently a strong niche market in dozens of countries internationally. Although it fails to even remotely be compared to the Jpop industry in terms of revenue, it has perhaps substantially more social recognition around the world. Hence it is more currently known as a phenomenon.

    There you go. I didn’t do much to write this. I actually did a short research paper on Kpop as part of my Market Segmentation finals. lol.

    • Lordofreimes

      I like your representation of the generations and I think is a more appropriate word than era in the article.
      An era consists of a general ideal which the whole period would share in common. What separates this post-2008 era would the ideals of a multi-skilled idol with cookie cutter personas that are replaceable without affecting group dynamics and popularity (ex-Wondergirls, Kara, AS, Girls Day, 2PM etc.) This idol model certainly has not come to an end and their popularity has not yet waned. The 4th Gen is being replaced by 5th gen but it may be a year or so more before the Idol ‘era’ is over.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FS52P3WGP37JJ6YJNRLPPBVS4E A

      Brilliant. The only thing I would argue about, from your group structure, is the placement of groups like SG Wannabe and FTTS (VOS etc). Though FTTS was forced to follow the same type of “idol concept” that SM was starting with it’s other groups, I think they were following more of the ballad trend than strictly trying for the idol concept….

      I’m really impressed that you included groups like NRG, Solid, and Battle. I think many people forget about their contributions to kpop and the worldly concept of Hallyu.
      Battle’s creation itself was trying to put to use the idea of public voting, idol image, and what the market wanted. Too bad it was a fail. I see their group as something akin to US’s attempt with O-Town.

      • Kpopboi

        @ A – Thanks. But I guess in regards to FFTS etc, I was listing the big kpop stars for each gen – regardless if they were idols or not. Ultimate point being the gradual transition of diversity to idol pop culture phenomena etc etc … 

    • Megan

      I stand corrected!

      Gread anaylsis.

      • Megan

        *Great analysis
        Bad idea to replay from an Iphone.

  • Youhavewings

    I’ve kind of been feeling that an era was ending for a while now – I grew up with groups like 1TYM, Shinhwa, FTTS, DBSK, SG Wannabe, Se7en, Paran, SS501, Wheesung, Rain, Jewelry etc. The diversity/number of groups, and more importantly, the ‘sound’ of k-pop has really changed since then.

    My favorite period was probably 2006-2007 with all the interesting girl group debuts (KARA debuted with such a different image! If only they’d kept Sunghee), the introduction of ‘different’ boy bands like Big Bang and FTI, and the continuing presence of the 2nd gen. acts. I think even the concept of ‘artist’ and the idol/artist divide has changed a lot since 2006. For a while there, I thought the popularity of groups like Big Bang, DBSK and FTI meant that Korea would succeed in turning the boyband stereotype on its head, but that hasn’t happened with the amazing number of formulaic group debuts that have debuted since 2008. Oh well, the presence of acts like CN Blue and 2am still gives me hope :D.

  • http://twitter.com/laneapplewhite aaron pugliese

    I’ve been listening since 2005 and have knowledge going back to the 90′s. Also I am prob twice the age of the typical SHINee or DBSK fan. The era now started in 2009 with 2ne1. It is a Hallyu era where the fan base and appeal is centered around what appeals to non-Asian fans. I think that’s why you will see all the mid-2000′s k-pop fans lamenting this new era. Because it is less about them and more about the mass (western or everything but Korea) appeal. The same thing happened in rap music in the 80s with the same complaints (Public Enemy destroyed Whodini’s career!!). The simple fact is the more groups that come out, the more fans you will bring into the system, and the more all encompassing product you will deliver.

  • pammiej85

    I don’t necessarily see as the end of an era but definitely the end to having dominating groups/idols. With so much saturation, there is no way to say for sure which group is on top because everyone has their little moments due to comebacks and good bye stages. However, that results in groups not being able to stand out and therefore secure their place in Kpop history. Don’t get me wrong, there will continue to be popular groups but probably not as big and memorable as their predecessors.

    • H Lee

      I agree that there might be an end to a kpop era coming to a close, but I think of it in terms of big name artists. I entered the kpop scene a bit late but I find myself almost only listening to older stuff like Shinhwa and Battle.

      If I may put this a bit harshly, I think this is the end of an era of great kpop, and the next era will be far less palatable. The one thing I disagree is that I’m not looking forward to it.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think they are over yet. TVXQ are still huge as a duo, and Wonder Girls will make a K-Pop comeback soon and I’m sure it will be super successful.

  • JamesH

    This article, on the whole, is great and fairly accurate. My only gripe is that you called the glorious BoA a has-been. By definition, a has-been is a person who once had success and now is past his or her prime and, to use another colloquial saying, “washed up”. By no means does BoA fit this definition. BoA is by no means too old for the Kpop industry. Sometimes people forget that she’s just in her mid twenties because of her longevity in the music business. She JUST had a #1 song and album last year with Hurricane Venus. Furthermore, once somebody becomes a living legend  and pioneer in any field, then it is inappropriate and disrespectful to refer to him her her as a “has-been” because the term’s cruel connotation.

    • Anonymous

      I think ‘has-been’ has the implication that they’re still trying to make it in the kpop world, but they’re too old and washed up to achieve it. I actually get the feeling that BoA has moved BEYOND the kpop world – she’s grateful for her fans but she’s not trying to become the next big thing in Korea. It didn’t look that much like she enjoyed her most recent promotions – I think she’s actually more comfortable with her artistic direction and working environment in Japan. She also had a blast filming her movie in the US that hasn’t been released yet. Do I think she belongs to one of the previous generations of idols? Yes. Do I believe she spends her time trying to hang on to and recreate her status from the past? No. Her life is much more interesting than that.

    • Ilovemandoo

      Agreed. BoA remains a queen in Kpop, and is by no means a has been. And this is just backed up by her strong album sales last year.

  • http://twitter.com/Chewywonbin Honey

    I believe there will definitely be a shift in the K-pop community.  As idols gets older so are fans. When fans gets into the real world and have a family of their own, their devotion to their idols no long become top notch.  What will happen as K-pop becomes more globalize? Who knows maybe …idols would become artist & have a longer lifespan.   

    It would be interesting to see what the new era would be?……but we are not there yet, because the top album sales of this year is still SUJU, TVXQ, JYJ (pre-orders kind of stun everybody)…..ect….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1356901062 Pantiwah OneZeroo

    i agree with most of what is said i havent been into kpop for even a year and i already notice.the vast difference in how kpop was in 2008 than it is now but although some groups seem like they won’t be able to stay together for another 3 yrs, the one group that just seems to get bigger is BIGBANG ill always support them because even after all this time, making solo albums and going their own ways, they come back as a group stronger than ever as for other groups,………unfortunately its not looking too good

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000324516434 Yessie Williz

    I would like to korea to go back to the music in the 90′s 
    Its was sooooo much better
    I usually listen to groups without all the popularity because they usually have the best music in this generation of music

  • seri-park

    “Instead, the underground musicians and rock and hip-hop artists within the K-indie movement are gaining momentum”

    Yeah!!!!  That would be awesome if your prediction were correct… down with hegemony of the Big Three (SM, YG, JYP)!!!

  • rilanna

    Yeah, I felt that at the end of 2008, there was a change in Korean’s music industry. The peak of the epic (Second) Hallyu Wave was reached near the end of 2008; it was an amazing year to watch. By mid-2009, I felt that the power of Hallyu music has weakened. There’s no one to really blame. People grow up, mature, move on. I saw the boyband era in America start and end, within 6 years, 7 is stretching it. The same will happen sooner or later to K-pop; granted it has lived longer but Asia and eastern perspectives differ from American and western perspectives. Japan is the home of thriving boyband culture; Korea picked it up and ran with it, in a way to globalize their nayion too. But boyband isn’t Korea’s own creation and therefore they must look elsewhere to the future for their originality.

    For certain, Korea’s “Big 3″–SM, YG, JYP–will try to drag out the ineviditable but it will end. No one can deem when the end will really come but be sure to have a back-up hobby/interest when it does, or you’re be truly devastated and what then?

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  • and then the crowd hates

    Sad but true. All good things have to come to an end eventually.

  • oh poo

    I definitely agree with you. It’s a little upsetting because some of the songs are pretty catchy and emulating their awesome dances is so much fun..however there has been a decline in popularity for k pop groups. especially after 나는 가수다 where singers who can actually sing (i know right?) became more famous like kim bum soo… also i really like korean indie bands ;)
    I’d say the most sad part of the future end of k pop would be not being able to connect and relate to others about this type of music. virtually all younger generations in korea know all the hit new songs, however, once k pop ends everyone will find his or her own preferences in music and not be able to expect others to know what type of artists they listen to..

  • Guest

    I agree but there’s a new wave coming (Teen Top, Boyfriend, and Infinite to name a few) this is happening in America too, indie music is definitely taking over. 

  • Guest

    The
    saturation of robot groups, the lowering of the general age of admittance [of performers] and the end of companies actually kind of caring about the quality
    of the product they are selling has lead (for me and in reality) to the declining
    potency of k-pop.

    I feel
    bad for westerners who are just getting into k-pop and don’t bother to catch up
    on the history of it. Maybe if they did, they’d realize they missed out on possibly
    the best k-pop had to offer.  I prefer a
    world where talent is appreciated and has longevity, over the pumping out of what
    is new, shiny and fetal.

    I feel
    bad for westerners who are just getting into k-pop and don’t bother to catch up
    on the history of it. Maybe if they did, they’d realize they missed out on possibly
    the best k-pop had to offer.  I prefer a
    world where talent is appreciated and has longevity, over the pumping out of what
    is new, shiny and fetal.

  • Painless J

    @maldita: There’s already a new group that calls BEAST their inspiration (N.Sonic, who named two groups they look up at: TVXQ! and BEAST) and countless new groups that debuted this year who bowed to 2PM, who themselves debuted just 3 years ago…

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  • http://escapists-chest.blogspot.com/ Sophia

    This article is fairly interesting to me since I haven’t been a K-Pop fan for that long, only about one and half year (if you don’t count that I knew BoA since 2008, that is).

    I myself find the idol group trend tiring by now, even though I cannot deny the potential of many singers and dancers that could possibly establish themselves if their groups dissolve.

    The electro movement that’s been going all over the world this past year also had a huge effect on K-Pop and not entirely in a good way. Electronic sounds offer a possibility for lip-synching, because it will never sound the same live as it did on the record, thus people with no actual talent for singing have an opportunity to gain fame as performers without being good singers.Things like that of course lead to an decrease in the Hallyu wave, because groups like that lack majorly in artistic quality. It takes more than good looks and shaking your booties to become famous and acknowledged all around the globe.
    I feel that K-Pop is losing it’s appeal to me as a whole, because only a few artist stand out and not all of them as a whole. (eg. Big Bang, 2NE1, JYJ, Block B)One of my biggest disappointments this year are SNSD and Super Junior.I love these groups, I really do. But their comebacks songs this year were crap in my opinion.How dare SM give Super Junior another “re-vamped Sorry Sorry” this year? Even their follow-up song “A-Cha” was better than the actual title track.SNSD’s “The Boys” lacks actual harmonies and thus becomes painful to listen to over a longer time period. Plus, when SNSD debuted they put on energetic 100% live performances (Into A New World). Now this energy seems to have faded due to their polished moves and their voices being drowned out by the background music. Same goes for Super Junior.

    I know this is more an essay than a comment, but it seems most K-Pop fans don’t seem to realize what is happening to this music culture that originally had so much appeal and potency. Whether you should call this “the end of an era” or not remains questionable, though.

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  • http://twitter.com/ErikinaDaisy Erika Ward

    This is a very interesting piece of writing. I read the article and I read all the comments and I have come to this conclusion: No one knows where the world of K-pop is headed. All I know is that for a while now K-pop has been on a steady incline, so it has to level out somewhere. Personally I think it would be awesome for K-pop to make it big in the Western part of the world, but that will inevitably take some time. I think the Korean music companies are trying to make it happen way too fast. 

    Also I think for K-Pop to succeed they have to re-define what kind of industry they are. Right now it is all about the youthful and energetic looks of the idols. This will take them no where. It is just creating a cycle of idol and fans who are popular for a certain amount of time but grow out of it when they reach their mid-20s. If they were to change the system to have idol who start at 20 but go on to prolong their careers until their 40s – it would open the industry so much. In north america right now, there are singers who are of all ages – some starting at 13 to others who are 38. If Korea focused more on music and quality of what they are putting out it would be better. 

    I also think that the saturation as many have called it is way too much. I have only known and been a fan of KPOP for 2 months – since Oct 2011 – and there are so many groups that my brain hurts – right when you like one group, another comes and takes its place. Again I think it is sad that a lot of these groups will have momentary fandom for their youthfulness that will dwindle down in about 5 years or so. This is why I believe (and I have discussed this with friends who agree) that groups like Big Bang and Super Junior are at a peak where they can change the industry. Big Bang is relatively young and very popular and I think they can continue to make music that will cut this “end of era nonsense”. I think it is definitely possible for them to continue on without being confined and restricted to a certain era. Super Junior I think plays into this too – they are the only group I know who have lost so many members but are still going on strong – I think that is what will promote them into the future. They will still be successful.

    Other than these two groups, I can’t see other groups staying on strong. I know that groups like Beast, SHINee, Infinite will probably have spurts of popularity, but I believe it will all die down with time. 

    Well, in conclusion the facts are that nothing does last forever. As I have only been a fan of KPOP for 2 months it is a sad thing. Especially since becoming a fan I have liked Super Junior the best only to find out members are leaving. But I have to see the good in it. Instead of worrying about who will be popular and what groups will disband and which groups will debut and who will be the best and who will leave and who will stay – BECAUSE I DONT KNOW THAT – so instead of worrying I think we should all just enjoy the groups at the moment and support the groups we want to support.

    One last though as an ELF – I dont care if kpop isn’t popular in the future and I dont care how many members Super Junior has or how old they are – I will always think of them as the best idols and they will always be #1 to me. :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4ZSUYNPUIRG7OCJAG3CTPDETM Bazinga

    I just got into Kpop in 2011 …. I don’t want it’s “Era” to be over already …. it’s cool that the K-indie scene would be able to flourish, breed “artistic freedom” and all but …. I got my own countries’ (UK) indie scene. Only Korea has Kpop. :’(

    I don’t care if the idols start to age … they still got a few more years left lol … the oldest member in SuJu is only like 28 yrs old. =/

  • http://twitter.com/cInDysujuDh CindErellA E.L.F :3

    THE LAST KPOP GREAT GROUP WAS SHINEE FROM THAT TO NOW THERE ARE TOO MANY GROUPS SO IS HARDER THAT ONE OF THEM TO BECOME A LEGEND LIKE DBSK SUPER JUNIOR BIG BANG SNSD… SO EVEN IF THEY ARE “OLD” GROUPS THEY WILL ALWAYS LEAD THE HALLYU WAVE!!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jexy-Everlasting-Fly/100001183349159 Jexy Everlasting Fly

    I’m agree with you, but the groups that you have defined ”
     the groups that were the in-between generation” are for me the thirth generation of kpop idol groups (1996-2003 1st generation/2003-2008 2nd generation/2008-2011-2012 3th generation, for me now we are imoving for the 3th to the 4th generation)…and yes now I’m more into the undergrounds musicians than idol groups

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